I was fortunate enough to go to college in the early '90s, so at least I have the degree and career thing right.
-Anything else that includes improving life of myself and others, (including exposing the nonsense of the WTBTS), is a goal.
j
do you hope to accomplish anything at this point in your life?
I was fortunate enough to go to college in the early '90s, so at least I have the degree and career thing right.
-Anything else that includes improving life of myself and others, (including exposing the nonsense of the WTBTS), is a goal.
j
i'm "alpheta".
i've been reading here for the past few weeks, but have visited from time to time over several years.. short history, i started studying in 1993, was baptised in 1996, and succinctly and with much planning disassociated myself in october, 2003.. i don't believe i have any lasting psychological damage or issues, but i was curious about the state of the wtbts (or whatever they go by these days), and i found your site and a lot of information that, i have to say, i found shocking at first like - oh my goddess, they really did that?
- kind of thing.. anyway, nice to have read your posts and i really enjoy the sense of community here.
Welcome, Alpheta!
j
i'm a bit reluctant in writing this post, for i dont feel i should be here.
even a bit nervous... .
i've never officially dedicated myself to jehovah, but i was brought up in the truth, very strong, and at times when getting older, there were lulls in my attendance... yet to this day i still attend.
Wecome, Saki2Fifty,
In all honesty, if you spend some time here you will see a lot more honesty than negativity. Even though I had serious concerns about the organization for many years, I could never bring myself to consider what would be considered "apostate" material. A year ago, I can assure you, I would not have been here. What brought me here was circumstances in my life finally forced me to take a cold hard look at things. I had no choice, the choice was made for me, if I was going to be honest with myself. A painful preocess that yields rewards if you are patient.
Please, before you assume that everyone here is just ranting about the organization, take some time to do some research. I recently had my eyes opened, and am a much better, (and happier), person for it. No, it was not easy, and yes, I can point to many things about the organization that I miss. So could people from MANY religious backgrounds, as regard thier church. But continuing to base my entire life on falsehood had to stop. I ended up making some very bad life decisions because of that structure, and eventually I began to recognize the source. Even more so, it's just plain dishonest, and I could not live with that.
Take Care,
j
someone asked columnist phillip milano of the jacksonville, florida times union this very question.
you will find remarks of several individuals and the reasons they offer, ranging from deterrence to vandalism, to saving on air conditioning bills, etc.
even j.r. brown gives his two-cents worth and replies to critic paul blizzard.. http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/080106/enm_4104779.shtml
The last one I belonged to had windows, (Millville,NJ). The original building was built in the 1950s. The hall I grew up in, (also originally built in the 1950s), did NOT have windows. Most recent trends in building lean towards "simplicity" so probably for some or all of the reasons mentioned above they would consider a windowless design.
j
i just want to share this with you all.. a few weeks ago, trev (dedpoet) popped the question, and of course i accepted, so we are getting married!!
we have been busy getting things started since then, hence the slight delay in posting our news.
we aren't in a particular hurry, as we have no desire to have children.
Congrats!!!!
j
i attended my mother's memorial at the kingdom hall saturday afternoon.
even with the jw sermon tagged on, my cousin did a lovely service for her.
there were many jws and non-jws in attendence.
I don't claim to be Christian anymore, but would JESUS do that??? Dispicable.
j
i lurked here for about 6 or 7 months, before i started posting.. i have read experience after experience in which the victim of gossip, slander, abuse in the congregation is the one who is made to feel like they are the ones who need to apologize, when they are the ones that need the apology from the perpetrators of the injustice.. .
one theme that continues to repeat itself in the congregation is this: the victim is always wrong and the victimizer is always right.
warlock
***If the victimizer is wrong then there might be something wrong with the organization***
A good friend, (still a jw), told me a long time ago that much of what the org. does is done out expedient need. The above just sums it up nicely.
j
if the elders came and inspected your home - what would they find?.
a casual look around reveals a box of "narnia" tissues on my desk, 12 or 14 non-witness translations of bibles on my shelves, many non approved novels [wifey's] on the reading table, plenty of 'apostate literature', a book or two on meditation, a hypnosis cd for weight loss, prob many toys that are not witness approved in the g-kids room, a half eaten birthday cake, a birthday balloon, xmas wrapping paper in the closet , a couple of r rated movies, music that is not acceptable.. that is just at first blush.
how is your house?
Well, for starters the girlfriend could be a problem...
ok. minimus had his 'what did you hate about being a jw' thread, so i want to take a different tack on this.
i'll even start it.
i loved some of the get-togethers we had.
I think LOVE would be an overstatement to say the least. "Tolerated" is more like it.
j
how many just stopped believing in the jw predictions/description of what armageddon is all about?
ive met exjws that stopped believing in everything they were taught and ive met some that stopped believing in everything except armageddon.
ive heard comments like: boy wont they be surprised when the day comes and they find out they arent the only ones surviving.
It was probably one of the last things to go, but it finally did. Along with belief in god in general. I won't quite say I'm an atheist though. In fairness, I believe we have no way of knowing such things in the here and now.
j