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  "We Already Forgive Him" - What Does That Mean?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
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  the children of one of yesterday's shooting have told the media that they have already forgiven the killer for what he did.. dylaan roof has not apologised for what he did.

  he hates black people and probably regrets not killing even more.. what does it really mean to forgive?.

  if the legal system asked the victims relatives what they want done next would they ask for dylaan to go free and unpunished?.

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  Forgiveness is about self-preservation more than anything else. It likely is a big reason why religion has the draw for many that it does, as religion usually builds this concept into its dogma. All part and parcel with a predefined moral code, so many look for in religious systems. It works great until it doesn't.
  

  There is a difference between "forgiveness", and accepting things and moving on. The latter requires a level of self-actualization that most people do not have, so forgiveness comforts them.

  I prefer to accept the damage and move on.

  Oh, and society has no use for people like Dylann Roof.
  

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  Nicest thing a JW has ever done?

  by aintenoughwiskey in

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  here is a change of pace, what was the nicest thing a jw has ever done for you or you have seen done?

  it wasn't all bad all the time!

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  They lose their moral compass. How else could anyone accept a system that believes shunning and allowing one's children to die for lack of a blood transfusion are good things? Only people that trade in their conscience to some degree for whatever consolation it brings them would do such things. They key is to what degree. Some are worse than others, but all are affected.

  Not sure how you left, but I know it took some personal hard knocks for me to wake up. I consider myself lucky because of that.
  

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  Nicest thing a JW has ever done?

  by aintenoughwiskey in

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  here is a change of pace, what was the nicest thing a jw has ever done for you or you have seen done?

  it wasn't all bad all the time!

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  Sparrowdown - The nicest thing a JW ever did?

  That JW would be me. Me being nice to other JWs who didn't deserve it.

  Truly, pearls before swine.

  Keep in mind that system dehumanizes people, (like all extreme religions). I know I am a better person since leaving. Most of us probably are. Just a bit of a reality check I try to give myself sometimes.

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  Nicest thing a JW has ever done?

  by aintenoughwiskey in

  1. jw
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  here is a change of pace, what was the nicest thing a jw has ever done for you or you have seen done?

  it wasn't all bad all the time!

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  I have mentioned this many times before. I have two dear JW friends that I owe both my education and career to. I would pay them back with anything they needed if it ever comes to it, even though I am still shunned by one of them. That one even allowed me to live in her house during a difficult period with my parents, when I started college. I will never forget that. I view them as better people than any family I ever had growing up, JW or not.
  

  Were it not for the way the organization dehumanizes beautiful people like the ones I mention above, I would not be on this site still. While I would love to see the WT crash and burn, all I really want is those folks mentioned above, out.

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  Contrary to News Reports the ZEAL is Still There

  by steve2 in

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  zeal has always been a valued word in the jw arsenal.

  even if you don't see it in your own local congregation, you keep hearing about it.

  "zeal this" and "zeal that".

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  Ugh... I hate that word. It's as old fashioned as "vigor & vim."

  Actually, in almost all other contexts I can think of, "zeal" has a negative connotation, almost always associated with extremism.

  Only in the backwards world of WT could "zeal" be a good thing.

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  WT October 15, 2015 - Don't believe Apostate Lies

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the last article in this new wt, shows me that the organization is dealing with much information that is damaging them.

  i am sure that the many recent lawsuits are being noticed by the r&f.. here are some gems from that article, titled the naive person believes every word.

  we must be very selective about what we consider worthy of our attention.

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  And what should you do if you find slanderous news about Jehovah’s organization on the Internet? Such material should be firmly rejected...

  What I clearly see in that statement is surrender. It used to be that the organization would dance around this subject, talking about the dangers of the internet, (usually with a reference to porn, almost never about apostasy directly). However, now it seems they are tacitly admitting that JWs see the critical information, because they know finding it is unavoidable. This is good news.

  For you lurkers, get off the Titanic while you still can.

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  What are you up to this summer?

  by Xanthippe in

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  i really enjoy hearing about other people's lives.

  feeling a little lonely this evening so please tell me if you have plans for the summer months.

  i may go to some outdoor theatre with my daughter who's home from uni; with a picnic and a bottle of wine.

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  Finishing my master's.

  Then one big ass party!

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  How do you manage to keep JW friendships after you left the organization?

  by Bonsai in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it seems incredibly difficult.

  those who leave the org.

  (or fade) no longer have anything in common with jehovah's witnesses, nor do they want to stick around to get radiated by the fear and guilt that saturates every aspect of a witnesses' life.. i've lost all but one of my jw friends quite simply because i can no longer condone the evil things that they condone.

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  A true friend is someone you can be your honest self with. If you try to be that true self after you leave JW, you will find out those friendships are conditional. It can be a hard pill to swallow.

  FWIW, I still consider some JW true friends, however those relationships are dormant at the moment because I will not compromise my self honesty. If they ever leave themselves someday, they will thank me for that.

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  What are the current rules about vaping from the GB?

  by purrpurr in

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  2. friends

  i mean e cigs and vaping.

  not even tobacco inhaling but inhaling other stuff like herbs etc.

  is this allowed?

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  done4good

  Nicotine is super addictive when inhaled directly into the lungs, vape or smoke. Not the smartest thing to do, carcinogens or not. I would hardly call it safe.

  I don't see anything unsafe about MJ vape. Actually, there is very little unsafe about MJ smoking when used in moderation for that matter, but that is another discussion, and probably one I should not be typing about while at work.

  Don't ever expect the GB to be anything more than reactionary to this type of thing. They are always going to default to what provides the cleanest "appearance", and nothing more. Don't hold your breath...(pun intended).
  

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  Hot topic in congregations: having a beard/goatee

  by nevaagain in

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  2. friends

  i am starting this topic because i was wondering, i see many who leave "the truth" are glad because they can finally have a beard.

  is having a beard really a no go in congregations?

  how is / was it in your congregation?.

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  done4good

  Like anything else, if they want to use it against you they will. This one just happens to have a higher probability of that happening than some other things, because of its "high visibility"...superficial shit at its finest, and typical WT.
  

  Just an anecdote:
  

  I remember back in 2002 we did a reno of our hall without the RBC, and it took about a month. There were no meetings during that month, other than the abbreviated WT studies. All of the elders, MS, etc. that could grow a beard or goatee did during that month.

  I also traveled a lot for work for several years, and often grew a beard when away. I kept it a few times, and always received compliments in the hall for it...especially from the ladies.
  

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