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  NEED ADVICE ON FAKING A REINSTATEMENT

  by Mary in

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  a friend of mine who is df'd is seriously considering trying to get reinstated in order to have his family back in his life.

  this is not an easy decision because he's fully aware that this isn't "the truth", but the pain of being excluded from normal family relations is really tearing him.

  he has two choices: either move away from his family and try and start a new life, or bite the bullet, try and get reinstated and then do the fade.

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  MARY,

  THIS IS THE QUESTION I ASKED MYSELF BEFORE I SAT OUT ON THIS JOURNEY TO RESCUE MY DAUGHTER, WOULD IT BE RIGHT TO LIE TO MY DAUGHTER? I ALSO KNEW THE MINUTE I WALKED INTO THE KINGDOM HALL TO TELL THE ELDERS I WANTED TO BE RE-INSTATED, THERE WOULD BE NO TURNING BACK. I WOULD HAVE TO CONCEAL MY REAL MOTIVE, FROM THEN ON, EVERYTHING I WOULD SAY TO THEM AND LATER TO MY DAUGHTER WOULD BE BASED ON A LIE.

  SO WOULD GOD APPROVE? MY CONSCIENCE TOLD ME MY MOTIVE WAS MORALLY PURE. I WAS DOING THIS FOR THE GOOD OF MY DAUGHTER, TO FREE HER FROM A MIND-CONTROLLING CULT, AND TO EXPOSE HER HUSBAND AS A CHILD MOLESTER.

  THE BIBLE HAS MANY EXAMPLES OF HOW GOD USED INDIVIDUALS TO CARRY OUT HIS PURPOSE, AT TIMES THESE INDIVIDUALS WOULD DECEIVE OTHERS TO ACCOMPLISH THIS. EXAMPLES ARE FOUND IN THE BIBLE BOOK OF ESTHER, ALSO THE STORY OF JACOB AND ESAU WITH THEIR MOTHER LYING TO THEIR FATHER ISSAC IN ORDER TO EXCHANGE THE BIRTHRIGHT FROM ESAU TO JACOB. THERE IS THE STORY OF ABRAHAM, HIS SARAH ALSO HAD TO DECEIVE OTHERS WHEN THEY WERE IN DANGER IN EGYPT.

  THIS IS WHAT I GLEAMED FROM THE SCRIPTURES TO ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT LYING.

  I APPRIECIATE THE FACT THAT EVERYONE HAS TO ANSWER TO THEIR OWN CONSCIENCE, AND I WOULD HONOR THAT.

  HOPIE
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  NEED ADVICE ON FAKING A REINSTATEMENT

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a friend of mine who is df'd is seriously considering trying to get reinstated in order to have his family back in his life.

  this is not an easy decision because he's fully aware that this isn't "the truth", but the pain of being excluded from normal family relations is really tearing him.

  he has two choices: either move away from his family and try and start a new life, or bite the bullet, try and get reinstated and then do the fade.

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  Hello Mary,

  Yes, I wrote a book explaining my story, and it is now available on the book sites.

  The title is "Going Undercover To Rescue My Daughter....From The Cult Of Jehovah's Witnesses"

  My author's name is: Nancy J. Sage

  ISBN # 0941813053

  My husband and I resigned in 1983, he was an elder for 15 yres. We lost our daughter to this cult, and after all efforts to communicate with her failed, I decided to go back and get re-instated in 1993, only so I could eventually show her their cult-like errors. This journey took 2 years, many complications occured, including the exposing of her elder husband who was a child molester, molesting my other daughter when she was eleven and his own daughter. My book explains the procedure I went through with my (2) judicial committee's, plus the process of de-programming my daughter through those 2 years.

  I know you will enjoy and benefit from reading my experience.

  Hopie
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  I don't get it

  by lola28 in

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  i need some help in understanding something that's been bothering me for a while, please give me some insight on this.

  i often see posts here where some take shots at elders and witnesses for working as janitors and window washers, and it's always bothered me.

  i mean does it really matter what they do for a living as long as they are making a living honestly?

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  THE ORG. HAS DECIDED LONG AGO TO DISCOURAGE EDUCATION, THEIR THEORY, KEEP EVERYONE UN-EDUCATED, THEN IT IS HARDER TO FIGURE THE GB OUT.

  THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS IT DOWN PAT TOO, THEY GET BY MORE WITH THE THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES , THE UN-EDUCATED IS NOT NECESSARILY DUMB, THEY SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE EDUCATED TOOLS TO SEE THROUGH THE SOPHISTICATED RELIGIONS OR CULTS.

  HOPIE
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  How many JWs are there worldwide?

  by klydia in

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  sorry, i'm having a hard time finding this information!

  do they still print it on the back of their literature?

  thanks for you help :)

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  CAN YOU REALLY ( BELIEVE THOSE FIGURES ) ??

  HOW CAN YOU WHEN THEY LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE !!!!

  Hopie
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  How many JWs are there worldwide?

  by klydia in

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  sorry, i'm having a hard time finding this information!

  do they still print it on the back of their literature?

  thanks for you help :)

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  THANK YOU (ALL) FOR YOUR SUPPORT...(MY BOOK)

  by hopie in

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  i want to tell all of you who have given me your support regarding my book, a big thank you !!.

  the full title of my book:.

  "going undercover to rescue my daughter....from the cult of jehovah's witnesses".

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  HI WHAT A COINCIDENCE

  YOUR AD FOR MY BOOK IS GREAT....THANK YOU SO MUCH /

  I WILL BE GLAD WHEN THEY FINALLY GET THE PICTURE OF MY COVER ON THE SITES. IT IS ALL BLACK SHOWING A GRAY MASK AND RED LETTERS FOR THE TITLE

  NEXT, I WILL BE TURNING TO THE NEWS MEDIA...DIFFERENT STATES AND COUNTRIES....WISH ME LUCK.

  HOPIE
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  THANK YOU (ALL) FOR YOUR SUPPORT...(MY BOOK)

  by hopie in

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  i want to tell all of you who have given me your support regarding my book, a big thank you !!.

  the full title of my book:.

  "going undercover to rescue my daughter....from the cult of jehovah's witnesses".

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  Hi Wednesday

  Sorry for the struggle to locate my book, as I mentioned before it is because it is new on the book sites, and you are right about the title, use only when you order "Going Undercover To Rescue My Daughter" and again, I might say, by using my ISBN # 0941813053 is also an easy way to find my book. They, the (venders) will come up showing my cover eventually too.

  My comments about my story: It is posted on page 3524 of this board.

  Thanks so much,

  hopie
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  THANK YOU (ALL) FOR YOUR SUPPORT...(MY BOOK)

  by hopie in

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  i want to tell all of you who have given me your support regarding my book, a big thank you !!.

  the full title of my book:.

  "going undercover to rescue my daughter....from the cult of jehovah's witnesses".

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  hopie

  I want to tell all of you who have given me your support regarding my book, a big thank you !!

  the full title of my book:

  "GOING UNDERCOVER TO RESCUE MY DAUGHTER....FROM THE CULT OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"

  It is now available on most book sites. Because it is new, not all venders have uploaded the full information, but I have found it easy to find it by going to google and typing in my ISBN # 0941813053.

  Most of you who have read my summary regarding my decision to go back and become a member again so i could show my daughters all their cult-errors find it hard or impossible to do, and I concur with you, it was hard. What brought me to the point of making this decision was the morning I woke up to the national news that the compound of waco was burning in 1993, the government was attacking a cult. At that time, after 10 years of experiencing chronic depression from losing my daughter to this cult, a strong spirit rose in me like never before. When I was watching the burning of Waco, I jumbed out of my chair and said: "THAT IS IT...I AM GOING BACK IN". Yes, no man or religion is going to take my daughter away from me.

  This began my 2 year rescue journey, I also accomplished the exposing of her elder husband (child molester), to her but not the elders. Remember they don't disfellowship child molesters !

  I hope you enjoy my story ! My e-mail address is: [email protected]

  thank you again,

  hopie
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  ANNOUNCEMENT Going Undercover To Rescue My Daughter....con't

  by hopie in

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  continuation...my hunsband and i were jehovah's witnesses for over 40 years , and my husband an elder for 15 years in orange, calif. we resigned in 1983, and lost our daughter to this cult for 10 years.after all the efforts to communicate failed, i decided to rejoin and become a member again in 1993. we were labled "apostates" and their policy forced my daughted to not talk to us.

  i took this action only so i could communicate with her and eventurally show her their cult-like errors.. i was encouraged by my family to write about my two year rescue journey.

  in it i explain the stuggle of de-programming her through this process, plus the exposing of her elder husband as a (child molester), also the organizational structure, how they operate as a goverment within a goverment, and do not disclose to the civil authorities crimes committed by their members.

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  THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR SUPPORT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  BECAUSE MY BOOK IS NEW ON GOOGLE AND OTHER SITES...IT HAS STARTED OUT SOMEWHAT SLOW TO FIND IT.

  BUT I NEVER MISS WHEN I GO TO GOOGLE AND TYPE IN MY ISBN # 0941813053

  ON THIS SITE YOU WILL EVEN SEE THE COVER OF MY BOOK !

  All of you mention how hard it would be to go back to the org. Yes, you can believe it was hard for me, especially sitting before the judicial committee, in fact I had two judicial committee's to reckon with, my original home congregation in Orange, Ca too. When you read my story you will see how I coped with it.

  I am basically a very positive person, so when I surfaced from my chronic depression in those 10 years of loss. I said that is it, I am going back. This was the morning I woke up to the news about Waco burning.. I got myself together and said, no man or religion was going to keep my daughter away from me. The rest is history !

  Again, thank you all for your loving support, next I will be going to the news media with my story..wish me luck.

  hopie
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  ANNOUNCEMENT Going Undercover To Rescue My Daughter....con't

  by hopie in

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  continuation...my hunsband and i were jehovah's witnesses for over 40 years , and my husband an elder for 15 years in orange, calif. we resigned in 1983, and lost our daughter to this cult for 10 years.after all the efforts to communicate failed, i decided to rejoin and become a member again in 1993. we were labled "apostates" and their policy forced my daughted to not talk to us.

  i took this action only so i could communicate with her and eventurally show her their cult-like errors.. i was encouraged by my family to write about my two year rescue journey.

  in it i explain the stuggle of de-programming her through this process, plus the exposing of her elder husband as a (child molester), also the organizational structure, how they operate as a goverment within a goverment, and do not disclose to the civil authorities crimes committed by their members.

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  Hello Kenneson !

  Yes, I am very pleased, and appreciate any help I get. I am new at this, but I have big plans to use my book, I am going to the news media with it, and hopefully be able to expose how this cult has separated and destroyed millions of families, plus all their crimes that they have committed.

  Is there a certain page that you posted my book on?

  Thanks so much

  hopie