It sounds like torture to me.. It's not a requirement that the defendant be present for his trial, if he isn't behaving he should be sent back to jail, not shocked. I've seen them used on dogs, it's only effective when the collar is on, once the collar is off the dog is worse, not better, and I wouldn't even use it on a dog, much less a person.
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Shock belt to control defendant?
by little_Socrates inskeen also ordered a shock device be placed on calvert for security reasons because of his unpredictable behavior, legal officials said.
on sept. 15, when calvert did not stand up at the judge's request, skeen had an electric shock administered on the defendant that caused him to twist in pain before the jury, local tv broadcaster kltv reported.. .
http://news.yahoo.com/questions-raised-shock-belt-used-texas-murder-trial-112021293.html.
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help me to readjust my thinking about my hypocritical ex....
by losingit ini am really struggling with this particular situation in my life, and i really need your help to readjust my thinking.
i am recently divorced from my ex-jw husband.
we were both disfellowshipped at around the same time about 2-3years ago.
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LisaRose
I don't know why he refused to do things with you that he now does by himself, but this religion does strange things to people. You often get this dynamic when people are struggling with the harsh requirements of JW life, hot one day, cold the next as the cult personality waxes and wanes. Maybe you wanting to do things outside of the religion aroused his cult mind control and he wasn't ready to go there yet. Maybe he wanted you to be the good little JW wife so he could be the bad boy. Maybe he is a narcissistic, selfish jerk who cares nothing about anyone but himself. hard to say, maybe he doesn't even know
For whatever reason he has abandoned all restrictions and is now doing whatever he feels like without the burdens of marriage and fatherhood. Even though you are loney you are better off without him, trust me on that. You can now meet someone without the JW baggage. But don't be in a hurry, focus on your children and your job, figure out who you are, then you will know what you want in a partner.
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Does Anyone Still Believe in God?
by LaurenM indo any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
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LisaRose
I lost faith in the God of Jehovah's Witnesses when I left them, but still thought there was a possibility that some kind of God did exist. I was content to leave it like that for about eight years at which point I found JWN. After reading many posts by atheists and others I stopped believing in him or her altogether.
For a while it seemed a bit of a loss, I envied those who still believed, as it seemed to help them get through life somehow, even if God was only in their imagination. I missed spirituality and even attended a liberal church for a few months in hopes of finding it there. Gradually I came to prefer the uncomfortable truth rather than the comfortable lie. Now I feel I have gained back my spirituality, but a better spirituality based on truth not fantasy. I have hope for the future and am enjoying my life very much. For me spirituality is in every moment of connection between two souls, in every beautiful sunset, in every thing I create, in every great meal I cook. I don't need anything more than that.
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Offended by JW letter targeting obituaries
by betterdaze inlocal father offended by jehovah's witness letter, claims its writer is targeting obituariesjacksonville, fla. a local father who wishes to remain anonymous sent action news jax a copy of a letter sent to his family's church.. the letter read in part: "sorry about your loss.
i read about it from the obituary.
jehovahs witness literature was attached to the letter.. in a time when a family is grieving they need to be surrounded by family and friends.
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LisaRose
It's the same as chasing ambulances, using someones personal tragety to advance their own agenda. Of course they think they are doing them a favor, but they fail to realize that other people have their own faith and deeply held beliefs and may be comforted by the thought that their loved one is in heaven. The JWs are in effect telling them that they are not really in heaven, just dead, and if you want to see them again you just have to become a JW. It's offensive to say the least. -
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Calm Down Everybody, We Will Know Soon Enough
by OnTheWayOut inseriously, they will change the midweek meeting ever so slightly.
it is just repackaging of the same old stuff.seriously, we don't know if construction is halted for days, weeks, months, forever, or what.. we don't know if new kingdom halls will still go up, old kingdom halls will be closed and sold.
they have laid off bethelites before and they will lay them off some more.
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LisaRose
This seems like a chink in the armour of an organization that has never seemed to show any weakness before, speculating is irresistible.
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I just called Brooklyn Bethel about construction shut down
by Watchtower-Free ini just called brooklyn bethel service dept.
they said they had not heard anything about a worldwide shut down of construction.
i asked if he had heard about london bethel shutting down construction.. he said no that it was a surprise to him.
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What is the most bizarre counsel you received as a JW, from a JW?
by Funchback inthere were many addressed to me.
for example, i once had a sister tell me i was gambling because i liked playing skill crane (the machine where you have to try to pick up prizes like stuffed animals) at the arcade.
i then fired back a her: "you saw the r-rated movie 'backdraft.
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LisaRose
I had a dimwit who told me you should be careful what you wear in the living room because the government spies on people via their televisions.
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Another ruse?
by Pistoff incould the stopping of construction be just another ruse to squeeze money from the rank and file?.
it will certainly generate buzz like nothing else..
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LisaRose
Yes, it's shocking they would abandon a project like that. We had a situation in our little town where the city was going to use redevelopment funds to build an apartment building with retail on the ground floor. The recession hit, the state withdrew all redevelopment money and the city did not have enough to finish the project. Halfway built, it sat unfinished for five years. The city was finally able to sell the land for one million, but they had put five million into the project, so it was a huge loss.
If they sell the land they may or may not get back what they put into it, depending on if the potential buyer can adapt the finished parts to their needs, but unfinished work is not really a selling feature.
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Help Me Undertand...
by DarioKehl inaccording to the 2014 annual report:.
"worldwide, there are 115,416 congregations of jehovahs witnesses and 8,201,545 publishers.".
i don't understand how the borg is facing financial difficulty.
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LisaRose
I would be tempted to think they are hiding money if they hadn't abruptly stopped building projects that they started only a year ago. Unless it's some big charade to shake people down for more money, it's just not cost effective to abandon half built projects and it makes them look like they don't know what they are doing. It makes you wonder if their is some scandal that is going to come out shortly that might cause people to leave and/or stop contributing and they are conserving cash to ride it out.
Maybe they sent all their cash to a Nigerian Prince.
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A simple explanation for the financial changes
by JeffT inas i've mentioned from time to time, i'm a retired accountant.
i have tried many times to come up with some logical, sound business reason why the wtbs has made the big changes in its financial arrangements: taking the congregations savings, the monthly donations per congregation etc.
i finally came up with the answer.. the leadership of the watchtower society is batshit crazy.
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LisaRose
They should have cleared a wack of cash from the sale of the Brooklyn properties, but they are not acting like they are sitting on wack of cash, they are acting more and more like they are tettering on bankruptcy. Congregation cash grab, begging for money, now this. Even when you factor in child abuse lawsuits and dwindling contributions, it doesn't account for this level of desperation. You don't halt projects right in the middle, it leaves you with an unsellable, half finished property, plus you lose the cost all the materials you purchased. What changed that much in a year?
Maybe it's just a temporary cash flow issue, or maybe they have some hits on their investments, or maybe there are lawsuits we don't know about, it's hard to say. Not everything go through the courts, the Conti case cost them plenty, not just in money, but bad publicity, maybe they are being forced to settle some large claims because they are afraid more publicity will get back to the rank and file.