That's the problem with fading, you don't realise that you will change and grow when you leave, but your family and friends won't. Eventually you change so much you can't really have same kind of relationship.
LisaRose
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Do you find it hard to be around active JW's now?
by EdenOne ini do - actually, it's become close to unbearable.. and herein lies the paradox: i tried to fade in the illusion that i might keep contact with family and friends still "in".
was it worth it?
because not only most of them shun me anyways, but i find it almost unbearable to be around them, especially when the cult chit chat kicks in: every cute animal video clip triggers endless comments about glimpses of the future paradise and how "god did it"; those greasy praises to the organization and the governing body; the dumb awe about every jw broadcast and those cheesy music videos; the endless drivel against other religions when one knows perfectly well that we're no better than them; the endless flow of "experiences" of field service or spectacular conversions into "the truth"; the relentless congregation gossip; and so on .... i ask myself: is this why i am fading for ...?
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If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future
by DJS inscotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.
by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.
updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..
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LisaRose
Does gay marriages open the door to bigamist, polygamist, and practicing bestiality?
This is what is called the "slippery slope" logical failure. Or is it the "false equivalency" logical failure? I'm not sure, maybe it's both. Do you actually think they are equivalent? If so then I feel sorry for you.
Now that you mention it though, would the self righteous jail bird issue marriage licenses for polygamy if it was legal? It is in the bible.
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If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future
by DJS inscotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.
by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.
updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..
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LisaRose
So you believe in marriage according to the bible?
For some reason I can't post a picture via url, here's a link for better version.
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If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future
by DJS inscotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.
by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.
updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..
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LisaRose
How to shut up Kim Davis supporters who cherry pick scriptures to justify discrimination.
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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...
by Stumpy ini've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.
you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!
what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.
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LisaRose
It's really great that you managed to get your wife out, that's not always possible, so good for you. Thanks for your research, I keep your notes handy in case I get a chance to talk to some in my family.
Lisa 🌹
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Jesus was historical, and inspired too!
by iconoclastic injesus said something that only our generation could provide an avalanche of proof.
he said: it is easier for a camel to get through a needles eye than for a rich man to get into the kingdom of god.
(mathew 19:24).
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LisaRose
It's easy to blame the wealthy for the world's problems, but it's simplistic and wrong. For example, global warming happened because of our dependence on fossil fuel, and everyone that drives a car contributed to this problem. In fact, many rich people are attempting to find ways to solve this problem, Bill gates, for example. If you are concerned for the environment, stop blaming and start doing your share to fix it. If everyone took responsibility for their own actions we could substantially cut our green house gases.
A few things we as individuals can do:
The next time you purchase a car, get one with the best gas mileage possible. There are several cars that run alternative fuel or that get really great gas mileage. My husband drives a Jetta diesel that gets 47 mpg. He also takes mass transit to work. Just think how much gas would be saved if everyone did this.
Think about what you use and buy on a regular basis. For example, bottled water is very popular. People are more health conscious and are drinking less soda, and bottled water is cheap and convenient, but it's not such a great thing for the environment. Each bottle has to be manufactured which uses fuel, then it has to be transported using more fuel. In most cases it's simply tap water that has been filtered. I use a reusable bottle and fill it with my own great tasting tap water, I save money and the environment. That ten dollars a month that I save not buying tap water I put in a college savings account for my granddaughters.
Reduce, reuse, recycle. I have an antiques business, so I frequently shop at garage sales, flea markets and thrift stores. Thrifting isn't for everybody, but you can save a lot of money by buying used. I buy not only antiques, but supplies for my business, clothes for myself and things for the house. It always amazes me when people get rid of things that are still usable, many times never used or worn. . Clothes that were never worn, furniture that just needs a simple fix, or things they just bought without thinking. This is not only stupid from an environmental standpoint, but is a waste of money.
Of course every one should recycle, but you can help the environment even more by only buying what you need. And when you don't need something anymore, donate it or sell it on Craig's list.
Why by CDs and DVDs when it's so much cheaper and better for the environment to use streaming services, or purchase online. Why buy books when you can get them from the library or in digital format?
Research corporations to find those that are doing more for the environment and give them your business. Become knowledgeable about environmental issues and tell others. Write your current congressman and vote for those who are sensitive to environmental issues.
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Homo sapiens is also missing (let alone the missing links in between)
by iconoclastic inthe word sapiens (from latin, meaning wise) when applied to humans as final evolute, it is understood that humans manifest wisdom in their day-to-day living.
one of the features of being wise (which means having/showing experience, knowledge, and good judgment) is about replacing wastages with something better.
is this being done with regard to many of the greater aspects of our lives?.
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LisaRose
I wasted two whole minutes of my life in a futile effort to make sense out of your ridiculous post. I want that time back.
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A passing thought when driving past an inactive JWs place today.
by joe134cd ini'm going to tell you of a family i knew of when growing up as a jw.
she was a solo mother who had 2 daughters and these 2 daughters were absolutely stunning both physically and personailty wise.
i remember thinking at the time how commendable it was that such beautiful looking women would choose to stay in the organisation.
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LisaRose
I think that sometimes when people leave the Jehovah's Witnesses, it's not because they realize it's a lie, it's because they do not want to conform to the JW way of life. In that case, their leaving is a negative thing in their life, one that does not end up well for them.
Sadly, they are used as an example of what happens when you leave "the truth", not an example of what happens when you make bad decisions. The mind control that is part of being in a cult sometimes affects people long after they leave the cult.
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interesting stuff re the RC in my local area
by umbertoecho ini was sent a list of places i could contact in my part of wa.
i was cautious.
i always ask if they are jws.
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LisaRose
I am glad you had such a good response from the royal commission. I am sure there will be many come forward because of this. -
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True believers never save their money
by stillin init's an article of faith.
either god is going to save them or he is not.
since one local elder proudly told me that he never saved a nickel until just before his retirement, i've given this subject some thought.. savers are worldly..
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LisaRose
Many people live as if there will be no tomorrow, but it's irresponsible that an organization encourages them in this stupidity. I never bought that attitude, after the run up to 1975 I decided that it would be smart to save for my retirement, just in case. If they were wrong once, they could be wrong again. Unfortunately I lost a lot of my retirement due to a stock fraud and my company going under, but I still have more than most people my age.
My parents had a secure job with a small house provided for them (in a very nice area of multi million dollar homes) as caretakers for a wealthy woman. Their duties were light, they could always hire others for anything that was too much for them, and I doubt they would have ever lost their home as long as they were alive, but no, they had to go somewhere else where they could spend more time in service. All they had $500 and social security. They moved four times in the next five years. Fortunately my brother had a rental home, he took a loss so they would have a roof over their head.
The organization is irresponsible to pretend that armageddon is imminent and there is no need to save money, and of course they won't help out when the people who took their advice turn up destitute. Naturally, if people do manage to save anything for retirement the organization is happy to take their cash when they die. Hypocrites.
