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  In a really good place right now.....

  by Freeandclear in

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  i'm in a great place mentally and spiritually in my life right now.

  i just wanted to share.

  because i know many of you are new and have just left the borg and well there are some tough times ahead but i want to assure you you can get through this and come out the other side much happier and more at peace.. i'm 44. got baptized at 18. was a convert not a born in.

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  LisaRose

  , the hard part was losing all the answers.

  I felt exactly the same. I am glad you have come to term with all this and have moved on in your life, I think you are doing very well.

  People can argue all day about the existence of God (and do, especially here, lol) but the reality we all deal with is the here and now. This moment, this day, is all we have right now and all we ever have. So get excited about your life and live it to the fullest. Find something that you feel passionate about and do it. Make the world a better place in some way. Create art, help out the less fortunate, right a wrong, improve the earth, create good human beings.

  
  

  
  
  
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  How do you deal with depression?

  by BlackWolf in

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  i'm currently going through a bout of depression and my eating disorder has gotten worse.

  ever since my parents actually told me that they are going to kick me out when i turn 18 i've felt kind of hopeless about my life.

  my parents won't take me to the doctor because the psychiatrists won't have my "best interests" aka jw crap in mind, because really that's the root of all my problems.. i'm wondering if any of you guys have any advice with dealing with depression?

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  LisaRose

  http://theconsciouslife.com/how-to-meditate-a-guide-for-beginners.htm

  Here is a website on beginning meditation. Meditation has proven health benefit, It lowers blood pressure, relieves stress and depression and enhances well being. If anyone needs meditation, it's ex JWs, as it helps you deal with difficult emotions and become more self aware. It has been life changing for me. I have ADHD, and meditation has helped me improve my focus and concentration. The Watchtower associates it with religion and spiritualism, but that is nonsense. While some religions do use meditation, it is not a religious practice in itself, and of course it has nothing to do with demons, lol.

  I highly recommend it for any ex JW.
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  How do you deal with depression?

  by BlackWolf in

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  i'm currently going through a bout of depression and my eating disorder has gotten worse.

  ever since my parents actually told me that they are going to kick me out when i turn 18 i've felt kind of hopeless about my life.

  my parents won't take me to the doctor because the psychiatrists won't have my "best interests" aka jw crap in mind, because really that's the root of all my problems.. i'm wondering if any of you guys have any advice with dealing with depression?

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  LisaRose

  Make sure you are eating well and getting enough sleep, take vitamins. I find meditation and exercise helpful. Look for the silver lingings, no matter how bad things are there is still plenty to be thankful for, and taking time to feel gratitude for what you do have helps you deal with what you don't have. You are young and healthy, that's a whole lot.
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  This Thing That Was My Mother

  by TimeBandit in

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  this thing that was my mother.

  this thing that was my mother, so withered and blackened now,.

  was once so kind and loving, but things have changed somehow.. remember when you'd hold me, and soothe my childhood fears?.

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  LisaRose

  Your poem made me tear up. My daughter was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, so I know what you are dealing with, my heart goes out to you.
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  Nobody at work knows what JWs believe

  by Athanasius in

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  recently susie, one of my co-workers mentioned that her husband's family were all jws.

  the family converted after susie's husband left home, so he never joined the jws, nor does he intend to.

  anyway another co-worker asked her: "what do the jws believe?".

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  LisaRose

  Considering that they consider the preaching work and proclaiming God's kingdom to be their most important work, they are remarkably ineffectual at it. It's one thing that they can't get anybody to convert, but it's a complete fail that they can't communicate what they consider the most urgent aspect of their message.
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  Jehovah protects his people. Did he ever protect you?

  by TimeBandit in

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  hello forum.

  i started this topic because i had been thinking recently about a story that i had heard many times in different congregations over the years.

  kind of a jw urban legend if you will.

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  LisaRose

  People believe silly JW urban legends about angelic protection, even though the Watchtower doesn't officially teach that Jehovah protects his people, and even though every other religion has the same exact stories, but when something bad happens to a JW, even one in service or attending a convention, they don't let it affect them. You really can't have it both ways.

  It's all just random chance, God has nothing to do with it, but you couldn't say that to a JW.
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  More misleading content on JW.org

  by Anders Andersen in

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  what is “the end of the world”?the phrase “the end of the world,” which appears in many bible translations, can also be rendered as “the conclusion of the system of things,” or “the close of the age.” (matthew 24:3;english standard version) it refers, not to the destruction of the earth or of all humanity, but to the end of the framework of human society.—1 john 2:17.. conveniently leaving out that according to current numbers and doctrine, 8.000.000 people will survive at max.. technically is not a destruction of all humanity....but it comes so close it deserves to be mentioned.. of course it isn't mentioned, because that would sound so extreme, cultish and unkind.

  we wouldn't want people to get the right ideas about jw.organization now, would we?.

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  LisaRose

  Oh, it's just a "closing" then. No need to mention on that they have been preaching a violent destruction of the world for well over a hundred years. And I guess they aren't showing any of the artists depictions of the violent death of people, children, even the family dog, they save that for the already converted.
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  Using the depression card: Only when critical to family?

  by JWdaughter in

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  i just was reading a thread and it occurred to me that "using" depression as a way to deflect from wt obligations is a mistake.

  it feeds their sense of superiority-because when you do finally leave or get kicked out, they will say how leaving jehovah ruins lives.

  they won't do anything with you anymore in any case, but why feed their delusions?.

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  LisaRose

  The reality is that people who choose to slow down meeting attendance and service when fading will come under a great deal of pressure from well meaning family and friends, and some people are just not in a position to be open about their feelings. When you only choices are to be completely honest and lose your family or to tell a minor fib, I am not going to condemn anyone for choosing the lesser of two evils.

  This is a short term tactic, but it can be very helpful during the transition from full believer to inactive JW. It can give the person time to become more sure of their feelings, to get their family used to the idea that they don't want to attend meetings and to get the elders off their backs. Yes, it would be great if everyone could be completely open and honest about their reasons for leaving, but that isn't the reality for most people.
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  13 year anniversary

  by gerry in

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  today marks 13 years since my wife and i have stepped inside a kingdom hall.

  after 29 years full on being a jw and a number of years serving as an elder then as the presiding overseer we pulled the plug.

  yes 13 years ago coming home from the first day of a circuit assembly i said to my wife “that’s it i am not going back”.

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  LisaRose

  Congratulations on your 13 years of freedom.

  Lisa🌹
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  List of "pagan" things JW's allow

  by problemaddict 2 in

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  what i'm looking for specifically is things that are "pagan" in the sense they predate christianity (or i guess judiasm to cover the ole mosaic code), that jw's allow or do.

  the ones that come to mind are below.. rings - rings seem to originate in egypt.

  for wedding ceremonies it became a symbol of "ownership" in rome.. pinatas - looks like possibly it originated in china as a part of the new year and a request for luck, and catholics later turned it into a beating of temptation type thing.. anything else?.

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  LisaRose

  Thinks with pagan symbolism:

  Wedding rings
  

  Honeymoons

  Flying kites

  Wearing neckties

  perfume

  Calendars, the months are named Roman God

  From JW facts:

  For example, when discussing piñatas, Watchtower advises to contemplate how they are currently regarded:

  “A main concern is, not what the practice meant hundreds of years ago, but how it is viewed today in your area. Understandably, opinions may vary from one place to another. Hence, it is wise to avoid turning such matters into big issues.” Awake! 2003 Sep 22 pp.23-24

  It's hilarious that they say in one case it doesn't matter what the history is, what counts is how they are viewed today, but in other cases you can't do something because it once had a pagan meaning.