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  What Good Are Watchtower Apologists To This Site?

  by minimus in

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  personally, i like them here.

  they provide themselves a purpose to make lurkers question the "apostates".

  that's fair, imho.

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  done4good

  Like I said, I believe the WT. is sponsoring their being here to provide disinformation.

  I dunno. But I tend to think the WT is too naive to understand the wealth of collective knowledge we have at this site, which could also be used to argue why they may be trying to use this method. They probably vastly underestimate the apostate's ability to present the facts, hence assuming that some bethel "wiz kid" could handle it. It probably wouldn't happen if Franz, (Fred), was still around, as most of the doctrine was his anyway, and he would probably fear the facts comming out.

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  Do you learn from negative people?

  by free2beme in

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  i heard once a comment or quote that said something to the affect,.

  "do learn from negative people, is to lower yourself to their thinking and to learn from their vast years of mediocrity".

  with that said, i think it pays sometimes to reflect on who we listen too in our life, and more important, who we strive to please and be life.

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  The key is to learn from them rather than wallowing in them.

  Precisely. Something almost impossible for most jws, and perhaps one of my biggest gripes when I was the org. I just could not get the "persecution complex" that so many seemed to have.

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  Why I write...

  by Jerohobobonadad in

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  hello all, been lurking a few weeks, decided to post..... i am mid 20's, male, unbaptised, 3rd generation, elder family etc.

  a number of years ago, in the name of intellectual honesty, i decided to research religions to make an informed choice before being baptised as a jw.... there was not enough time (and i was too uninterested) to look at other religions seriously, so i figured if jw is the "truth" then it should be able to stand any criticism.. is it just me or is it all a load of old bollocks?!.

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  Welcome!

  Do the research yourself. Bullocks is probably about right.

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  What Good Are Watchtower Apologists To This Site?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  personally, i like them here.

  they provide themselves a purpose to make lurkers question the "apostates".

  that's fair, imho.

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  From what I can see, they are their own worst enemy, and the biggest witness against their own arguments. I say let 'em stay.

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  Do you learn from negative people?

  by free2beme in

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  i heard once a comment or quote that said something to the affect,.

  "do learn from negative people, is to lower yourself to their thinking and to learn from their vast years of mediocrity".

  with that said, i think it pays sometimes to reflect on who we listen too in our life, and more important, who we strive to please and be life.

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  Excellent post free2beme.

  The JW mindset teaches its members that such negativity is actually positive to such an extent that they dont even realise how negative they actually are; they are taught to soak up as much negativity as they possibly can (earthquakes, pestilence, people being faint out of fear blah bloody blah) in order to appreciate 'Jehovahs' so called blessings. Its no wonder so many suffer from depression as a result of being a witness.

  Very, Very true.

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  My mom calls to chew me out about my college... YIKES!!!

  by FreedomFrog in

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  so, i was happy and celebrating because of getting good grades in my courses, well i get a call from my mom.

  at first the phone call was just "hi, how are you" then she laid into me saying my "problem" (meaning my divorce) was because i was putting my education first and not jah.

  she goes on to tell me that the "talk today" was about people murmuring as israelites and bad things happened to them.

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  I would not DA myself just yet. As was stated, you will likely be exchanging one set of problems for another, that may last much longer, (perhaps permanently). Relatives do tend to calm down after given some time. I don't know how long this has been going on, but try to be the bigger person and gut it out if you can. OTOH, if we are talking about an abusive situation here, you need to draw the line in the sand, and take whatever measures are necessary to stay healthy.

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  My brother has many problems

  by Butterfly32 in

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  my brother and i were raised as jw, were both adults now and non believers.

  my brother has many problems, he has no identity of himself, he is on drugs, he has no plans for his future, no plans for higher education, he never expresses himself, he doesnt show his true feelings.

  i feel that he is a victim of being in a jw cult.

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  In this situation professional help is a must. But encourage him to look into the falsehoods of the organization. This will at least aid him in his recovery, as he will begin to see that he is not failure, and the problem does not originate with himself, but the organization.

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  JW doctrine aside, where has your research of Christianity taken you to....

  by evergreen in

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  i felt i would ask this question in the friends forum as it seems to get the most viewing.

  my question is this.

  leaving aside your research of what you have found out about the organisation and focusing more on your research of the "christian faith".

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  While I would agree there is good counsel in some of the New Testament, it seems clear to me why most of Christianity does not focus on the OT. Too many contradictions, and the god of the OT appears to be someone very different from the one Jesus preached about. That inconsistency, was very troubling to me. A further examination led me to the conclusion the Christianity was little more than a reform movement for the Jewish system, (Pharisaical law was very oppresive). A few accepted it, most did not. It only became something "divine" when the gospel accounts were written some years later.

  Bottom line: It moved me away from religious beliefs altogether.

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  FLUFF- Whats your guilty pleasure song?

  by Asheron in

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  i was driving home today and elo's "mr. blue sky" came on.

  i sang my ass off (closed windows of course).

  whats your guilty pleasure song?

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  Ever hear ELO's version of Roll Over Beethoven? In my opinion, it's the best version and the string arrangement is damn wicked.

  Yes. Excellent album (ELO II).

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  Here is my story

  by Annie Over in

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  i think i was about 3 yrs when my mom started studying.

  raised in a protestant religion.

  she had said several times that all she learned in that religion was hell fire and damnation.

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  Welcome Annie!

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