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  Hello All!

  by JessieeMay in

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  hi guys i am new to this forum.

  i admit to being guilty of lurking for a few days.

  i really love this forum.

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  Welcome to the board!
  
  
  
  
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  Will the brothers at Brooklyn Bethel answer my questions?

  by Benny Sikter in

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  dear friends,.

  can i use your email address to discuss with you?

  i really want to hear your reply to these questions:.

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  I seem to remember that the answer to these questions relies on the fact that Adam was perfect when he sinned. According to the Society, a perfect creature doesn't make 'mistakes' so any sin by them is a knowing, deliberate and wilful act of defiance against God. So there can never be forgiveness for a perfect creature that sins.
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  How to resign as an elder?

  by IT Support in

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  does anyone have any tips how to resign as a jw elder without being disfellowshipped or disassociated?.

  thanks.. ken

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  You don't say if you have family or not Ken. But from the fact that you wish to avoid DF'ing or DA'ing I would surmise that you have.

  Pleading family commitments or health issues are probably the only honourable ways out of elderhood. You don't really need to tell the body of elders the details, say it's personal, but you will need your immediate family on your side. Even with those you need to tread carefully as spouses and children are encouraged to report aberrant behaviour (aka Orwell's 1984).

  It's not going to be quick or easy. I wish you luck.

  oh, and welcome to the board!
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  Who are the A/As on the board?

  by starfish422 in

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  not alcoholics anonymous, mind you.

  :) atheists/agnostics.

  i know there are some of us here; who's with me?

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  When I left the JWs I was a vehement atheist for many years. I?ve mellowed a bit since then and would describe myself as an agnostic. I think it?s arrogant to insist that you know one way or another. I just can?t take any religion seriously but spirituality fascinates me.

  Basically I want to believe in a God, sometimes I?m desperate to, but He?s having trouble reaching me. I really envy people who have a strong faith ? life is so much cosier when you?ve got an all-powerful friend who will eventually sort things out. I pray now and again, just to check, but all I get is static.
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  Mental health issues

  by YellowLab in

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  how many of you have experienced or are experiencing any mental health related issues?

  were/are any of these issues related to you being a jw?

  do you feel many dubs still in "the truth" have mental health issues but are afraid to seek treatment from a "worldly" psychologist or psychiatrist?.

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  I did have serious depression just before leaving the JWs, it was when I realised that my whole life until then had been based on a lie. So I left the religion, changed my job and tried a whole new outlook on life. I haven't had depression since then (about 15 years)...until now:

  I've had a lot of serious shit happen to me lately, mainly marriage, employment and finances all going pear-shaped.

  Last week I couldn't function for a couple of days, I just felt like crying all the time, though I was sleeping OK.

  I went to the docs and he put me on Prozac. The trouble is I do feel better now but don't know if it's the meds or that I'm starting to cope anyway.

  Since taking the prozac I have felt really dozy during the day but unable to sleep at night, and my appetite is reduced.

  I'm thinking of stopping taking them - my reasoning is that if I get used to using them I'll need to keep on forever, because as soon as I stop and the drug wears off I'll just feel down again. So I need to find a way of coping without drugs.

  Has anyone else had experience with prozac? Good or bad?
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  Today's useless fact

  by dmouse in

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  in my wanderings around the net yesterday i came across this interesting piece about childrens' involvment in the crusades.

  i often think there are historical parallels between certain events and the way that the wbts treat the youths under their influence, for example the hilter youth movement.

  sea did not part and let them walk across, as stephen had.

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  In my wanderings around the net yesterday I came across this interesting piece about childrens' involvment in the Crusades. I often think there are historical parallels between certain events and the way that the WBTS treat the youths under their influence, for example the Hilter Youth movement. The part that the Churches played in encouraging youths to sacrifice themselves during the middle ages also reminds me of the way that youths are encouraged to sacrifice their lives on the alter of pioneer or Bethel service.

  What do you think?

  The article:

  What happened to the kids who went on the Children's Crusade?
  
  The Crusades of medieval western Europe became progressively
  uglier as centuries passed; gold and lives were squandered, and
  yet the Crusaders were no closer to wresting the Holy Land from
  the infidel Muslims. In 1202, Crusaders ransacked Christian
  churches and Eastern European villages, much to the embarrassment
  of the Church and their communities back home. Morale in western
  Europe was at an all-time low.
  
  It was in this atmosphere that two young boys emerged from the
  countryside of western Europe to act as God's warriors. Stephen
  was a young shepherd boy from Cloyes, France. Devout and eager,
  he claimed to have received a message from Jesus that he was to
  walk to Jerusalem and crush the infidels. Stephen soon managed to
  attract thousands of French boys to his cause, all hoping to
  change the world and right the wrongs of the Crusaders before
  them. Parents cried and begged them not to go, but church
  officials, by many accounts, fully encouraged these youths in
  their quest.
  At the same time, a similar scene was being played out in
  Germany. Nicholas, a local peasant boy from Cologne, said he had
  received specific instructions from a cross of lights in the sky.
  He manageji to gather at least 7,000 young people to his cause.
  Like lambs to slaughter, the two groups of unarmed children
  marched off to reclaim the Holy Sepulcher.
  
  It's a toss-up for which group fared worse. Most of the German
  children either froze to death or slid off the mountains trying
  to get through the Alps. The French children suffered from
  disease and hunger during their long march. When they reached the
  Mediterranean Sea, they were disappointed to discover that the
  sea did not part and let them walk across, as Stephen had
  prophesied. Finally, seven ships were supplied by two rich
  merchants to carry the boys across the the Mediterranean. Two of
  them sank in storms with 1,400 children aboard. The other five
  reached land on the other side but nowhere near the Holy Land,
  alas. The sailors had changed course to Egypt where they sold the
  boys into slavery. Many of them were put to death when they
  refused to convert to Islam.
  
  Meanwhile, the German children who survived passage over the Alps
  split into smaller groups, each looking for the passage to
  Palestine. Some arrived at the Italian port of Genoa with no
  means of transportation. Others just disappeared into the
  countryside to fates unknown. Of the thousands that set out from
  France and Germany, only a hundred or two were ever heard from
  again. Some historians theorize that the tale of the Pied Piper
  of Hamelin - who magically led an entire German village of
  children away, never to be seen again-was an allegorical history
  of the parents' and villagers' deep sense of loss over their
  children who went off to the Children's Crusade.
  
  ~source used: "Just Curious, Jeeves"
  by Erin Barrett & Jack Mingo
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  Welcome mortons68!!!

  by iiz2cool in

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  in going through a few threads, i noticed someone new among us!!

  hope you enjoy the board, and feel free to share your story with us!.

  walter

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  Welcome mortons68
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  Hi I am Caspians sister and this is my first day here.

  by Lainey in

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  hello this is my first post and i wanted to introduce myself so here goes.. my name is lainey, and i have not been to the meetings for about 4 years now.. i am 28 and work as a doctor in a big city university hospital as a sho.. also for my sins, i am cassies little sis, and i am staying with him for a little while, as i am signed off sick for the next month with a stress related disorder.. after the death of my older bro and my dad within the past few months, i started suffering from terrible nightmares, most of them connected in some way to my witness upbringing.. me and cassie have talked for some length and he suggested that i spend some time having a look on this site and meeting others who have had similar issues to face in life.. i hope you are all are better listeners than cassie, who tends to fall asleep when i am in the middle of talking to him.

  (brothers!!!

  ) btw he hates being called cassie lol.. anyway i am not a big talker, so i probably wont post a lot, however i am going to scout around for a while.. thanks .

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  Howdy doodly do Lainey!

  
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  Another Poztate here

  by Poztate in

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  i am a long time lurker who is finally ready to talk.i am not dfd or da but just walked out on a meeting back in 1981?

  ?what caused it???.

  it was the flip flop in the disfellowshipping rules regarding family.

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  Hiya Poztate!!

  
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  Hello everyone, im new :)

  by Atomar76 in

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  hey everyone, im new haha.

  my name is tom and i live in adelaide, south australia.. and i was bored and i searched for jehovahs witnesses hoping to find something to amuse me and i came across this forum and i thought it would be for like actual jehovahs witnesses (are there still practicing jw's on here?

  ) but your all like df or just like ones that have left... and well so am i!

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  Big welcome to Tom and Frank!