Posts by LisaRose

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My life has ended (be careful what you wish for part 2)

by nevaagain in

jw
friends

noone and nothing can really prepare you for the burning pain you feel when your spouse leaves you after 8 years of marriage.

from one day to another, all your dreams, hopes and plans are shattered.. i still have so many questions which will remain unanswered in eternity.. the thread i made a few weeks ago, is part of this story.

after learning about ttatt my plans involved to wake up my wife as well and exit the truth.

LisaRose

I will probably get the blame that I am a coward for not leaving the truth alone when I woke up. I can say I am guilty for that point, but I am also guilty for loving my wife more than the truth or more than TTATT. I always wanted for us to do the things together and accomplish things together, finally I wanted to grow old with my wife one way or another.

Stop feeling guilty! That is a Watchtower induced reflex, to blame yourself for not being perfect. Maybe you would do thinks differently if you knew how they would turn out, but you didn't (and couldn't ) have known, you did the best you could based on what you knew at the time, so stop blaming yourself, just stop.

Being older I have seen a lot of marriage fail and I can tell you that it's very likely that she would have eventually left you no matter what you did. If she feels she married too young then that means she didn't feel happy or fulfilled, even if on the surface things seemed to be going well. She was just stuffing those feelings down because she thought she was stuck, it doesn't mean she was happy. Lack of fighting does not necessarily mean a good marriage, it can also mean you just don't care anymore. Would you really want to have stayed married to someone who feels they made a bad decision to marry you? Your leaving the religion gave her the out she wanted and she took it. I think you both will be better off in the long run, however painful that is in this moment.

The end of a relationship us never easy, so give yourself some time to grieve, to heal and to reflect. You will move on from this and hopefully meet someone better, someone who loves you and wants to be with you.

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Successful Leaver

by 2True in

i was raised in the cult, a 'golden boy' in jw about 15 years ago.

regular pioneer, went to pioneer school and then mts.

my dad is a gilead graduate and is still a serving elder.

LisaRose

Why is it that most books do not say 607 ?

Because that is not when Jerusalem fell, no reputable bible scholar believes that Jerusalem fell in 607. The Watchtower only clings to that date because it makes their chronology work. As justification they say that the bible makes mention of "70 years of desolation", which they insist is a literal time period that doesn't work with 587. But other groups reconcile the 70 years with the 587 date, and the Watchtower itself teaches that the 70 years of desolation is figurative in the case of the fall of Tyre. It makes no sense that "70 years of desolation" is figurative in one case but must be literal in another. It's clear that the Watchtower is insisting that the 70 years is a literal time period only because the 607 date supports their chronology of 1914.

Put that with their failed generation predictions and you can only conclude they haven't gotten one thing right.

For a complete explanation:

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/607-70-years.php

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slimboyfat joins the Mormons!

by slimboyfat in

i know that some people on the board have experience of being mormons, so i would be interested in your feedback.

at church this afternoon it was an uncanny experience.

in the past i've read a lot about mormons, so i thought i was prepared in general for what it would be like.

LisaRose

I guess if you don't like the JWs but miss being in a cult that would be one way to go. I'll pass, I'd miss my gin and tonics. Actually I've cut down to one a week, but I'm not giving up that one.

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Is this the best you have to offer. Trump / Clinton?

by Lostandfound in

jw
friends

here in uk we have appalling choice between cameron / corby and some also rans.

are trump/clinton best the worlds superpower can offer up?

all candidates for office seem to be flawed , are no genuine people putting themselves forward?

LisaRose

I am going to hold my nose and vote for Hilary. I do not like her and have serious questions about her integrity, but her politics are fairly close to mine and I believe she is by far the lesser of two evils. Trump is a narcissistic jerk, I can't imagine his presidency would be anything but a disaster.

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New to JWD, Hello!

by jwundubbed in

jw
friends

my story in a nutshell... .

scientist for a father; extremely mentally ill, 'annointed' mother.

was privy to and also suffered a lot of abuse.

LisaRose

Welcome, thank you for sharing your story.

Lisa 🌹

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Should I just tell my parents

by BlackWolf in

jw
friends

lately i've been feeling just so fed up with this stupid religion i really can't take it anymore!

i'm starting to think that maybe i should just tell my parents how i really feel.

if they treat me too badly or kick me out i could probably stay with my non jw aunt.. ive just reached my breaking point, i don't really care what people think of me anymore.

LisaRose

You are making things difficult for yourself, it doesn't have to be like that. Saying that you "can't take it anymore" is a self fulfilling prophecy and set you up to make some very bad decisions. Step back from that and change the dialog in your head to "I am very frustrated right now, but I can do this". Develop some strength of character and focus on your schoolwork and prepare for your future life. I know a year seems like forever, but it will pass and if you are focusing on your goals it will pass that much quicker. Learning to deal with stress and channel your energies appropriately is a valuable life lesson.

Every seventeen year old feels frustration at being close to adult hood but still having to be under their parents rules, being a JW just adds another level of complexity to the whole mix. If you feel you have to tell them your true feelings, then do so, but be aware that it could make your situation much more difficult in the coming year, depending on how they react. Yes, your parents will be disappointed if you express your true feelings, but that doesn't mean their love is conditional, only that they want what's they believe to be best for you. No matter what happens, show respect and love to them, you do owe them that.

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They call me TaterSalad

by TaterSalad in

jw
friends

my name is tatersalad.

i have been disassociated for about six years now.

i have moved past most of my jw issues, but i feel like it would be cool to get to know others like myself.

LisaRose

Welcome Tatersalad!

Lisa 🌹

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Salvation Army vs Jehovah's Witnesses

by doofdaddy in

jw
friends

i was just listening to a documentary while driving.

it was about the salvation army past and present.

what caught my attention was the similarities between the s.a. and the jws.... firstly was the music and how they stubbornly shunned popular and ever changing musical trends by writing and playing their own exclusive hymns for over a century.this made the church inward looking and ignorant to social change which inevitably led to losing touch with the wider world.. initially they preached but as times moved on they relied on growth via families and keeping the family separate from the world.

LisaRose

Yes, except the Salvation Army has done more good in the world than the Watchtower ever did. They feed the hungry and help the homeless and reunite lost family members while the Watchtower just published magazines full of doom and gloom.

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No Reason For JWs To Go To The MIdweek Meeting (CLAM)

by JW_Rogue in

everything that is done at the midweek meeting can now be done at home.

the videos are online, the first talk is scripted, the bible highlights are scripted.

you could get the same experience by just reading and watching the material from your tablet.

LisaRose

They have to keep people on the endless meetings/service/study treadmill, otherwise they might have time to actually think, and they can't have that happening.

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Start A Butterfly Garden!

by Bonsai in

jw
friends

time to take a break from debating religion.

take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?

how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?

LisaRose

Beautiful oriental poppies. I had them in Colorado, I used the pods in my dried floral arrangements. They are so exotic looking you would think they would be tough to grow, but they did beautifully there. My yard backed to an open area and we lost so many things due to the cold dry wind that would just suck the moisture out of things in the winter. Although we got snow at that elevation (6,500 feet) it would often melt off leaving the plants unprotected. I even lost my lavender, which is usually very hardy elsewhere. I had a beautiful Austrian Pine, it got hit by lightening, which didn't kill it, but left a depression in the crown. A few years later we had a wet, heavy snow and because of the depression it accumulated and broke the trunk in half. It must have been at least 12 inches in diameter, snapped like a twig. Colorado was beautiful but I am happy not to have to deal with the snow anymore.

I am so sad that my drip system broke and half my wall didn't get water for a week. The succulents did fine, but the plants in one of my chicken feeders died One of my succulent planters was an old house vent and I wondered how they would do since the planting area was quite small, no more than 3 inches deep, but that is the one that has done the best. It just shows you never know what will make plants happy.