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  This will be a GREAT organization!

  by Kensho in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when...... 1) we follow christ example not the gb.

  2) stop df'ing those for challenging current or past doctrine and allow us to use our god given gift of reason and free wil.

  sure kick out the scumbags even the lions club have rules for membership, but not those who just use their brains and consience.. 3) get rid of the nonsensical blood teaching that has cost the lives of thousands and beg god for forgiveness.

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  Impossible. Everything you mention is incompatible with an authoritarian high control group.

  Stop dreaming.

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  Android or iPad? Help please.

  by Xanthippe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it seems i am going to have to teach people to use a tablet as part of my job and i don't even have one!

  any advice would be most helpful please.. i keep reading blurb on amazon etc and now i'm really confused.

  what should i buy?

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  I own both, and engineer network support systems for both OSs, (iOS and Android), such as VPN, UC apps, etc.

  For day to day "it just works" stuff...Ipad. iOS generally has better commercial application availabilty for some reason also.

  If you have to run some one off applications that require with dealing with a lot of "non-Apple" stuff, (like dealing with limitations associated with wireless AP distances and so forth), Android might be a better choice, since fixes for bugs associated with those types of problems seem to be a bit more forthcoing from Google than Apple.

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  Do You Like or Dislike Algebra? Why and Why not?

  by Scott77 in

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  july 28, 2012is algebra necessary?by andrew hacker .

  a typical american school day finds some six million high school students and two million college freshmen struggling with algebra.

  in both high school and college, all too many students are expected to fail.

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  Breakfast of Champions -I'm taking Calculus right now. . . .

  And you would think where I'd get hung up is in all that fancy calc stuff like derivatives, and derivatives of derivatives . . ..

  But nooooooo. . . . . . all of those concepts I've got down pat.

  Where do I always screw up? In the friggin algebra!

  Drives me absolutely mad!

  I know what you mean. Took algebra in HS, just slipped through one year, did pretty good with Algebra II for some reason the next, but struggled again with it as an undergrad in college.

  I did not take calculus until I became a grad student. Since I get the concepts of calculus, (such as limits, and what they mean), I had no problem whatsoever getting an A, even in advanced calc and several courses dealing with calc and stats. But the algebra part of it still drives me batshit crazy.

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  The INTJ Personality Type, (and those close to it)

  by done4good in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am compelled to write a bit about this at this late hour here in the us, because it is keeping me up.. the recent four year old thread on the briggs myers personality type test that was dug up, produced an interesting finding.

  many here, (at least tested informally for), the intj personality type.

  intjs also do not understand irrational behavior particularly well at all.. why does this matter?

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  done4good

  From what I understand of MBTI, your type does not change. As some have said, mood and other factors could affect the results though. One's ability to be 100% honest in answering also plays a significant role.

  I would imagine it would be very difficult for a JW to actually take this test and be 100% honest with themselves. The same would likely hold true for someone who recently exited. I think if I were to have taken any MBTI test either while in or even after 2 or 3 years out, I likely would have been an ISTJ. My natural ability to use abstraction has always been part of who I am, but the practical part of my personality was just too dominant from all of the "practical" conditioning from the org. I likely would have provided conditioned answers. No more.

  It took me several years being out to fully realize that potential.

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  The INTJ Personality Type, (and those close to it)

  by done4good in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am compelled to write a bit about this at this late hour here in the us, because it is keeping me up.. the recent four year old thread on the briggs myers personality type test that was dug up, produced an interesting finding.

  many here, (at least tested informally for), the intj personality type.

  intjs also do not understand irrational behavior particularly well at all.. why does this matter?

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  Very good comments all.
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  The INTJ Personality Type, (and those close to it)

  by done4good in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am compelled to write a bit about this at this late hour here in the us, because it is keeping me up.. the recent four year old thread on the briggs myers personality type test that was dug up, produced an interesting finding.

  many here, (at least tested informally for), the intj personality type.

  intjs also do not understand irrational behavior particularly well at all.. why does this matter?

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  Fraz-

  I completely agree that it is an uncontrolled test, and therefore not scientific. Any evidence is anecdotal at best.

  That said, there is a signifciant correlation, (not causation), between posting here and the NT personality type as represented by Briggs Myers. That, in of itself is worth at least some examiniation. This is how a statistician would view a correlation coefficient somewhere in the .3-.5 range.

  That is my point.

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  The INTJ Personality Type, (and those close to it)

  by done4good in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am compelled to write a bit about this at this late hour here in the us, because it is keeping me up.. the recent four year old thread on the briggs myers personality type test that was dug up, produced an interesting finding.

  many here, (at least tested informally for), the intj personality type.

  intjs also do not understand irrational behavior particularly well at all.. why does this matter?

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  done4good

  I am compelled to write a bit about this at this late hour here in the US, because it is keeping me up.

  The recent four year old thread on the Briggs Myers personality type test that was dug up, produced an interesting finding. Many here, (at least tested informally for), the INTJ personality type. This is significant, because even if many who took the test and recevied this result, did so somewhat inaccurately, it still does not negate the fact that many have similar personality traits that do not fit in well with what most humans "do". INTJs make up about 1-2% of the world population, and the fact that so many here tested out this way does matter. It is not a mere statistical anomaly. Anyone with a background in probability theory would understand this.

  INTJs may very well make rational decisions easily, be particularly good at seeing the "big picture", etc., but the reality is, they do not deal with irrational behavior well. That includes their own irrational behavior, that they themselves are sometimes are susceptible to. Contrary to what some light hearted material on the subject might state or imply, INTJs do have feelings, they just internalize them. INTJs also do not understand irrational behavior particularly well at all.

  Why does this matter? Because human relationships are not rational. They are based on emotions and intuitive hueristics. INTJs expect humans to deal rationally with each other at all times. Guess what, we don't. None of us do. For example, when we experience shunning from a loved one, (yes, INTJs do respond to love), it hurts like hell. We do not have a built in mechanism for coping with this other than our analytical skills, which are inadequate to understand this irrational behavior. So guess what, we spend much of our time on forums like this, researching, reading, meditating, and pain killing, (INTJs can be more prone to alcohol and drug abuse), to find an outlet and closure to the pain we are experiencing.

  I would like to once again stress the point, that a statistical anomaly is not what we are seeing in these results. JWs make up about .1% of the total population, and only a subset of that number leave. A much smaller subset of that number, actually care to do any research, and understand their past experience of being a JW, as well as curious enough to learn the big picture theoretical ideas that INTJs generally gravitate toward learning. It is very likely that the high percentage of this type we see in the results is consistent with the audience we are sampling. Hopefully, this provides some clues in better understanding ourselves.

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  What's your personality type? Myers-Briggs test

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  take this 72 yes/no question test to find out.. http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp.

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  done4good

  Edit to my comment: INTJ is roughly 2% of the US population.

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  What's your personality type? Myers-Briggs test

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  take this 72 yes/no question test to find out.. http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp.

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  done4good

  This is definately fascinating...INTJs are <1% of the population. I have not calculated the percentage of our sample, but this sample has to be close to 50%. This is not some statistical anomaly. There is a clear correlation bewtween this board and the INTJ personality type.

  Many, many JWs leave, and never research or even question anything as to why. Usually it is just gut instinct, then left alone. The problem with that is a person becomes vulnerable to returning without examining the reasons as to why they left, rationally. This really is not good news when we think about it.

  The upshot, we are clearly in the minority, and our friends and family stuck in are likely not going anywhere.

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  What's your personality type? Myers-Briggs test

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  take this 72 yes/no question test to find out.. http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp.

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  done4good

  INTJ