Yes, and fifteen years on I am still trying to learn not angst. I think in my case in was innate, but nurtured by the JW brainwashing. It's not as simple as just knowing there is nothing to angst over, I know in my head there isn't, but my mind still goes there.
LisaRose
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Angst and the Jehovah's Witness Mindset
by cofty inthere is no typical jw personality type.. any of us who were in the religion for a number of years will remember all sorts of individuals.
there is as much variety among jws as there is in the general population.
some were arrogant and judgemental but others were humble and kindly.
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JW anti-gay children movie viral in Netherlands national media + official reaction of JW spokesman Branch office
by Gorbatchov invarious dutch (netherlands) media mentioned the anti-gay children movie on jw.org,.
and gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual organizations are shocked, and some gay people.
are reporting the movie to the local police.. the official spokesman of the dutch branch office in emmen declared that the movie is.
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LisaRose
I haven't the stomach to watch this bit of nonsense, but doesn't the video show the child being told to tell her friend with two mommies that they won't be in the paradise? They are attempting to recruit their children to teach their hateful beliefs, that's as public as it gets.
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“Even if this wasn’t the Truth, I need the structure.”
by Londo111 ini remember many years back a fellow ministerial servant saying this to me.
he felt that even if jehovah’s witnesses were not the only true religion, the regimented routine of meetings and field service and the strict rules and enforcement provided a beneficial structure for his life.
at the time i thought if this wasn’t “the truth”, i’d have no need for all that “structure”.
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LisaRose
Imagine that, people can have a great life without an oppressive religion telling them what to think do and say. Good for you!
I think when people say things like that what is really going on is that they are really just afraid of change and are afraid to examine things too much because they would actually have to make uncomfortable decisions. If you can discipline yourself to attend all the meetings, go in field service, give up holidaays, etc., you could do anything else you put your mind to.
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The new kids video is going viral, and it angered the Elf-Mom
by Captain Schmideo2 insaw this in my fb feed today... .
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LisaRose
They really advised children to tell their classmates with gay parents they will die at Armageddon? OMG, that is wrong on so many levels. It's just cruel to tell a child their parents will be put to death by God, what is the child going to do with that information, even if it were true? It could even could be classified as hate speech and result in repercussions for the child from the school. It shows a complete lack of sensitivity to the beliefs and feelings of others. Would JW parents want their children's conservative Christian classmates to tell them they will go to hell for not being saved?
Unbelievable.
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Were you beaten as a child?
by purrpurr ini've been confronting my mother with her dubious parenting skills (abuse) of me as a child.
particularly the beatings i would get with the wooden spoon.
not a light smack but hitting me as hard as she could for as long as she could.
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LisaRose
Children do not need to be spanked to be taught to behave, they just don't, it's not even really that effective. I spanked my kids, although not very much, but if I had it to do over again I wouldn't. Hitting, especially in anger, just shows your child that you can't control your temper and that physical violence is the way to solve things, why would you want to teach them that? It is so much better to model good behavior, be consistent, kind but firm. It may take more time and effort, but it's so much better for the child. There are other forms of discipline, time outs, taking away privileges, extra chores, whatever.
My grandson was a strong and determined child a real handful. I was concerned when my daughter said she was never going to use physical punishment, but she was right, he turned out to be a fine young man.
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Please I have a question about GNLD INT'L COMPANY
by COLLINS inplease i want to read about experiences of those in this forum regarding those who have worked with golden neo life international company (gnld).
i was searching for job and a man saw me and asked me whether i can do a job that would take me from two years to five years.
so i said yes to him; and he took me to a company called gnld.
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LisaRose
Very few people ever make money in multi level marketing. It's heavily stacked to favor the first people to join. If you are a real top-notch sales person, a real go getter and don't mind hitting up your friends and family for business and leads you might make some money, but the reality is the vast majority of people in MLM make less than $300 a month.
My feeling is why should I buy soap (or vitamins, or whatever) that has been marked up enough to pay for lavish sales commissions, vacations or fancy cars for the people at the top? They may be good products, but they are never special enough to justify the inflated costs no matter how much they have been hyped. And many of them use the same recruiting tactics as a cult. My ex husband used to join every MLM scheme that came down the pike, he had dreams of getting rich with little work, but he never made any money at any of them.
Your friend who is telling you that it's a good deal is making money off your purchase of the sales material, so can you really count on him to tell you the truth? Will he tell you how much the average rep makes (not just the lucky who do extremely well)?
They are very little better than pure pyramid schemes in my book. All pyramid schemes make money for a few peoole who jump in at the beginning, but they are all doomed to fail because there are only so many people dumb enough to invest in pyramid schemes and even if every person invested in them they would still eventually fail because there are a finite number of people in the world.
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Bad things happen in spiritual paradise
by wannaexit ini bumped in this story this afternoon.
it's about a family of jw's.
it's an unbelievable story of murder that took place in 2014.. so much for spiritual paradise.. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dateline+tangled.
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LisaRose
I think many JWs are convinced that "the truth" has the miraculous ability to change people. The reality is that JWs are no different than people in other religions, or even people in no religion. You can brainwash people into going to all the meetings, doing the study, going out in service, even earnestly praying to God, but it doesn't change what people are, not really.
Most people have a tendency to minimize their bad behavior and justify it in their own mind, but then there are some people who are just evil and it doesn't matter how many hours they spend at the Kingdom Hall, they are going to do what they are going to do. The sad part is they usually get away with it because most JWs live in denial and don't recognize evil when they see it because it wears a suit and says all the right things. That's why child molesters get away with it so often and for so long.
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what era do you feel like your starting out from?
by sowhatnow inanyone else feel like they were just woke up from a long coma?
or emerged from a time capsule?.
i mean seriously, its rather creepy and disturbing , some of us are at sea without a compass .. like an orphan, like someone said, , heres a birth certificate go find yourself.
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LisaRose
Hi LisaRose
Missed you, good to see you back.Well, I never really went away, but I've been busy with my business and haven't been commenting very much. I am astounded anyone missed me, so thank you, Mark of Cain, I'm feeling all warm and fuzzy now.
Lisa 🌹
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No historical evidence for bronze age men living to 500yrs old?
by purrpurr inthe bible tells us that noah etc lived to 500yrs old as did many other characters who lived apparently to incredible years.. yet archaeological research tells us from looking at skeletons that have been dug up that the average lifespan was very short.
if a man got to the age of 50 they would have considered that quite an achievement.
when i was in i always wondered about this?
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LisaRose
While many people died young due to disease, violence and poor nutrition, it was not impossible for someone to live to age seventy or more, and in a world where many died young the fact that some did live a long time was probably talked about. These stories were probably passed down by word of mouth for hundreds of years before being written down, no doubt they were embellished a bit in each retelling. If there a real Methuselah he probably only lived to be 85. -
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what era do you feel like your starting out from?
by sowhatnow inanyone else feel like they were just woke up from a long coma?
or emerged from a time capsule?.
i mean seriously, its rather creepy and disturbing , some of us are at sea without a compass .. like an orphan, like someone said, , heres a birth certificate go find yourself.
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LisaRose
It's a very valid comparison. When every decision is made for you and you are not allowed to develop your own personality, make your own mistakes and pursue your own dreams, it keeps you from growing and developing as a person. When every problem has a simplistic solution (pray, study, meetings, service) you don't learn to develop your own problem solving skills. In a way your life was stolen from you.
You will never get those years back, all you can do is take what lessons you have learned and apply them to the life you have now. As horrible as some of my experiences were, it did ultimately make me a stronger person, and I have used those strengths to build a better life. Just being able to see through the lies get up the courage to leave is an act of remarkable personal growth and a good start on becoming a whole person again.