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The Great Crowd are NOT Jehovah Witnesses ?

by Nick! in

the great crowd are not jehovah's witnesses ?.

this is a statement i read recently on a french forum.. according to the statement, when the name jw was adopted back in 1931, the gc, as we know it today, was not yet identified, and the new name applied solely to the ex international bible students association, all anointed members of the fds.. when later, in 1935 the great crowd was identified, they were referred to as jonadabs, not yet as jehovahs witnesses.

i have been in the truth for over 60 years, but it is the first time i hear about that assumption.. can anyone of you confirm or infirm this statement?.

V

THIS IS TECHNICALITY, and a valid one, but no JW will accept this practically:

Young people who have been raised as Jehovah’s Witnesses do well to examine whether their Christian identity is becoming stronger based on a personal relationship with God. They cannot depend merely on the faith of their parents. Regarding each servant of God, Paul wrote: “To his own master he stands or falls.” Thus, Paul continues: “Each of us will render an account for himself to God.” (Romans 14:4, 12) Obviously, a halfhearted continuation of family tradition cannot sustain an intimate, long-term relationship with Jehovah.

Throughout history, there has been a succession of witnesses of Jehovah. It extends from the faithful man Abel—about 60 centuries ago—to the “great crowd” of modern Witnesses and on to throngs of worshipers of Jehovah who will enjoy an endless future.

WT 2/15/2005 page 16, pars. 16-17

Jesus wants all his disciples to be faithful, zealous witnesses right down to the very end of this wicked system of things. “This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations,” said Jesus, “and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:6-8) In both what he did and what he said, “the faithful and true witness” was an encouraging example for true Christian witnesses of Jehovah today. They recognize their grand privilege as upholders of the divine name and loyal servants of Jehovah who take to heart his words: “You are my witnesses . . . and I am God.”—Isaiah 43:10-12.

WT 6/1/84 page 22, par. 8

So although the scripture is specifically applied to anointed, the WT paints all followers with a broad brush as "witnesses."

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Earthly resurrection for those dying between 33CE and 1935CE?

by Mickey mouse in

in v's latest video, he quotes from the 2/12 1982 watchtower which states on page 30:.

for 19 centuries there was only the one calling, the heavenly one, with jehovah being very selective as to who would serve with his son to make up the kingdom government.

many would be invited but only a precious few chosen.. in effect, wt doctrine states that between 33ce and 1935ce, if you didn't get a heavenly resurrection, there's no hope of an earthly one?.

V

Yes, totally true. Next time you hear A JW say "won't it be great to meet <insert historical person from the first 19 centuries AD> in the resurrection, you can stop and say, nope!

One of my favourite points to bring up in JW discussions on that subject. Most JWs never make the connection.

Since Jehovah limits the number to 144,000 during this span of time, the billions worldwide who lived from 33 AD to the 19th century will have no hope, earthly heavenly or otherwise. At least that's what JWs teach.

See the video in reference here: http://vimeo.com/3934623

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2009 Memorial Video DOWNLOAD THE IMAGES!

by V in

images now available from the video (see below), just right-click and "save as" to download:.

see this link for details on each image: http://www.watchtowercomments.com/wtvmemorial-2009.html.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skppa3kzwbk.

V

where was that, nosferatu??

"... the number of anointed ones on the earth has decreased over the decades ..." - The Watchtower February 15, 2009 page 27 & 28

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2009 Memorial Video DOWNLOAD THE IMAGES!

by V in

images now available from the video (see below), just right-click and "save as" to download:.

see this link for details on each image: http://www.watchtowercomments.com/wtvmemorial-2009.html.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skppa3kzwbk.

V

Images now available from the video (see below), just right-click and "Save As" to download:

See this link for details on each image: http://www.watchtowercomments.com/WTVMemorial-2009.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skppA3KzWbk

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VOTE WINE IN 09!! - New Memorial Video

by V in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skppa3kzwbk.

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V

Images now available from the video, just right-click and "Save As" to download:

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VOTE WINE IN 09!! - New Memorial Video

by V in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skppa3kzwbk.

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V

I went to the http addy you have listed and it says 'We're sorry this video no longer available'. I wanted to put it in my favorites from youtube instead of this site.
Love the video! can you fix it on youtube?

The link does work, but I recommend using Vimeo for embeds: http://vimeo.com/3934623

Expect another topic tomorrow, where I'll share high quality images from the videos, including "anointed math" the "Vote Wine in 09."

Thanks for your response, please share!

V

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WILL THERE EVER BE A JW REVOLUTION?

by african GB Member in

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is there a possibility for jw's turning against the gb, perhaps by boycotting the "meetings" and fs?.

in my opinion, i think we could be heading for something to that "effect"..... i have heard several "brothers" in my cong talking about the "need" to adapt to the ever changing world..... .

are they gonna go mainstream and avoid a possible revolt?.

V

I believe that revolution is happening now, although in a passive agressive manner. More and more JWs are claiming to be anointed and the Governing Body can't stop it.

Just because you are not voting with your wine glass does not mean you are not part of the revolution, once a general acceptance of this growth (almost 10% in 2008) settles, serious considerations are:

Why do only 12 men speak for the Faithful and Discreet Slave, without any consultation?
How can the number 144,000 be literal?
Like a snowball, the culture of JWs could shift to being attracted to heaven. Even multiple married couples are claiming to be anointed in my circuit!

More here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skppA3KzWbk

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