dear friends:.
what a pleasure it has been to browse this website over the past couple of years...first as a lurker and then as a member.
i now intend to "come out of the closet"...blow my cover and tell you my story (and i'm sticking to it!).
Hi! Hadenuf and Candlestick02
The way you were both treated by the elders makes me so angry, but I can't say I'm suprised.
These elders were just following orders, like weak drones controlling weaker ones.
Glad to hear you're both getting on with your lives,
best wishes,
Dean.
got to be pataks, i think its from leicester, you cannot get more indian than that!
sharwoods is non indian fake.. i remember you could only get it in indian corner shops and i found them to be the most authentic, now we can get them in most major supermarkets in the uk.. i did bring a jar with me on a visit to some friends in america, the customs people took a bit of an interest.
i cooked what was probably the first balti in us history.
I always found Patak's to be a bit too rich for my taste, and Sharwoods a bit too hot with no depth.
Funnily enough I just made a chicken balti tonight and used an Asda own label cooking sauce.
Some of Asda's sauces are really naff but I find the balti one just right for me.
hi folks.
i have been registered for several months.. finally, i got on-line here visiting rayzorblade.
we tried several times to log on but we were definitely missing something.
Welcome Cherry (Jesse)!
hello, new member here.. i registered a couple of years ago, but my initial experiences here were not of the warm/fuzzy variety, which must have been what i needed at the time; so, i left.
recenty, a friend gently suggested that i might want to give interacting here a second try.. so's i don't have to type it twice, i offer here a hyperlink to my member profile.. although one might reasonably be named "cruithne" - especially if one is irish or scottish - it is not my real name.
well, of course it is my real name, in that i choose to be known by it.
Welcome!
just to let you know that the s2 has come back from london with my deletion on it, so i expect it to be announced on thursday, it will be interesting to see how "my brothers and sisters" treat me.
anyway with regards to my experience to the new format of elders meetings.... some of you may be aware of the change to the format announced at the the elders seminar 2002 and in the subsequent letter, regarding the handling of an elder whose child has been involved in serious conduct.. basically the change is that a special elders meeting is held, where the elder is questioned by the body on why he thinks his child got into trouble?
was it his fault?
It seems that the purpose of this is to put more pressure on elders to keep their kids in the religion.
In today's society, and among many ethnic groups, parents have begun to take a more laid back view of their children's spiritual path.
Imagine if JWs were allowed to do this! Even elder's kids are seeing the light and leaving in droves, and elders have perhaps been lax and not put up much of a fight.
Now, elders will fear for their positions to the extent that they will crack down even more severely on the poor kids.
Seems like 'fear' is the favourite way the GB uses to control their followers.
>one day god was looking down at earth and saw all of the inappropriate.
>behaviour that was going on.. >.
>he decided to send an angel down to earth to check it out.
From: [email protected] (Paul, A Servant Of Jesus Christ)
To: [email protected]
CC: [email protected] (Judaea Online)
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Subject: general teaching
Also posted to Usenet newsgroup alt.religion.heresy
Even using my off-line mail reader (Papyrus 6.2) the on-line and disk
space charges on my local dial-up Internet provider are outlandish,
so I'll have to keep this short. :)
IMHO, the wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the
godlessness of men. }:>
U, therefore, have no excuse to pass judgment. God will judge all.
BTW, Jews have no right to boast simply because of our ancestry.
Circumcision :( is meaningful only if it is inward -- otherwise,
BFD. Similarly, IBM owners have no right to boast simply because of
the customer support they receive. In Him we are neither IBM nor
Gateway, Tandy nor Compaq.
None of us is righteous. As King David wrote:
KD> There is no one righteous, not even one;
KD> There is no one who understands, no one who seeks
KD> God, no one who has not illegally copied his
KD> favorite game program for a friend.
But Abraham believed God, and so God credited it to him as *virtual*
righteousness.
But does this mean we should sin all we want? No way!
We must live through the spirit. The law kills O-|-< but the spirit
gives life. Offer yourselves as living sacrifices to God. Submit to
the authority of your sysop and your Usenet newsgroup moderator. Pay
for shareware if you decide to keep using it. And don't flame
somebody for making a spelling error or failing to read the FAQ list.
Nothing is unclean to God, but if something is going to cause your
fellow Christian to sin, delete it from your hard drive. Watch out
for those R- and X-rated .GIF files.
I'm hoping to visit Rome later this year; save me a space on the
couch. CUL8er. :)
XXX Papyrus 6.2 XXX Unregistered Test Drive Version XXX {RAH}
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hi guys.
i need the first song number of the service meeting listed in the august 2003 kingdom ministry for the week of the 25th.. .
hehe .... lets kick some jw - connect ass.. thanks in advance, guys..
Week commencing August 25th is song 175.
If you ask Valis nicely he'll let you know how to view the latest KMs online!
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looking for a quote from the wt where they condemned 24 churches for becoming ngo.
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As regards their quote about religious support for the UN, it's interesting what they missed out. The full quote is available here:
http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com/united_nations.htm
Prayer, meditation and spirituality at the UN are fascinating subjects. All major world religions are accredited to the United Nations as non-governmental organizations. For example, no less than twenty-four Catholic organizations are represented at the UN. Several of the world's religious leaders have visited the international organization. Most memorable were the visits of His Holiness Pope Paul VI during the General Assembly in 1965 and of Pope John Paul II in 1979. Many religions have special invocations, prayers, hymns and services for the United Nations. The most important examples are those of the Catholic, the Unitarian-Universalist, the Baptist and the Bahai faiths.
In the paragraphs before they use this quote it is made quite clear that it is being used to show that being an NGO of the UN means rejecting God's Kingdom:
9 Today, Jehovah's Witnesses warn that a flood of executional armies will soon sweep over Christendom. Moreover, they point to the true place of refuge from that flood. They quote Isaiah 28:16, which says: "This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: 'Here I am laying as a foundation in Zion a stone, a tried stone, the precious corner of a sure foundation. No one exercising faith will get panicky.'" Who is this 'precious cornerstone'? The apostle Peter quoted these words and applied them to Jesus Christ. (1 Peter 2:6) If Christendom had sought peace with Jehovah's King, Jesus Christ, then she would have avoided the coming flash flood.-Compare Luke 19:42-44.
10 However, she has not done so. Instead, in her quest for peace and security, she insinuates herself into the favor of the political leaders of the nations-this despite the Bible's warning that friendship with the world is enmity with God. (James 4:4) Moreover, in 1919 she strongly advocated the League of Nations as man's best hope for peace. Since 1945 she has put her hope in the United Nations. (Compare Revelation 17:3, 11.) How extensive is her involvement with this organization?
tonight i posted on hippikons thread about what type of sex are you having ?
and it got me thinking .....how important is sex to a relationship ?
what are your thoughts , is it possible to have a stable marriage without it?
I know how you feel, NWS, as I'm in a similer predicament myself.
I've been married for 18 years but for about the last 2 sex has been non-existent. I haven't had sex since a year last Christmas. The last time my wife and I made love I looked at her and saw a look of complete disgust and utter contempt on her face. I knew that I could never make love to her again unless she instigated it. She never has.
I think, for me, I'm getting to the end. Short periods without sex, to overcome problems, is OK. But I don't want to be celebate for the rest of my life which looks likely if I stay married. Sex may not be important to her but it is to me.
So I am actively considering ending my marriage (which is only a technicality anyway since our 'marriage' effectively ended when I stopped being a JW). I feel utterly miserable all of the time, being stuck in this stagnent relationship is poisoning my entire existence.
It hurts. It's gonna be scary. And I feel sorry for my kids. But I can't see any other way forward but to eventually separate.
the forum is moving rather slowly so i figured i'd spice it up a little.
so i'd like you to give any random thoughts you have pertaining to the topic
here's my contribution: an intellectual is a person who has discovered something more interesting than sex.
You have a 36% chance of dying during sex.
Shit!
On the other hand, not having had sex for nearly two years (my wife is a frigid JW bitch) I'll probably live forever (or will it just feel like it?).
