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  Gas prices today & the book study

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all remember, one of the main reasons for removing the bookstudy was the high gas prices, well, have you looked at the gas prices today?

  nationwide, the lowest is about $1.65, the highest is about $2.67.

  isn't that right about the same gas prices as when they cancelled the bookstudy in the first place?

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  The announcement to eliminate the book study was made in 2008. At the time, gas prices were a convenient excuse since gas was $4/Gal./US.

  Of course that was bullshit, since prices quickly receded to about $2/Gal./US by the time the book study was actually discontinued.

  I have stated consistently that the elimination of the book study was a turning point for the organization, and was done for one reason and one reason only, money. Less meetings per week = less need for KHs and allows for their sale and subsequent cash flow upstream. It is that simple.

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  Correlation decline JW numbers and JW broadcasting?

  by Gorbatchov in

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  2. friends

  i read some impressive figures here about the decline of the jw numbers in 2015.. could there be a correlation between this decline and the start of jw broadcasting?.

  hence, that there would be an negative impact because the gb is standing so nearby, you can experience the idiot reasoning of their doctrines sitting in your own living room?.

  the lett effect?

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  It's called a positive feedback loop. Positive feedback loops destabilize any entity they exist in.

  1. Initial apathy of membership, (largely due to the organization being very out of touch), leading to less funding, and subsequent changes, (such as wacky things like JW broadcasting).

  2. Those changes to varying degrees cause more apathy and malaise, and = less funding still.

  3. Start begging for money regularly, and people close their wallets completely, exacerbating the money problem even further.

  4. Goto step 1.

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  Do you need Art and Music in your life?

  by The Rebel in

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  music and art have been a big part of my life since i was a little boy, and although i was never able to play a decent guitar, i can paint.

  my art teacher from college said " i was the most imaginative and constructive pupil she had ever had.

  " i loved that comment, because in translation i realised it meant i had to work harder than other more naturally talented students, but the effort was always worth it.

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  Yes, both. Music and other types of art are a healthy way of rebooting the mind...I don't play any instrument, (I wish I did), but do write poetry, and draw a level of inspiration through listening and appreciating others' work.
  

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  Since you left, have you become more moral?

  by Coded Logic in

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  2. family

  respect.

  sympathy.

  gossip.

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  In terms of the narrow-minded, (and incorrect), definition of "morality" according to the WT...No...thankfully!

  In terms of being an intellectually honest person that makes every attempt to not cause harm to others, (actual morality)...Yes.

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  Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories?

  by adjusted knowledge in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my wife is taking a literature course at a local college.

  this was her final topic of the semester: why rational people buy into conspiracy theories?i automatically thought of this site and of jws.

  the jws i knew, were the kind of people that would believe in conspiracy theories, and i noticed a small following on this site.. the article that was referenced for this course was: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?_r=0.

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  It takes a certain level of intelligence and an ability to realize that more than one element is involved in producing any outcome. It also takes a certain level of patience and willingness to realize we do not understand everything, much less directly control everything, and that a certain degree of stochastic processes assist in determining any outcome. Conspiracy theorists tend to look for overly simplistic, causative reasons for particular outcomes. This type of thinking is almost always wrong, as the universe is not that simple.

  Unfortunately, our culture enables, encourages and rewards this type of thinking. We often hear about the merits of the KISS principle, for example. What we almost never hear, is the other side of what is required for "keeping it simple", to actually work. Answers need to be complete enough to explain all possible observed aspects of any outcome. If they are too simple, facts either get ignored or purposely left out due to cognitive biases. Conspiracy theories always lack explanation for at least some parts of any outcome.

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  Liquidation sale of RBC assets

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  got this very interesting email last night and i thought i'd share it.. this is from the local rbc.. "in harmony with our new ldc form we have been asked by the branch to liquidate all current assets of used tools and materials once owned by the rbc.

  you are invited to visit the equipment trailers to acquire items being liquidated by the rbc asset team, these items will be offered on a first come bases with voluntary donation.

  if you see any item you like please be in position to take it with you at that time, after you return to your congregation then you will make a donation of cash or check in the congregation contribution box designated for the support of the worldwide work.

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  This just in...the new LDC is so full of Jehovah's holy spirit, that kingdom halls will build themselves!

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  Are Jehovah’s Winesses “Fundamentalists” and “Fanatics”?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently ive posted on fb a meme where a two pairs of hands held open a bible and the quram side by side.

  then i wrote on it:.

  (faith + fundamentalism) x (hate + propaganda) = legitimation of intolerance and violence.

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  Of course, having a conversation like that with a JW will yield little more than a convoluted, rationalized response. A believer is incapable of applying logic in the same manner to their beliefs, as they do in other areas of their lives. Intelligence and critical thinking are compartmentalized.

  Yes, JWs are both fundamentalist, (as they choose to take much of their particular ancient writings literally), which only could follow that they are fanatical. They very idea of taking such ancient writings literally whole or in part, is fanatical in of itself.

  JWs don't have to kill to be fanatics. They believe their god will do that for them, which is just as evil by proxy.
  

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  Blondie's Highlights from 11-15-2015 WT (FAITH)

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  blondies highlights from the 11-15-2015 wt study (september 15, 2015)(faith).

  excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

  wt publications http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm (old).

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  blondie-The important thing to them is the CARROT, everlasting life on a paradise earth in good health surrounded by your loved ones. Nothing gets in the way of that, they will endure just about anything for that promise.

  Thank you, Blondie for putting up with reading this stuff weekly...I know I could not.

  
  As far as the above is concerned, I wonder how much of this really is just fear, not hope. Most JWs that live "normal" lives I think care less about some future world that they deep down know does not exist. That thinking is mostly reserved for those that have nothing to begin with, (which of course, is why WT tries very hard to keep people uneducated and in a desperate state). However for the "normal" majority, I believe they are simply too fearful of what might happen if they open their eyes.

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  No more printing of WT and Awake in my country.. Shit just got real

  by cognitivedizzy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  guys .

  a letter was just read in out kh stating that all printing of wt and awake is ceased for the coming year and we will just place tracts on fs, countries which were cared by our branch will be cared by other countries...along with this they read the new fs form and stuff about reporting links of videos wtf..lol.

  i can't tell which country perhaps that will give away a lot, any one with a similar information.

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  committeechariman-Just a note here. WTBTS could easily form another kind of legal entity to allow them to operate in India, they just will have to pay taxes on income. Instead of viewing this as a cost of preaching the good news, they folded. Gives some insight into the real motivations IMO.

  Their business model does not support taxation. Taxation is 100% anathema to their ability to finance themselves. Remember what they did in 1990, with the so-called donation arrangement. Ironically, that "donation" arrangement is the very reason they are now having a host of other financial issues, however was initially done to avoid taxable status, which likely would have bankrupted them much shorter term.

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  Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!

  by lsw1961 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.

  but some left the organization.

  however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..

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  lsw1961 - But here are many people like me still enjoying the countless benefits of JW system by being right in its midst supporting its good contributions, yet not being part of its evils. This is a great feat of balancing act which you people can be envious of (which you prove yourself by desparately accusing me for the sake of accusing—saying I am campaigning for some organization other than JWs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  
  

  Stop being such an evasive coward and answer my question...Or get lost!
  

  
  

  Would you give the same pass to Christendom on its evils? I patiently await your qualified answer. (Although I expect none).

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