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  The Australian Royal Commission will NOT do a damn thing to the WT!

  by Calebs Airplane in

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  2. child-abuse

  the rothschild family will not allow the aussies to take any significant action against their religious wing (mormons, jws, adventists, etc.).

  the worst outcome for the borg will be a relatively small fine and a deadline to change their rules.

  that is all..

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  No one is suppressing anyone's views, user,

  Definitive statements devoid of actual facts or evidence should be called out for exactly what they are. We are doing no one any favors by placating stupidity - not the posters, the members, the lurkers and least of all the conspiracy theorists.

  Not everyone telling you sweet things is your friend, user, and not everyone telling you truthful things that sting a bit is your enemy.

  Excellent points, DJS.

  Not everything is a matter of opinion. False and potentially dangerous information should be systematically deconstructed for what it is. Any time spent performing some open-minded research would prove any of these theories wrong in a very short time.

  Almost all conspiracy theories have three things in common, so look for them:

  1. Consider limited evidence, and only evidence that can support the theory, (confirmation bias). Additional evidence can usually very easily be presented that would debunk the theory.
  

  2. Those who believe those theories will never accept evidence to the contrary when it is shown to them.

  3. The theories are usually the product of fear of a specific group or groups.
  

  Does this not sound WT-esque now?
  

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  The Australian Royal Commission will NOT do a damn thing to the WT!

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the rothschild family will not allow the aussies to take any significant action against their religious wing (mormons, jws, adventists, etc.).

  the worst outcome for the borg will be a relatively small fine and a deadline to change their rules.

  that is all..

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  illuminated - I understand many of us appreciate facts, yet consider our government a larger version of the WTS. It was difficult to believe "Apostates" when you all were in due to WT propaganda, yet you've awakened and now see the cult for what it is.

  You don't speak for all of us.
  

  I don't take any information for granted, including that of anti-WT material. I am careful what I repeat to others, as it has a way of coming back, if false. In fact, we should use these types of things as a reminder to be careful in what we accept as truth. Our experience in the WT, (perhaps the biggest conspiracy theorist of all), should clearly tell us that we should be cautious, prudent, and logical about how we approach information. Ex-JWs that believe every conspiracy theory are just falling for yet another, albeit smaller, than the one they previously based their entire life on.

  Silliness such as the Rothschilds controlling the world's wealth is just that - silliness. Get real.
  

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  How big a deal is the royal commission..? It seems to be not much...

  by _Morpheus in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  my understanding (very limited and maybe flawed) is that this commission has no teeth.

  if thats true why would the org care?

  send a few lawyers, go through the motions but in the end.... its a dog parking on a porch.

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  Joe Grundy - Your synopsis confirms my thoughts. Nice write up.

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  The Australian Royal Commission will NOT do a damn thing to the WT!

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the rothschild family will not allow the aussies to take any significant action against their religious wing (mormons, jws, adventists, etc.).

  the worst outcome for the borg will be a relatively small fine and a deadline to change their rules.

  that is all..

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  done4good

  Oh, here we go....

  Amelia Earhart is alive and well...

  Jim Morrison is starting a new band called the Lizard Kings...

  We didn't land on the moon...

  Oh, and wait for it....Obama was born where???

  Where is Kenya on the map anyway?

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  How big a deal is the royal commission..? It seems to be not much...

  by _Morpheus in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  my understanding (very limited and maybe flawed) is that this commission has no teeth.

  if thats true why would the org care?

  send a few lawyers, go through the motions but in the end.... its a dog parking on a porch.

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  I will defer to the Aussies or others better qualified than myself to determine if the RC has any teeth.

  That said, there is no question that the coverage has attention. The frequency and intensity of pressure the organization is receiving from many sources, on many fronts, amounts to a long, slow death of a thousand cuts.

  Someone mentioned on another thread about JWs becoming more "culty". This is a sign of itself of cognitive dissonance being experienced by the masses, in aggregate. CD is the product of internal mental conflict, and when these types of stories hit the media, the JWs' reaction initially is shock, almost immediately followed by a strong sense of denial. That denial is their "protection" from information they find very discomforting, and their response to the dissonant information heard.

  All of this leads to a polarization of currently open minded people vs. hardcore adherents over time. The ones left who are "culty" in their behaviors are the more hardcore types, however being hardcore is not 100% mutually exclusive with being intelligent. Once something happens to them personally that makes them question, all of these accounts that caused CD come rushing back, and this time serve to confirm their doubts, rather than causing them to dig their heels in deeper.

  If most of us take the time to reflect on our exit out, we can probably see how some variation of this process happened to ourselves.

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  Did I hear right, the Judge said he wanted to see a member of the GB to testify????????

  by notoneoftheboys in

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  2. child-abuse

  can you help me here is what i have asked correct?

  this means a serious issue faces the gb, but odds are they will not attend!

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  Heaven - That says boat loads to everyone, JW or non-JW.

  You have that right. I think not showing up is way, way worse in terms of how it reflects on the organization and its leadership than manning up and accepting the chips as they fall.

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  The Australian: Women to 'Never Rule' in Jehovah's church

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/women-to-never-rule-in-jehovahs-church/story-fn3dxiwe-1227470092202.

  august 4, 2015 annette blackwell.

  a jehovah's witness official says the church's stance to never let women hold decision-making roles compares to muslim and aboriginal people adhering to their own ancient beliefs.

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  done4good

  Good quote from Hitchens, Heaven.

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  The Australian: Women to 'Never Rule' in Jehovah's church

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/women-to-never-rule-in-jehovahs-church/story-fn3dxiwe-1227470092202.

  august 4, 2015 annette blackwell.

  a jehovah's witness official says the church's stance to never let women hold decision-making roles compares to muslim and aboriginal people adhering to their own ancient beliefs.

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  ToesUp - I have worked and associated with women that could run circles (intelligence/financially) around these "men."

  Overall, some of the most capable leaders I know of are women, (I include in this my wife, CIO, and others). Generally, more sound decisions are made without the extra shot of testosterone.

  FWIW, as bad as WT is, there is almost no way this issue would exist if the organization were ran by women.
  

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  A Letter from the Governing Body?

  by ListlessWitness in

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  bit long winded i know, but how about i save the ol' gobod some work and lay it on the line for them?

  anyone got any wt headed paper?.

  dear brothers.

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  done4good

  Well written.

  The reason it would never see the light of day, is that it does two things:

  1. It is a tacit admittance of dealing with these cases improperly in the past, which would no doubt would cause major upheaval in the organization, especially for those directly affected by the crime.

  2. It creates a major slippery slope enabling the dismantling of the entire judicial process, and one of the cornerstones of what keeps the organization from collapse.

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  Many thanks to Simon. This RC Commission is the 'magnum opus'

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is when all the pieces of the puzzle come together.

  many thanks to simon for creating a forum which allows us to get a clear sense of what is happening.

  without this forum i would still be wandering in the wilderness.

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  Btw, being a statistics guy, I would be curious to know just how much activity this site has had over the mean since this RC started.

  Simon, do you have that information available? It would speak to the effect something such as the RC has on the psychology of people, provided the sample size is large enough. Our sample should be sufficient for a fairly accurate "read".

  d4g