LisaRose
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Know a single JW man? I would like to see my JW mom marry again
by JimmyPage inmy mother is old enough that i don't want to burst her bubble by telling her ttatt.
i keep my mouth shut about what i know so that i can continue to have a relationship with her.
my father died a few years back and i would love to see her marry again.
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LisaRose
It's really hard for older women in this organization to find a decent guy. At her age there are just not enough single men to go around, which means she would probably have to settle if she was desperate to get married. Personally I would rather be single in her circumstances. Why don't you just get her a cat? -
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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.
by The Rebel inso i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
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LisaRose
You obviously didn't bother to read my post, I thought I gave a pretty good explanation of why. I have to agree with everyone else, you are lazy and this thread is over, I won't waste any more time on it. -
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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.
by The Rebel inso i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
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LisaRose
) So WHY did Bush NOT explain WHY it would take 15 years with 21st tecnology to return to the moon, when it only took 8 years to accomplish this achievement with 1960s tecnology.
Maybe because he assumes that anyone interested in the subject already knew the answer to that question. It's not exactly rocket science, lol.
They are trying to do more than just land on the moon and plant a flag. They are looking to put people there for several months, so they need a bigger ship to transport all those supplies, and time to design and build everything. Nasa doesn't currently even have the kind of rockets that would get us out of the earth's orbit. And of course all this takes money, there is only so much in the budget.
Full explanation here :
http://m.space.com/7015-40-years-moon-landing-hard.html
By the way, it took me exactly two minutes to find this information.
B) Why to my knowledge was this question not raised by journalists at the press conference?
Maybe because they, being good journalists and not lazy, had already researched and knew why.
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i made my sister cry :(
by BlackWolf inso lately i've felt so frustrated and overwhelmed that i had to tell someone how i felt.
my parents were gone so i decided to talk to my sister.
we've always been close so i thought i could trust her because we have talked about it before.
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LisaRose
I think you need to back pedal a bit. Just tell your sister you are stressed out and was just talking things through, you didn't mean to upset her, and you hope she will understand that you aren't sure of anything right now.
You need to keep things to yourself until you are completely ready the speak your truth. You will know when the time is right. Confide in a non JW friend, or vent here on JWN.
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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.
by The Rebel inso i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
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LisaRose
I was thinking about this today. A few years after the moon landing some peoole in the Nixon administration broke into the Watergate building in an attempt to dig up dirt on the democrats. Not only were they caught, they couldn't even hide that fact that Nixon knew what they were doing, he was forced to resign.
So we are supoosed to believe the government that couldnt carry off a simple burglary was able to plan and implement a fraud of monumental proportions that would have had to involve thousands of people, and not only were they able to carry it off, in the many years since then not one person involved ever came forward to talk about it, and furthermore, Russia, who we were in a cold war with at the time, and who would have been able to expose the fraud, said nothing either.
As I said, people will believe what they want to believe.
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Dealing With ANGER!!
by kairos inlittle help i'd like to pass on from another cult survivor to me.. not jw but a violent, physically captive indian cult.. she says on anger:.
it's the longest lasting emotion with have.. it takes at least 90 seconds for it to run it's course once we stop.a lot can happen in 90 seconds, and some of the most horrible exchanges and actions happen right after the anger first manifests itself.. we're experiencing fantastic results by just going for a very short walk ( 90 seconds out in the yard or other room ) before continuing the conversation.. when my wife and i come back together we can smile, embrace and congratulate each other for avoiding a horrible day.. before it even becomes anger, wait 3-5 seconds before making your reply.
slow it down!!
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LisaRose
There is a scientific reason for this. The primitive part of our brain responds much faster han our more developed brain. This is what causes road rage, any shock or threat activates our primitive brain, and the fight or flight response. This is why people who are normally passive can do something very shocking and out of character for them. As time passes the more logical brain takes control.
Breathing is a good way to gain control. Try breathing in slowly for eight seconds, holding your breath for eight seconds, then breath out slowly for eight seconds.
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badly handled from Elders
by Olivia Wilde ini am still attending the kh, i actually recently became aware of the ttatt, what i believed came as a huge surprised for me, i wasn't raised as a jw and have been for about 15 years.
i have always been a very open minded individual all my life always seeing both sides of any situation with logic and common sense and so i believe discovering all of the doctrines i have been taught sense 16 years of age, wasn't extremely hard for me to realize in my heart it was a lie.
well it was me discovering the watchtower society being a ngo member of the un nations for 10 years, after that the snowball just got bigger for me.
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LisaRose
Welcome, I am glad you know tatt now, so you don't have to put up with this abuse. Nothing I hear any more surprises me about the people in this religion, I have come to believe that not only are Jehovah's Witnisses not better than people from other religions, they are often a lot worse.
If the elders question you, just tell them that Jesus said you would recognize his true followers because of the love they have amongst themselves. Since you have not been shown love by them or this person you can only conclude that they are not true followers of Jesus, so you are going to treat them as being disfellowshipped by you.
Be prepared in case this crazy person continues to try to abuse you, you may have to get a restraining order.
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So I was enjoying a business trip in down town Bangkok...............Next thing BANG!!!
by cantleave inso last night i was having a wonderful meal in a very nice restaurant when we heard what we thought was a loud clap of thunder.................. it was a bomb.
yards from my hotel.
thankfully i made a few decision that meant i wasn't in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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LisaRose
Glad you are OK, that was a bit too close for comfort.
So sad for those who were affected.
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JW to SDA anyone do it ?
by Introvert 2 ina couple friends pointed me to some info on the sabbath and i just plain like it, being the workaholic i am it's a lifesaver for me and gives me the motivation to be more balanced about my business and work schedule.
so from there i looked into the adventists and found a hall near my place and went last week.
i honestly enjoyed myself and the meeting time is not disruptive and the people were great and pretty laid back.
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LisaRose
My grandson is SDA (long story). There are some similarities and some differences. I think they are more mainstream, not anti education, not as strict about things. It doesn't appear to have hurt him any, he went on missions to built churches in Mexico, went to SDA school all twelve years, he turned out a good kid. He wants to be a minister, but the SDA college was way too expensive, so he joined the air force to get tuition expenses. His long term goal is to have his own non denominational church, which tells me he isn't hung up on the SDA as being the only path, which makes me happy.
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Need someone to talk to
by Anonymous17 inhi i've been a jw my whole life and i'm 17 now.
i've never had a mine of my own and recently i started thinking more open minded and i know the being a jw isn't for me.
i feel like i've been in a bubble my whole life.
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LisaRose
A lot depends on your circumstances. Are your parents really strict JWs? Are they loving parents, but just misguided by the religion?
Are you still in school? If you are a senior in high school, start making plans to go to college. Contact a guidance counselor and see what it will take to get an education. Most of us didn't go because of being JWs, it's something you really need to do if you want a good job.
You may have to wait until you are older before you can leave the religion. Start preparing now for when you can be your own person. Obey your parents but earn as much as you can about the religion, so that you know what to say if your parents don't understand why you do not want to be a JW. Make sure it's for the right reasons, not just that you want to do things they don't allow, but because you don't believe it. It's important to be clear on that. If you just want to party, then your parents will not be OK with that and it will make it harder.
Once you are a legal adult you can tell your parents that you are not going to be a JW. They may be upset, but there is little they can do if you are resolute. It's your life after all, they chose their religion, you didn't.