i am going to send my jw relative the c of c book.
with it i am going to enclose some postings.
from this board.
Hello (Relative)
I am happy to hear you are open minded enough to read some comments from people who have
valid reasons for leaving the JW organization. Please do not stop investagating.
After 40 years a member, and my husband an elder for 15 years, we resigned in 1983. The reasons we
left are outlined in my book "Going Undercover To Rescue My Daughter, From The Cult Of Jehovah's
Witnesses". by Nancy J. Sage
Hopie
greetings, my name is marcio from brazil, i'm a jw sine 1994. i speak others language, and i'd like to make friendship after, change some magazins in others language.
i'v got awake publications in portuguese.
with you interest in change , writte me back at [email protected] or in my home adreess... marcio francisco.
Hello Marcio, and WELCOME
Do you need help to transulate the Awake in other languages? Is that your question?
I am not sure if you can acquire any help from this discussion board on that request, but if you need help to make any other changes for the Awake magazine, I will certainly be happy to help you.
Hopie
anyone know merton & olga campbell from bethel,.
met them years ago at bethel nyc and thought they were an amazing couple - very hospitable and warm... merton i think is quite senior at headquaters , but seemed more liberal than most .. also anyone know olaf stephenson from watchtower farms, was a really nice fella and often wonder what they are doing with their lives today?????.
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Sorry Raphael,
I don't recognize those names, but I would appreciate knowing if anyone knows Eugene Amy, I recently heard he is an ex-jw now, after serving over 30 years in Bethel.
Hopie
last week an elder who has served in bethel gave the service meeting talk, which referred to the front page of the sep km (which i don't yet have) on the governing body's letter to all publishers.. he started by saying that "drastic times call for drastic measures" - bethel was going through periods of rapid change.. he referred to a symposium given by brother jaracz and splane last december, where they tried to brush off the layoffs saying everyone had to keep "up with jehovah's celestial chariot".
bethelites were being reassigned to the field, and this would be difficult for them.
some in bethel who were being reassigned had been there 20 or 30 years.
I agree truthseeker.... The org. is in a steep delcline...
The mud slide has begun, and their house of cards are falling !!
Hopie
making a documentary
if you had the opportunity to create a documentary .
or movie about the life within the watchtower society.
V I C T I M
REASON?
ACCORDING TO WEBSTER DICTIONARY:
"One that is subjected to oppression, hardship, or mistreatment,one that is tricked or duped"
this was such a sad exhange and just shows how unnatural this bogus rule by the wbts is.. i see my moms name on the caller id and i immediately pick up.
(keep in mind we live 2 blocks apart).
my mom says julia?, and i say no mom its me, you must have dialed the wrong number.. mom: oh, i'm sorry, how are you?
I AM SO VERY SORRY YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS SUNNING WITH YOUR MOTHER? HOW HEARTBREAKING IT MUST BE FOR YOU.
THE ROLE WAS REVERSED FOR ME, MY DAUGHTER WASN'T ALLOWED TO TALK TO ME FOR 10 YEARS AND AFTER EVERY EFFORT ON MY PART TO CHANGE HER MIND. I CRIED ALL THE TIME, WISHING I COULD JUST HOLD HER IN MY ARMS. MY TEARS TURNED TO ANGER AND I WENT AFTER HER, IT TOOK TWO YEARS, BUT I GOT HER.
IT SOUNDS LIKE SHE LOVES YOU VERY MUCH, AND I AM SURE IT WILL EVENTUALLY TURN OUT OK FOR YOU. MY HEART IS WITH YOU.
THIS IS MY MISSION IN LIFE, TO USE MY BOOK TO HELP EXPOSE' THEM THROUGH THE NEWS MEDIA AND TALK SHOWS.
HOPIE
i realize that threads like this have been done before, but i don't think that it hurts to do one again.. i personally appreciate this website so much.
it has been an absolute treasure-trove of information, research material, emotional support, and simple enjoyment.
and, it's free of charge!
HEY ARTHUR !!!!
SORRY ABOUT THAT, LOOKED AT THE BOARD WRONG AND THOUGHT LADY LEE SUGGESTED A BIG THANK YOU...
SO THANK YOU ARTHUR FOR YOUR SUGGESTION.....
HOPIE
i realize that threads like this have been done before, but i don't think that it hurts to do one again.. i personally appreciate this website so much.
it has been an absolute treasure-trove of information, research material, emotional support, and simple enjoyment.
and, it's free of charge!
THANK YOU LADY LEE FOR REMINDING US !!!!!!
I remember very well in 1983, when my husband and I resigned, how utterly lonely I felt, you have to start all over again in acquiring friends. Not knowing why I so depressed all the time, and that I was going post-traumatic stress. When we resigned, we left for many good reasons, but it took many years to find out this org. was actually a cult, and this is what happens to people when they leave Cults.
For me, this is one of the top reasons why a discussion board like this is so important, ex-JWs can come here and not feel alone, and learn so much more.
There are many boards out there, I personally feel this is one of the BEST !!!!
THANK YOU
HOPIE
i've been lurking here and reading for a couple of months now.
i was also a jw for a few years but got myself dfed when i started asking difficult questions, wouldn't stop asking them, and kept pointing out how the wts didn't make any sense.
i am an unrepentent rebellious one who was warned and publically reproved until finally i finally had it out with the elders and they showed me the door.
WELCOME TO THE SANE WORLD
Are we nortorious or INFAMOUS or both?
What kind of questions did you ask that made the elders so upset?
Hopie
recently ive been doing a lot of research on judicial committees, as my friend is currently going through one, as mentioned here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/118972/1.ashx
i just posted an update.
one thing ive noticed in my research, is that there is no scriptural support to back up the judicial committee system.
HI ZICO.....
YES, WE NEED TO KNOW ALITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION, IF YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE
IN TELLING US WHAT HE IS UP BEFORE THE COMMITTEE MEETING FOR, THAT IS FINE,
MAYBE YOU CAN SAY WHETHER IS IT REAL SERIOUS OR NOT.
THE OUTCOME PRETTY MUCH DEPENDS ON THE KIND OF MEN THAT ARE ON THE JUDICIAL
COMMITTEE, SOME ARE VERY SINCERE AND LOVING AND SOME ARE JUST THE OPPOSITE.
MY HUSBAND WAS AN ELDER FOR 15 YEARS, AND HE TOLD ME OF SOME HORROR STORIES OF THE
THE ATTITUDES SOME ELDERS HAD, LIKE SHOWING NO COMPASSION.
AS MENTIONED BY THE ABOVE COMMENTS, ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THE ELDERS LOOK FOR
IS HUMILITY AND REPENDENCE.
HOPIE
