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  Mays JW TV Broadcast/Your feedback is appreciated

  by ToesUp in

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  2. friends

  i have a pretty good intuition but i have to admit i am going back and forth on the jw tv may broadcast.

  i keep asking myself are they really in financial trouble (wishful thinking) or are they just grabbing for more money?.

  i always appreciate reading everyone's thoughts and ideas on here.. let me know what you think.

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  done4good

  It depends on what is meant by "trouble". In terms of operating expenses, no way. Lett told a bald faced lie about that.
  

  They do obviously have capital initiatives that require a certain amount of capital to make possible, and this is likely why they are asking for money. They are clearly restructuring also, (they have been doing this since they did away with the book study in 2008, if not the Bethel layoffs starting in 2002), and moving towards a more regional business model. This too both requires capital for the restructuring projects and allows them to save operating costs longer term.

  They know most JWs do not understand any of this, so it is easy for them to get away with. This is one of perks of maintaining an uneducated member base.
  

  So they are being deceptive and manipulative at best.

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  OMG - How Low Can They Go?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm sorry if this has been posted previously, but i haven't noticed it.. this was posted on reddit.. has anyone seen this moneysuck video:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5ylee4u_yu.

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  done4good

  Even though I have been out for almost 10 years, this makes me angry when I think about it...

  I cannot even think of a parallel, (religious or otherwise), where a song was used to ask for money...

  Sick manipulative shit.
  

  Disgusting.

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  May tv.jw.org program

  by zophar in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the may broadcast on tv.jw.org.

  we need money!.

  http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwb_201505_1_video.

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  done4good

  Just watched the video , (now that I am home from work). Wow! What a manipulative mindf@ck! Worse than I even would have thought...
  

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  Are we going to see a mass awakening?

  by kairos in

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  2. friends

  the internet is the archive for civilization.. watchtower cannot hide it's history.. are we seeing the beginning of a mass exodus out of her?.

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  done4good

  Steve2 - You do not have to become apostate in your thinking to leave; it is far easier simply to slide into an increased level of apathy - which is a bigger threat to the organization's viability than apostasy.

  Apathy is certainly a more practical threat. Unfortunately, it is still a big departure from people actually "waking up". Many of the apathetic count would defend the organization in a heartbeat if we were to openly criticize it in some manner.

  That said, the apathetic serve their purpose. They typically contribute very little, (in time or money), tend to be a distraction to the efforts being made by the organization, and alas, it does not take much for them to wake up, when the time is right.

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  Kingdom Hall loans Cancelled? Lurkers...please read

  by ToesUp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i hope that writing this, there will be some lurkers that i can shake.. if you have not listened to mays tv broadcast, please do.

  it may wake some up.. note @ around 21-22 minutes into the broadcast lett brings up the the kingdom halls/assembly hall loans have been cancelled and the congregation can now send in what they can afford.

  wow...how many banks would do that?.

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  Bradford - I wish it would wake up a whole mess of people but who are we kidding. This cult stuff works.

  I agree with that. However, it was never about a "mass awakening". What this is more about is speeding up a process where the best and brightest have been slowly awakening. Most of the changes that have taken place over the last few years have been doing just that. Just look at how many intelligent folks have found there way here. Many have been in many, many years.

  The WT will not implode anytime soon, but eventually will be reduced to the lunatic fringe. It is well on its way.
  

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  May tv.jw.org program

  by zophar in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the may broadcast on tv.jw.org.

  we need money!.

  http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwb_201505_1_video.

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  For all of those who have said these guys are doing more damage to themselves with this than we ever could, you could not be more right. I think many of us saw this coming with jw.org.tv, we just didn't expect them to go off the rails so soon...A year ago I would have said no way.
  

  Its still a marathon folks, but they sure seem to be shortening the course a bit...

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  May tv.jw.org program

  by zophar in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the may broadcast on tv.jw.org.

  we need money!.

  http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwb_201505_1_video.

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  done4good

  Their desperation is palpable.

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  I want to carry the microphones"

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this was the reason that our 12 year old son gave us for wanting to be baptized.

  my wife and i actually agreed that he should wait a little longer, thank god!

  by the time he was 13 he was running wild.

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  done4good

  You need to stand up to your wife and be there for your daughter, (yes openly, sneaking around your wife is not good enough). Your wife will respect you for that later, if she is worth keeping. Some self reflection is in order on this one.

  This thread has nothing to do with microphones. (I also edited this post significantly, FWIW).
  

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  Did Ray Franz ever address his thoughts on atheism?

  by JWINQUESTION in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does anybody know if ray franz ever addressed his thoughts on atheism?

  from what i've read, he was a diligent reader of the bible.

  if anybody has any info and sources about this, it is highly appreciated.

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  done4good

  Ray remained a Christian with beliefs that did not change much from JW in many areas, (still rejected the Trinity, for example). I always thought this a bit odd, but now I think I understand it to be just how far the conditioning affects a person. Ray was just human in the end.

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  Does the GB really care if the organization collapses?

  by Driving Force in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am sure that the gb does not care about the r&f jw.

  it does not care about the organization collapsing overnight.. why do i say this?.

  in 2013 the organization declared that the "faithful and discreet slave" consisted only of the seven member of the gb.

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  done4good

  After taking over all property and extra cash from all congregations on the whole planet, which amounts to at the very least US$ 50 billion, they are in a great position if every one leaves, they can just share the cash between themselves.

  That is one of the more absurd ideas that finds its way here every now and again. They cannot do this as a non-profit, it is flatly illegal. They do get away with taking the money from the local congregations however, because that is simply a transfer from one non-profit to another which is legal.

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