Posts by hopie

this is not an easy decision because he's fully aware that this isn't "the truth", but the pain of being excluded from normal family relations is really tearing him.

he has two choices: either move away from his family and try and start a new life, or bite the bullet, try and get reinstated and then do the fade.

When raising my children, they alway knew I never lied to them...ever, so this was why I was sucessful with my daughter, she knew I never lied to her. Now after she resigned, she knew why I lied, and loved me for it.

Hopie

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NEED ADVICE ON FAKING A REINSTATEMENT

by Mary in

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a friend of mine who is df'd is seriously considering trying to get reinstated in order to have his family back in his life.

this is not an easy decision because he's fully aware that this isn't "the truth", but the pain of being excluded from normal family relations is really tearing him.

he has two choices: either move away from his family and try and start a new life, or bite the bullet, try and get reinstated and then do the fade.

hopie

MARY,

THIS IS THE QUESTION I ASKED MYSELF BEFORE I SAT OUT ON THIS JOURNEY TO RESCUE MY DAUGHTER, WOULD IT BE RIGHT TO LIE TO MY DAUGHTER? I ALSO KNEW THE MINUTE I WALKED INTO THE KINGDOM HALL TO TELL THE ELDERS I WANTED TO BE RE-INSTATED, THERE WOULD BE NO TURNING BACK. I WOULD HAVE TO CONCEAL MY REAL MOTIVE, FROM THEN ON, EVERYTHING I WOULD SAY TO THEM AND LATER TO MY DAUGHTER WOULD BE BASED ON A LIE.

SO WOULD GOD APPROVE? MY CONSCIENCE TOLD ME MY MOTIVE WAS MORALLY PURE. I WAS DOING THIS FOR THE GOOD OF MY DAUGHTER, TO FREE HER FROM A MIND-CONTROLLING CULT, AND TO EXPOSE HER HUSBAND AS A CHILD MOLESTER.

THE BIBLE HAS MANY EXAMPLES OF HOW GOD USED INDIVIDUALS TO CARRY OUT HIS PURPOSE, AT TIMES THESE INDIVIDUALS WOULD DECEIVE OTHERS TO ACCOMPLISH THIS. EXAMPLES ARE FOUND IN THE BIBLE BOOK OF ESTHER, ALSO THE STORY OF JACOB AND ESAU WITH THEIR MOTHER LYING TO THEIR FATHER ISSAC IN ORDER TO EXCHANGE THE BIRTHRIGHT FROM ESAU TO JACOB. THERE IS THE STORY OF ABRAHAM, HIS SARAH ALSO HAD TO DECEIVE OTHERS WHEN THEY WERE IN DANGER IN EGYPT.

THIS IS WHAT I GLEAMED FROM THE SCRIPTURES TO ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT LYING.

I APPRIECIATE THE FACT THAT EVERYONE HAS TO ANSWER TO THEIR OWN CONSCIENCE, AND I WOULD HONOR THAT.

HOPIE

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NEED ADVICE ON FAKING A REINSTATEMENT

by Mary in

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friends

a friend of mine who is df'd is seriously considering trying to get reinstated in order to have his family back in his life.

this is not an easy decision because he's fully aware that this isn't "the truth", but the pain of being excluded from normal family relations is really tearing him.

he has two choices: either move away from his family and try and start a new life, or bite the bullet, try and get reinstated and then do the fade.

hopie

Hello Mary,

Yes, I wrote a book explaining my story, and it is now available on the book sites.

The title is "Going Undercover To Rescue My Daughter....From The Cult Of Jehovah's Witnesses"

My author's name is: Nancy J. Sage

ISBN # 0941813053

My husband and I resigned in 1983, he was an elder for 15 yres. We lost our daughter to this cult, and after all efforts to communicate with her failed, I decided to go back and get re-instated in 1993, only so I could eventually show her their cult-like errors. This journey took 2 years, many complications occured, including the exposing of her elder husband who was a child molester, molesting my other daughter when she was eleven and his own daughter. My book explains the procedure I went through with my (2) judicial committee's, plus the process of de-programming my daughter through those 2 years.

I know you will enjoy and benefit from reading my experience.

Hopie

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I don't get it

by lola28 in

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i need some help in understanding something that's been bothering me for a while, please give me some insight on this.

i often see posts here where some take shots at elders and witnesses for working as janitors and window washers, and it's always bothered me.

i mean does it really matter what they do for a living as long as they are making a living honestly?

hopie

THE ORG. HAS DECIDED LONG AGO TO DISCOURAGE EDUCATION, THEIR THEORY, KEEP EVERYONE UN-EDUCATED, THEN IT IS HARDER TO FIGURE THE GB OUT.

THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS IT DOWN PAT TOO, THEY GET BY MORE WITH THE THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES , THE UN-EDUCATED IS NOT NECESSARILY DUMB, THEY SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE EDUCATED TOOLS TO SEE THROUGH THE SOPHISTICATED RELIGIONS OR CULTS.

HOPIE

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How many JWs are there worldwide?

by klydia in

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sorry, i'm having a hard time finding this information!

do they still print it on the back of their literature?

thanks for you help :)

hopie

CAN YOU REALLY ( BELIEVE THOSE FIGURES ) ??

HOW CAN YOU WHEN THEY LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE !!!!

Hopie

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How many JWs are there worldwide?

by klydia in

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friends

sorry, i'm having a hard time finding this information!

do they still print it on the back of their literature?

thanks for you help :)

hopie

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THANK YOU (ALL) FOR YOUR SUPPORT...(MY BOOK)

by hopie in

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i want to tell all of you who have given me your support regarding my book, a big thank you !!.

the full title of my book:.

"going undercover to rescue my daughter....from the cult of jehovah's witnesses".

hopie

HI WHAT A COINCIDENCE

YOUR AD FOR MY BOOK IS GREAT....THANK YOU SO MUCH /

I WILL BE GLAD WHEN THEY FINALLY GET THE PICTURE OF MY COVER ON THE SITES. IT IS ALL BLACK SHOWING A GRAY MASK AND RED LETTERS FOR THE TITLE

NEXT, I WILL BE TURNING TO THE NEWS MEDIA...DIFFERENT STATES AND COUNTRIES....WISH ME LUCK.

HOPIE

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THANK YOU (ALL) FOR YOUR SUPPORT...(MY BOOK)

by hopie in

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friends

i want to tell all of you who have given me your support regarding my book, a big thank you !!.

the full title of my book:.

"going undercover to rescue my daughter....from the cult of jehovah's witnesses".

hopie

Hi Wednesday

Sorry for the struggle to locate my book, as I mentioned before it is because it is new on the book sites, and you are right about the title, use only when you order "Going Undercover To Rescue My Daughter" and again, I might say, by using my ISBN # 0941813053 is also an easy way to find my book. They, the (venders) will come up showing my cover eventually too.

My comments about my story: It is posted on page 3524 of this board.

Thanks so much,

hopie