Posts by LisaRose

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On the Relevancy of The Institutionalization of Sin

by Perry in

child murder, sodomy & corrupting the human genome are not new sins, they are old ones.

what is new is their institutionalization.

but even that isn't totally new.

LisaRose

TIM 310RD
It is crucial and I'm a big fan/advocate of the first amendment, however Internet bullying is already a crime

Is it? I see bullying on the internet every day. Can you site a case where someone was arrested simply for being a bully? I do think there is a fine line between harassment and bullying, but just stating your opinion, however offensive that is, is not a crime. It's only when that opinion is consistently directed to a particular person, especially if it is due to race gender or sexual orientation that it crosses the line and becomes a crime.

Which of the following do you think should not be a crime?

Bullying and cyberbullying can become a crime if you:

Physically assaulting someone
Harassing someone especially if the harassment is based on gender or racism
Making violent threats
Making death threats
Making obscene and harassing phone calls and texts
Sexting
Sextortion which is sexual exploitation
Child pornography
Stalking someone
Commiting hate crimes
Taking a photo of someone in a place where they expect privacy
Extortion

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Try Other Religions

by Sofia Lose in

sometimes i get a strong curiosity to start dabbling into other religions, other faiths, you know?

really different ones such as islam, judaism, hinduism, etc.. has anyone here looked into something else?

has your spirituality been satisfied by any other than christianity?.

LisaRose

My daughter looked into Buddism, but there was an extreme Buddhist that was pushy and just as narrow minded as any JW, so no. I tried a liberal Christian Church, nice people, I saw some benefits, but since I don't believe in God it was hard to see the point.

Have you tried meditation? It's like the best part of religion, without the woo. It's been scientifically proven to lower blood pressure and decrease anxiety and depression.

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On the Relevancy of The Institutionalization of Sin

by Perry in

child murder, sodomy & corrupting the human genome are not new sins, they are old ones.

what is new is their institutionalization.

but even that isn't totally new.

LisaRose

mendments can and have been repealed. If public sentiment coincides with Washington agenda, the First Amendment could be replaced. It seems as if public sentiment is already heading in that direction. I'm not predicting that it will happen, but it's certainly possible.

No, it really isn't. The first amendment is crucial to our country, it will not be amended. You may have been one who hated the ACLU for championing causes you found to be distasteful, but they will be the first people to step in and defend you for exercising your free speech. No Washington agenda could stop free speech, nor would anyone who wants to repeal the first amendment ever get elected to attempt to drop so.

Sorry, but this just seems like sour grapes,because your opinion is now not the majority and you don't like that.

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Jehovah's witnesses owe much to the catolic church

by TheWonderofYou in

jehovahs witness owe the bible to the catolic church,the church was the authority that put the bible together, and jehovahs witnesses owe the name jehovah a catolic monk.

jehovash witnesses owe the catolic church the sowing of the field where they are now preaching.. otherwise after leaving the jw i got a much better understanding of christianity and the cc..

LisaRose

They used to single out the Catholic church for the worst scorn of any other Christian religion, and with good reason, a lot of their converts were Catholics. The church has some issues, but they are in no way the corrupt religion they made them out to be. Now we know that the Watchtower has their own pedophile issues it makes their accusations all the more reprehensible.

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Slow motion pioneers

by 1Averagejoe in

observing our local unemployed pioneers and how long they take to get to their first or next call, usually taking the longest route to get to one they know won't be there anyway.

along the way it's gossipy this and that.

pioneers?

LisaRose

Wow, good ion you for finding a way to do actual good in the world, despite pioneering. Thumbs up!

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shunning

by pepperheart in

if a jw on a trolley knew that other jws were shunning you would they talk to you to tell you to stop taking literature from a trolley ??

?

LisaRose

I doubt they would say anything, for one thing it would make them look like a crazy cult to the public, for another they could count it as a placement.

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On the Relevancy of The Institutionalization of Sin

by Perry in

child murder, sodomy & corrupting the human genome are not new sins, they are old ones.

what is new is their institutionalization.

but even that isn't totally new.

LisaRose

t may not be long before words are criminalized. "Hate speech" is being denounced more and more. Donald Sterling is one example where the majority of people (rightfully) denounced his words. Many others have denounced the "hate speech" of anti-gay groups and the Westboro Baptist Church.
I'm not defending any of what these groups/people say or stand for, but there has been a lot of talk in the media about censuring "hate speech". If this concept gains popularity, it wouldn't be long before "free speech" is no longer free.

Nonsense, there is the little matter of the constitution. What is discussed when people talk about hate speech is similar to what Donald Trump experienced. He made some very racist remarks regarding people from Mexico. He has not been arrested as far as I am aware, but he there have been repercussions, as businesses try to distance themselves from him. That is certainly their right, just as it was his right to say what he did. I disagree with his remarks (which were not only racist but completely inaccurate), but I would defend his right to say what he believes.

Denouncing is one thing, forbidding is another.

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On the Relevancy of The Institutionalization of Sin

by Perry in

child murder, sodomy & corrupting the human genome are not new sins, they are old ones.

what is new is their institutionalization.

but even that isn't totally new.

LisaRose

If there is no God why should you worry,

I don't.

or if your conviciton is that we are free to do whatever crosses our heart why feeling attacked?

Who said we thought we were free to do whatever crosses our heart? Just because we reject bible morality does not mean we reject morality. It's frustrating that so many believers repeat this nonsense, as if they cannot understand the concept of morality without God.

want to point to a more grave problem related to sexuality. Worldwide some 40 000 000 humans are killed by abortion each year. This is very immoral in my eyes and unmatched in history.

I am sorry you feel that way. I do not equate a few cells that could be a human with an actual human. I fully support your right not to get an abortion, I just don't support your right to push your version of morality into others.

There is much blood being shed in the name of liberty and freedom. If people would respect the law of the Bible this misery would be prevented to a high degree.

And if people quit thinking their religion was the only path to salvation we could stop 90% of all wars. That would end a lot of misery right there.

The concept of sin is more and more rejected by most, to the point of criminalizing those who dare to say that same-sex relations are wrong in the eyes of the God of the Bible.

Who said anything about criminalizing words? We all have free speech, I have seen nothing saying we don't.

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Teenage Jehovah’s Witness refuses blood transfusion and dies

by mana11 in

http://www.jwblood.org/teenage-jehovahs-witness-refuses-blood-transfusion-and-dies/.

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LisaRose

Jehovah's Witness parents should not expect the courts to automatically step in and save them by forcing a transfusion if that's what they secretly want, they need to tear up their child's blood card and clearly state their wishes in an emergency.

As far as 10K deaths due to lack of blood transfusions, I believe that number is wildy overstated. There have been a rash of discussions about the number and I'm not going there again, but I don't believe it's anywhere near that. Even one is too many though.

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Candace Conti Settles

by Nitty-Gritty in

hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

but it's all quiet here.

are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

LisaRose

My question is, how exactly has the organization clearly shown no interest in protecting or assisting in the protection of children?

Let me count the ways.

Two witness rule.

Appointing elders when there have been multiple accusations of child abuse in the past.

Pressuring victims not to go to the authorities and "bring reproach" on Jehovah's name.

Blaming the victim. They actually have a form that asks what the CHILD did to cause the ADULT to molest them. You know, because five year olds are such hussies.

Disfellowshiping people because they insist on telling.

Pretending such a thing is almost unheard of while secretly maintaining a list of 56,000 names of accessed molesters.

Standing by while an admitted child molester marries a woman with children and threatening the victim's mother for being concerned and warning the woman he married. (Personal kowledge of this one).

Forcing the victim to recount the molestation in front of the perpetrator, thus victimizing them again.

Treating child abuse as any other sin, as if it's no worse than two teens having sex out of wedlock. Once a pedophile is reproved or reinstated they're considered forgiven, free to molest again with no one the wiser.

Settling out of court and demanding non disclosure agreement so the Watchtower can continue to pretend they don't have a problem.

Disfellowshiping young girls for fornication because they didn't fight off their adult abuser.

I count eleven ways