The overall theme of the book of Ezekiel is hope for the restoration of Israel. To give his people this hope Yahweh through his prophet Ezekiel speaks harshly against their enemies. Ezekiel, a mere man, writes these words for all to hear and we can read them in chapters 25-32. I think it would have been much more reassuring to tell my fellow chosen people that our enemies would be destroyed forever with their cities destined to be a rock never to be rebuilt. What kind of confidence would this have given the people if they had known that at some time the cites would be restored to a new glory. Granted, Tyre is not the place it used to be, but times have indeed changed. Yahweh did not lie, but he gave Ezekiel the power to bring hope to the people of Israel. Hope for a new restored nation with a new temple in which to humbly worship their God. Ezekiel is a book of encouragement. Yahweh punished israel for their sins, but because He still loved them and still had a future for them, they were able to return to their land as foretold.
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For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE
by Swamboozled injust got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.
i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!
http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm
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For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE
by Swamboozled injust got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.
i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!
http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm
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kgav8r
And i agree with you fully on that point, Tor. Like i said, a figurative interpretation is in order. I know there are problems in the Bible. I also believe that to focus on small, literal errors and to keep dwelling on them is to miss the point of the Bible itself. I have no hidden agenda. If 607BCE is disproved or proved, it won't make one lick of difference to me. It's not going to rock my faith. Of course, my faith does not depend on dates or any tangible evidence. Isn't that the difinition of faith anyway, believing in something we can not see bu know is true? I sometimes wonder if the WTS would crumble if they changed thier doctrine about 607BCE, but somehow managed to uphold 1914.
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For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE
by Swamboozled injust got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.
i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!
http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm
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kgav8r
Chill out all!!! Don't flame me. I take no sides in this debate. I am an innocent bystander. Like i said, i think i agree, but with this new light, i am going to have to say that i do not in full. It is all a matter of interpretation. Does Tyre exist as it did in Nebuchadrezzars time? No. Has it been rebuilt? Sure. If we want to assume a literal desolation as defined by the WTS, then we can only come to the conclusion that this time has not yet come. This, i believe, in no way violates biblical prophecy as we are not supposed to know when these things are going to occur. With that said, i do believe it is a little weird that it did not occur around 600 BC or so. Perhaps a figurative interpretation is in order. The bible is very poetic after all. Of course we have King James to thank for that. Not to say that the psalms or the other "writings" weren't already poetic.
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For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE
by Swamboozled injust got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.
i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!
http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm
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kgav8r
I am going to have to agree (at least i think i'm agreeing, not really sure at this point) with 3rdW. The prophecy of Tyre was fullfilled but not until 322 B.C. (or is that 302 B.C.E.) by Alexander the Great. However this gets us no closer to proving or disproving 607 BCE, if that is indeed the point of this thread. I believe the Bible is useful for chronology, but i think it was stated earlier that prophecy is not necessarily equal to chronology. I also do not agree with taking verses out of the context of their books. If i could always do that, i could prove who assasinated JFK!!!
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For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE
by Swamboozled injust got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.
i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!
http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm
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kgav8r
Regarding the prophets Ezekial, Isaiah, and Zecheriah, none were contemporaries of each other. So by my logic, if two agree, then one is wrong or at least not without errors. I believe this has been discussed in previous posts that ezekial may have had errant prophecies. I believe this to be a possibility.
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The JW dress code.....yuck
by JH inthis morning i took a long walk and happened to walk near by a small christian church.
and i could see them come out of the building after their meeting.
they were all dressed differently, some in clean sunday clothes, some in clean jeans, but no one in a suit like the jw's do.
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You know, two weeks ago I picked up my JW girlfriend after i got out of church. She commented on my clothes. I was wearing shorts and a decent shirt. She seemed slightly offended that i would wear that to services. I asked her if she thought God cared what i was wearing when i worshipped Him. She said yes, and that it was disrespectful. I'm with you JH, it doesn't matter what we wear, but what is in our hearts.
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Just stopping by to say Hello
by berylblue ini read the "woman in doghouse" article on yahoo, and i suddenly remembered - hey, i used to be a part of that sorry cult.. .
i almost never remember my days as a depressed, abused jw anymore.
there is life after the wtbts.
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Hi there!!!
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Complete Audio Recordings of 2006 DC Talks
by AlanF ini came upon the following link to a complete set of windows media compatible audio recordings of this summer's district convention talks:.
http://www.evanjhoush.com/wtb&ts/2006/deliverance.at.hand.district.convention/.
enjoy!.
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Quote from Download Site:
As many know we Jehovah's Witnesses hold several conventions throughout the world. This one was held July 14th,15th,&16th at the Leonard E. Merrell Center in Katy, Texas. Somewhat smaller than previous venues.
(bold italics mine)
Just thought this line was funny!
KG
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Not much, just saying hi.
by kgav8r ini've been gone for a week, so i'm having to do a bit of catching up!!
just wanted to say hi and that i am not one of the forgotten newbies who posts once or twice then loses interest and leaves.
looking back at what i have missed, i have to say that i have really enjoyed the 587 v. 607 discussion(s).
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I've been gone for a week, so i'm having to do a bit of catching up!! Just wanted to say hi and that i am not one of the forgotten newbies who posts once or twice then loses interest and leaves. Looking back at what i have missed, i have to say that i have really enjoyed the 587 v. 607 discussion(s). Maybe that's because i am a history buff. So, thanks to all who have and continue to help me with my situation and i look forward to continue posting and learning!!!
KG
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Night Owl or Early Bird?
by damselfly ini can't sleep, i'm usually up until 2 (or later) every night.......then the alarm goes off at 6:30 and i'm up to start my day.
i find that i'm more alert and productive in the night time, however i am sooo tired of not being able to sleep.
so how about you, night owl or early bird?
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kgav8r
I used to be such a night owl. Of course, i worked the evening shift and wouldn't get home until 0030 and would take a couple of hours to wind down. I'd wak up around 0830 or 0900 and get ready to cease the day! Now that i am on day shift, i can not stay awake past 2300. It's kind of depressing and makes me feel old :-[