Gumbley

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  That Crucial Criteria guy rips off JWD's forum list

  by under_believer in

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  remember that guy from watchtower.cc who was in here the other day claiming that his site was "protected by a federal judge" and that he knew of a legal case where the "watchtower was going down?

  well he made his own forum at http://p072.ezboard.com/bwatchtowercrucialcriteria.

  lol... does that board list look familiar to anyone?

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  Gumbley

  Talking about Freemasonry does not violate any rules, and as for Zionism, what is wrong with talking about that? Why is it that Israel cannot be critisized but Arabs, Christians, or Patriots can and are almost always slammed?

  That is a double standard and reverse discrmination.

  Enlightened people know that Jehovahs Witness/WT are strange bedfellows to International Zionism and Freemasonry, but it is so taboo and controversial, no one is brave enough to allow discussion on it.

  So Israel is massacring palestinians and arabs, but because of the stigma...they cannot be called on it? This is obvious censorship and bias.

  the Watchtower is a Zionist front and Israel is genociding Palestinians as we speak. Enough bs. Deal with reality.
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  Judges Probed On Masonic Links - BBC

  by Gumbley in

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  wednesday, 26 september, 2001, 15:13 gmt 16:13 uk

  judges probed on masonic links .

  the justice minister is reluctant to back such a move.

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  Gumbley

  ooga booga is an English term.
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  That Crucial Criteria guy rips off JWD's forum list

  by under_believer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  remember that guy from watchtower.cc who was in here the other day claiming that his site was "protected by a federal judge" and that he knew of a legal case where the "watchtower was going down?

  well he made his own forum at http://p072.ezboard.com/bwatchtowercrucialcriteria.

  lol... does that board list look familiar to anyone?

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  Gumbley

  if the mods keep censoring my postings on Masons and locking my account, than yes, I will leave. I am getting tired of being censored and ridiculed by mindless people on here. Sleeping zombies with their heads in the sand. You people wanna know why I have so many ids? cause JWD keeps locking my account. I thought we left the watchtower because of control and censorship? what gives?
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  Judges Probed On Masonic Links - BBC

  by Gumbley in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  wednesday, 26 september, 2001, 15:13 gmt 16:13 uk

  judges probed on masonic links .

  the justice minister is reluctant to back such a move.

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  Gumbley

  why did that dude, with the really long name, have his post removed? Did it violate the JWD policy?
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  That Crucial Criteria guy rips off JWD's forum list

  by under_believer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  remember that guy from watchtower.cc who was in here the other day claiming that his site was "protected by a federal judge" and that he knew of a legal case where the "watchtower was going down?

  well he made his own forum at http://p072.ezboard.com/bwatchtowercrucialcriteria.

  lol... does that board list look familiar to anyone?

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  Gumbley

  awesome, looks like a found a new home where Freedom of Speech still exists. God bless the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
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  DO YOU KNOW THESE LAWS and their importance to refuting WATCHTOWER lies?

  by Terry in

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  the seven laws of noah are:

  1. belief in a supreme being and the prohibition of

  worshipping any other beings.

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  Gumbley

  speak for yourself. My God is not all about superstition. That is just nonesense. If you wanna believe that, than fine.
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  DO YOU KNOW THESE LAWS and their importance to refuting WATCHTOWER lies?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the seven laws of noah are:

  1. belief in a supreme being and the prohibition of

  worshipping any other beings.

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  Gumbley

  The commandment against using God in a worthless way is why the Jews don't even REPRESENT God in writing a word for him; hence the G*D. That is an effort at showing respect.

  3. The God of the Jews and the God of the Christians can't be two different Gods IF there is only one god to begin with. The only conflict is mental and that is why there are sects of Jews (and always have been) and sects of Christianity (and always have been).

  The dash in G-d..is nothing about respect and everything about superstition.

  What did Jesus tell the Jews?

  John 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

  Who slew the prophets and the Saints? Their own prophets at that.

  Can you have the Father without having the Son?

  If you are a Christian, the answer is an obvious no.

  1John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].

  In Judaism, there is no Son. There is only YHWH, whoever that is. In Christianity there is a Father, Son and Holy Spirit. His name is Jesus. Or if you prefer, the I AM THAT I AM who spoke to Moses.

  Now how in the world can you say that the Judaism and Christianity have the same God when clearly they do not.
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  Interesting news on Free-Mason Judges

  by Blue in

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  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/969317.stm

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  Gumbley

  Funny when people say that it doesnt matter about women's lodges like the Order of the Eastern Star because they do not belong to the official Masonic brotherhood. Neither do the Knights Templars who founded Freemasonry, or the Rosicrucian Order for that matter. It is a technicality that is no excuse. By the way....Am I reading this thread correctly? Originally posted in 2003? Wow!
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  DO YOU KNOW THESE LAWS and their importance to refuting WATCHTOWER lies?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the seven laws of noah are:

  1. belief in a supreme being and the prohibition of

  worshipping any other beings.

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  Gumbley

  The version of the Noahide Laws you have is slightly watered down. The real version is more stern.
  
  

  I see your points Terry but the 7 Noahide Laws are interpreted differently by the Rabbis, than they appear.

  For Example:

  Noahide Law #1 - #2 of no idolatry, refers to "G-d"...whoever that is. A very broad term.

  Under Talmudic translation the Christian God, is not the same "G-d" in the second Noahdide law.

  Ergo, Christians would be convicted under this law for worshipping Jesus as God.

  Establish courts of justice and only refer to the newly reinstated Sanhedrin. Rabbi Steinhaltz has a council of Noahide delegates to bring the Noahide Laws to the world.

  The Talmud also interprets the rest of the 7 Noahide laws differently. Some laws may be broken under certain circumstances, which I do not care to elaborate on here, as I will get smeared and labelled.
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  PASTOR RUSSELL on MASONIC connections

  by Terry in

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  (pastor russell dot com)in his own words...was pastor russell a freemason?.

  "there are certain conditions,the low gate, the narrow way, the difficult path.

  although i have never been a mason, i have heard that in masonry they have something which very closely illustrates this" ... "many masons shake hands with me and give me what i know is their grip; they don't know me from a mason.

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  Gumbley

  "Grand Sovereign Freemason Commander," Albert Pike writes:

  "Masonry...conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead."

  It is, in fact, the Cabalistic elements in Freemasonry that act as the main driving force in the envenomed and aggressive opposition of the latter to Christianity, and its never-flagging efforts for the undermining and destruction of the Christian organization of society. (Mgr. Dillon, The War of Anti-Christ with the Church, p. 20).