Welcome 'Calico Ethel'. I thought Calico was born in 1881!! Is that a different one?
Fokyc from UK 'Cotswolds'
calico ethel.... one of my best friends!!!
glad you joined us!!!
now you can see for yourself why i talk about jwd and all the sweet people on here!
Welcome 'Calico Ethel'. I thought Calico was born in 1881!! Is that a different one?
Fokyc from UK 'Cotswolds'
often i hear jws claim that people leave the borg because they cannot follow the rules, implying that anyone who leaves lacks character, self control, and/or moral values.. often i hear jwd posters--me included--say the myriad of rules in the borg is one of (not the only) reason they would not follow the org.
virgochick said it well in the "how do you feel about the name j----?
" thread:.
Impossible to follow! The rules change from day to day, from Elder to Elder and from Cong to Cong. It's rather like walking on a Jelly (Jello)!!
I gave up in 1994 after a big blow up over who can read at the book study!! Never been to a meeting since!!
Fokyc
They are/were so secretive you wouldn't know what they had. Who are the public anyway? Usually they are charming to the public on the service, but once they are in the KH, then things change big time!
Bovine as in cows!!! I just couldn't believe that, sorry had to check the CD-ROM,
you are right!!!!!
Fokyc
a few years ago (circa 2002-3) a letter was read to all u.k. congregations, it had to be read twice, in essence it is the following item from the jw media site:.
http://www.jw-media.org/region/global/english/backgrounders/e_molestation.htm.
this is the second paragraph:.
HELP PLEASE
A few years ago (circa 2002-3) a letter was read to all U.K. congregations, it had to be read TWICE, in essence it is the following item from the JW media site:
http://www.jw-media.org/region/global/english/backgrounders/e_molestation.htm
This is the second paragraph:
"When any one of Jehovah's Witnesses is accused of an act of child abuse, the local congregation elders are expected to investigate. Two elders meet separately with the accused and the accuser to see what each says on the matter. If the accused denies the charge, the two elders may arrange for him and the victim to restate their position in each other's presence, with elders also there. If during that meeting the accused still denies the charges and there are no others who can substantiate them, the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time."
Please does anyone have a copy or remember the contents?
Are there any circumstances where the above paragraph would NOT be followed?
Many thanks, Fokyc
how much truth within the organization?
often times, having spent so many years as being one of jehovah's.
witnesses, the question crosses my mind, "how much truth was.
The Crowd at Mill Hill Bethel (U.K.) might be reasonably honest But my wife's local congregational elders are the most blatant liars that I have met in 73 years on this planet.
They can lie when answering items in the KH and in talks, I wonder if they are taught lying at the Elder's schools?
Fokyc
i'm new to posting to this forum.
my husband and i have been reading it for a few months.
we have finally written, sealed, and stamped our da letter, and it's ready to go directly to the post office.
I'm fairly new too, this is a brilliant site with a bunch of really friendly people. Way out better than any KH folk, down to earth honest answers to any questions you may have.
Fokyc
way back one man was the presiding overseer of the congregation.
then in the ' 70s they started the arrangement of the body of elders w/one being the po.
during this time they started w/the practice of rotating the entire boe so that each member would be serving in a different capacity - theocratic ministry school overseer, field overseer, literature overseer, secretary, etc.
When they rotated positions each elder had to learn something new. They made so many c**k u*s it was better to let one elder do one job for as long as possible.
In general they still seem to make a terrible mess of anything they are given to do. Just a load of misfits I think.
Fokyc
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happiness is playing hungry hungry hippos for over an hour with your daughter and loving every minute of it..
.......discovering that two of the local elders have lied and making them squirm while you prove it
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http://www.praguemonitor.com/ctk/?story_id=w40662i20060908;story=police-track-money-from-berka-case-to-jehovahs-witnesses>
Probably true, they get up to all sorts of things