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Posts by Dia
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by Dia ini'm interested in exploring a few things.
to try to keep these two topics separate, i'm going to attribute the letters a and b to them.
a for 'who's on the board?
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"Against our will...."
by Dia inwe who were 'raised in it' and had no choice about becoming part of this goofy religion, let's discuss our experiences collectively.. personally, i always feel that it was like having parents who were nazi's or members of the kkk.
almost no one can possibly understand what you've been through.
it was so radical.. and so harmful.
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Knotty boy - So much of the emotion connected with an event is tied in with the context and what came before. From the little you've written, it would seem that your parents had no capacity for empathy. And - like many awful parents - expected you to think like an adult about things which were barely comprehensible as a child.
I'm sorry they shattered your magic at such a tender age. As a parent, it is always tricky about how to hand out the magical things and how to later 'correct' them. Personally, I've found it very rewarding on all sides to hand out LOTS of magic and to later encourage them to find the 'truth' of these situations by saying, 'Hm...that's something you have to figure out yourself', as we gently acknowledge that they are getting older and smarter. (Exceptions made, of course, if it just gets TOO thorny for them.)
And then we all have a very good laugh about all the sneaky things we did to pull off our loving surprises. And then - surprise! - they might pull our own stunts on us!
It's a very fun thing to do. I'm very sorry that I never experienced it as a child and that most JW children also have not.
ps - I agree that 11 or 12 is a little old. At that point, your child risks being socially ostracized. But each family has its own way. And kids themselves generally guide the discussion with various questions and such. I am a strong believer that you should not lie to a child at all, unless you want them to forever be uncertain about trusting you. But you can pull it all off without telling them lies, especially when they ask you directly.
As far as parents getting upset and wanting them to believe it as long as possible, that's really an individual thing. Personally, I would not do that.
I don't think anything good comes from wanting to trick them into believing something that is not real. Especially when you might want to have serious discussions with them one day about God and religion and such.
But I can only speak for me.
Generally, the various ways that people deal with these things runs the entire gamut. With JWs being somewhere on the bottom, of course.
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"Against our will...."
by Dia inwe who were 'raised in it' and had no choice about becoming part of this goofy religion, let's discuss our experiences collectively.. personally, i always feel that it was like having parents who were nazi's or members of the kkk.
almost no one can possibly understand what you've been through.
it was so radical.. and so harmful.
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We who were 'raised in it' and had no choice about becoming part of this goofy religion, let's discuss our experiences collectively.
Personally, I always feel that it was like having parents who were nazi's or members of the KKK. Almost no one can possibly understand what you've been through. It was SO radical.
And SO harmful. After growing up as a JW, it's like you need lessons in LIFE. Just ordinary "life".
As a child, they successfully intimidated me out of my intuitions. Another life skill, destroyed.
Your turn.
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Who Are We ?
by Dia ini'm interested in exploring a few things.
to try to keep these two topics separate, i'm going to attribute the letters a and b to them.
a for 'who's on the board?
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14) JWs are tattlers. (Makes me wonder if they were tattlers in school and/or as children). Their religious environment is glued to tattling, in fact it is more than condoned, it is required. A very highly structured form of tattling is also part and parcel of the organization. As mentioned, this leads to the superficial relationships that they have. But that doesn't mean they won't try to make you feel bad for having superficial relationships.
15) JWs are fatalistic. Whatever happens, happens and don't expect to do anything about it and don't expect justice or anything else. Just behave and do as we say. Jehovah God will take care of everything eventually. He's getting to it. And if you have trouble with that, maybe you're just 'spiritually weak'.
[At some point in all this, you do start to feel sorry for them, don't you? Tho there is no denying the evil that they engender....)
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JW Dictionary
by thinker inwarning !.
the following "dictionary" may be very discomforting to true believers of jehovah's organization.
if you ask too many questions about these things you are told " jehovah will make it all clear in time.
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Dia
Fascinating and funny. Don't you wish there was a book form?
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Poll: Affection or sex
by Mimilly inif...... you had to choose just one to have for the rest of your life, which would it be?
affection or sex?
by affection here i mean snuggling, kissing, hand holding, all the little things.
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I like it when you can't tell the difference.
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Who Are We ?
by Dia ini'm interested in exploring a few things.
to try to keep these two topics separate, i'm going to attribute the letters a and b to them.
a for 'who's on the board?
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13) JWs seem to have some kind of a 'persecution complex'. They immerse themselves in reading about persecution. They prepare mentally for persecution. They look for persecution. They find persecution. They do things that are bound to result in persecution and they seem to love to do these things. They love to tell and hear stories of their personal persecution or of someone else's.
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Who Are We ?
by Dia ini'm interested in exploring a few things.
to try to keep these two topics separate, i'm going to attribute the letters a and b to them.
a for 'who's on the board?
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11) (hope I have the count right on this one) JWs are arguementative. They like to argue and the love to be right.
12) JWs are cut off from their emotions. They 'love' and 'hate' with their heads and not their hearts.
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Who Are We ?
by Dia ini'm interested in exploring a few things.
to try to keep these two topics separate, i'm going to attribute the letters a and b to them.
a for 'who's on the board?
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I like that one about having an arrogant nature. Let's make that B9.
B10) Some ? (many??) JWs suffer from 'compulsions'. They have little or no understanding of their compulsions and they don't want any. Neither do they want to admit that they have them. They turn to the thin, often useless, strategies of the WTS for dealing with them and when that doesn't work, they assign them to Satan or to demons.
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What you got on "under" there????....
by SpiceItUp ini am talking about underwear.... what do you put on if anything???.
i myself---either go with thongs----or nothing .
spice of the likes to feel free class
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Hmmmm....
Wonder why there are so many replies to this post......
Not to offend. Please don't take this wrong...but did you know that the most common sex crime among JWs is exhibitionism? (At least prior to the current scandal.)
Like I said, I'm not interested in offending anyone. But I think this is an unusual number of people who want to talk about their underwear.
Edited by - Dia on 9 August 2002 9:38:57