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  Just introducing myself

  by restrangled in

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  dear all,.

  just wanted to say hello and tell you how much i have appreciated all your postings as a "lurker"...sorry.. short history, grew up in the 70's as a 3rd generation jw, elders daughter, dad left in the 80's, df'd at 16 and the decision was reversed after 90 days.

  left when i was 18. i am now 48 and have suddenly been shunned by my mother even though i have supported her emotionally all these years never critisizing the wt, listening patiently to witnessing stories etc.

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  Thanks to everyone for the welcome and you can call me Amy. I am being "restrangled" but would rather be called by my name.

  Thanks again,

  amy
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  Did anyone deliberately start smoking to give the finger to WTBTS ?

  by hamsterbait in

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  2. beliefs

  i have never smoked - apart from the usual drag in the toilet at school to see what it was like.

  (promptly threw up lunch - mainly bacause of nausea, and butterflies induced by "omigod, now i am goin' to die at armageddy!".

  has anybody here left the lie, and started smoking to assert their complete liberation, or rebellion against the control and manipulation of the witlesses?.

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  YOU BETCHA! I started smoking on the way to school when I was 13. It was a total thrill as it was something I could choose. Nothing else in my life was of my design. I had a friend who's mother smoked and she would steal a cigarette for all of us..(several JW's involved) The choke hold on our lives was so constraining, this was our only personal freedom.

  I remember my younger brother saw me smoking and reported it to my mother ...had to be very early 70's... and when I got home and denied it, her response was "I don't care if you die, I am going to live forever!".....my cigarette consumption promptly increased 10 fold.

  Little did I know it would become a life long problem. I quit in my early teens while pioneering and the obligatory babtizing scenerio went on. At age 15 I picked it up again. Quit again and started up when I was 18. Quit when I was pregnant with my 2 boys for over 6 years and picked it up again after they were born. I have been smoking ever since, about 20 years straight. Still get a secret thrill out of being a smoker and I quess it still feels as if I'm giving the WT the finger. Its the reason my mother has decided to shun me after 30 years, even after providing me with an ashtray outside of her home for 20 years.

  Problem is I'm f...... my self. But due to programing believe I'm still going to die at armageddon before lung cancer.

  Go Figure!

  amy
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  Former sisters, remember the pant suit controversy in the seventies?

  by Sunnygal41 in

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  2. beliefs

  i was in my late 'teens, working for my own money, and polyester pant suits were all the rage in fashion.

  working at mc'donald's, i was able to afford two nice matching suits, with the jacket and vest, and a matching shirt...........these i wore to meetings, when i went.

  then, the jw grapevine went into action, regarding the suitablity for a sister to be wearing pants at a meeting.

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  Yes, I remember,

  We lived in Chicago and in the dead of winter it has reached 80 below with the windchill. Some of the older sisters in the winter on cold Thursday nights (service meetings) would wear them. (Never on Sundays) These were long established witnesses. It finally was announced that women were no longer able to wear pants of any kind to the meetings as it was a worldly trend.

  I would have loved to seen some of the old farts at Bethel in nylons in that weather and see how fast that worldly trend statement was retracted.

  As we all know women are still not allowed pants in any weather. I vote to get those old farts in some skirts and have to go out for meetings in New York. I bet the light would get brighter real fast!

  amy
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  Newbies Introduce yourselves!

  by Sparkplug in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, i have been in and out of here lately due to schedules.

  each time i log in there is a new member on the board.

  when i go to see who they are...usually there is nothing and everyone is doing great and jumping right into conversation...but i for one would like to know your stories...anyone care to share or just introduce themselves to everyone?.

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  Dear Sparkplug,

  I joined today after being a "lurker" for several weeks. You can find me in several posts. But just to give you a little background.....I was df'd when I was 16 as an elders daughter. I am not going into details now but in this day and age it would be considered date rape. My mother had the where-with-all to fight and sent a ten page letter to the society at the time. It was reversed 90 days later and I was the big example at the circuit sssembly.. private elders meeting as to how NOT to disfellowship. To bad so sad, it still left me reeling, and as no one had ever heard of a reversal, they didn't know how to react. NO apologies from the 5 elders wanting me nailed. No insturctions as to how to move on, and I am sure you are aware once you have earned a rep. or title in cong. there is no going back.

  I am 48 tomorrow. My father left as an elder in the 80's and is now dead. My mother forged on as a very strong witness. I left when I was 18 but never once discouraged or down played anything my mother believed in. 3 weeks ago she came to me stating she had to shun me after 30 years as the latest DO told her she must be obediant in all things because the end is so near. (You all have heard it before)

  This is my long story short.

  amy
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  Confidential Elders meetings, HA!

  by restrangled in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my father was and elder and i remember him coming home from elder's meetings telling my mother all.

  we lived in a small house so all could hear through the heating vents what was happening at the kh.

  i learned more than i ever cared to know about at a young age.

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  Not only do they blab, but the questions asked are of such a personal nature and ridiculous detail , I swore some of them were really getting their jollies off on the whole matter.

  Half of my Dfing comittee, years later was accused of much worse than what I went in for. One idiot was straight from Bethal, after leaving highschool. About 30 years old. Had never experienced life, not married and had it in for me big time. He was bald as an eagle, wore glasses and looked like he could have been 60 at the time. Rick D. Does that ring a bell out there? A real moron. I'd still like to wring his neck!

  amy
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  So are they predicting the End AGAIN?

  by GramblingMan in

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  jehovah's witnesses busy inviting everyone in region to convention in tacoma.

  by john iwasaki.

  p-i reporter.

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  Yes there is a big new "..The end is here!"

  I was just shunned after 30 years by my own mother because they must be faithful in all things. (Latest visit by the DO) The JW's must not be caught fudging on any rules. The sky is falling! The sky is falling! .....No, the s...is flying!

  amy
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  Confidential Elders meetings, HA!

  by restrangled in

  1. jw
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  my father was and elder and i remember him coming home from elder's meetings telling my mother all.

  we lived in a small house so all could hear through the heating vents what was happening at the kh.

  i learned more than i ever cared to know about at a young age.

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  My father was and elder and I remember him coming home from elder's meetings telling my mother all. We lived in a small house so all could hear through the heating vents what was happening at the KH. I learned more than I ever cared to know about at a young age. Those who were having oral sex, beating their wives, smoking, fornication. I had the goods on everyone at a very young age. The whole thing made me sick as I was held to higher standards than anyone in the hall (ie:elder's daughter). Sometimes my mother would confide more to me. UGGGH!

  The worst of all was the change over from a presiding overseer to the current ruling group.

  Our presiding overseer was brought before a comittee at the circuit assembly for business practices. Apparently he made a good amount of money. Heard all that too. My dad was the only one that defended him against many complaints in front of the circuit overseer. He was crucified by all.

  This was a huge circuit in the midwest. Do not wish to give details at this point, the stories are incredible and I can't image the destroyed lives.

  More later.

  amy
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  I Wonder How They Had the Cheek To Print this ?

  by BluesBrother in

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  2. bible

  awake!

  5/22 pp.

  "let no man deceive you with empty words.

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  It's not just one cheek, its two and they're sitting on them.

  amy
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  Why are EX-JW's and JW's in doubt(faders) so ''afraid" of the elders?

  by booker-t in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been out for years now but i still tremble alittle when i run into an elder at the store or run into an elder on the street and my post question certainly applies to me as well but why do i still have fear of jw's elders?

  i have been da'd for so many years but that fear still comes up.

  and reading alot of the post here i still see ex-jw's and jw's faders living a pretended jw life or pretending to be happy when they are miserable in the wt.

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  The Elders have great power to destroy lives and families, especially if they decide an individual is guilty, unrepentant, etc. They also may have it in for someone and are determined to rid a congregation of a person's contaminating factor as they see it.

  The havoc that can be created is astounding. People who have extended families in the WT, teenagers, or even if it is just a spouse involved can have their lives destroyed.

  They can reach out and extend that long arm to those long gone. It seems there is a program at present to accomplish this.
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  Just introducing myself

  by restrangled in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  dear all,.

  just wanted to say hello and tell you how much i have appreciated all your postings as a "lurker"...sorry.. short history, grew up in the 70's as a 3rd generation jw, elders daughter, dad left in the 80's, df'd at 16 and the decision was reversed after 90 days.

  left when i was 18. i am now 48 and have suddenly been shunned by my mother even though i have supported her emotionally all these years never critisizing the wt, listening patiently to witnessing stories etc.

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  restrangled

  Dear all,

  Just wanted to say hello and tell you how much I have appreciated all your postings as a "lurker"...sorry.

  Short history, grew up in the 70's as a 3rd generation Jw, elders daughter, Dad left in the 80's, DF'd at 16 and the decision was reversed after 90 days. Left when I was 18. I am now 48 and have suddenly been shunned by my mother even though I have supported her emotionally all these years never critisizing the WT, listening patiently to witnessing stories etc. (30 years!!!!)

  Have many stories, and look forward to getting to know all of you.

  amy