What an ugly, generic building, it could be just about anything, but I guess that's the point. If you are in the real estate business you would want to be able to quickly convert your properties to a new use, it makes them much more saleable.
LisaRose
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Dunkin Donut style KH
by GreenhornChristian inhas anyone seen one of the new design kh's and taken pics?
i'm curious to see.
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For My Kids
by myjourney ini haven't been on here much, but every so often i try and keep up with the discussions.
i'm sure this topic has been talked about before, so my apologies in advance if i'm repeating.. a little about me.... i'm a non baptized jw married to a devout jw.
both my husband and i were raised in the organization.
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LisaRose
You are not crazy for considering this, your children do only have one shot at being raised with options, but is that really the only way to accomplish that.
I suggest marriage counseling before you take this drastic of a step. Maybe if your husband realizes the seriousness of your feelings he will be willing to compromise. You need a neutral third party to help you come up with a solution you both can live with. If you get divorced he would still have visitation, and you couldn't stop him from trying make them JWs anyway, so why break up an otherwise good marriage?
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I Don't Care If It Is A Cult ???
by thereishope inshared a bit with my husband the other day about what i'd learned about cults.
how nearly (if not all) every box on the list gets checked for jw.
he got some upset!
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LisaRose
The direct challenge to the faith of a JW is seldom effective. Most of us here do remember a time when we would have reacted exactly the same to anyone criticising the Watchtower. For one thing it puts you in the defensive, as it is a criticism of choices made. It also can arouse fear of "apostate thinking", and nobody can think or make good decisions when afraid.
A more indirect approach is usually advisable. You can say someone you worked with asked a question that you don't know the answer to and wonder how they would answer. Of course since you have already disclosed that you yourself have doubts it will be more difficult. I recommend dropping the subject for at least a few days or weeks and try again with a different approach.
You could just say that you have troubling questions that you cannot get out of your mind and you want to know how to deal with these questions. Of course he will spout the usual nonsense that we need to have faith, or trust the governing body, that gives you an opportunity to sow a few seeds of doubt. The objective is not to school the person in TTATT in on e session, but to get them to think independently in some small way.
You might think not about thinks you have trouble with, but what you think they might have trouble with and start with that. I can guarantee that the majority of JWs do not completely buy the Watchtower explanation for everything. For some people it's the blood issue, for others it's the false predictions, for others it's the exhausting schedule of meetings and field service. Figure out what makes him uncomfortable and exploit it.
Another approach is to get them talking about what their life might have been like if they were never JWs. If at all possible do this naturally in the course of a conversation. Did they give up educational opportunities or a good job for the religion? Get them to think what might have been different.
Good luck
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The Worst Way of Living
by Coded Logic inthe unexamined life is not worth living.. -socrates.
holding all of humanity in contempt and degrading every achievement of mankind as being insignificant is not a philosophy or a worldview worth having.
tell me, oh self righteous jw, what was the price of your integrity?
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LisaRose
I was thinking about this today because of another thread. Like many ex JWs, I struggled with finding a way to make life meaningful after losing a belief system. What I have found works for me is to strive to make each day count. I am not going to save the world, but I can make each day as meaningful as possible, in my own small way. If I only talk to three people today I can try to connect with those three people and in some small way make their day just that little bit better, by listening to them, by being positive, by helping them in some way if I can, and often I find that someone invariably gives something back to me in some way I never expected.
It's amazing what you start to notice when you stop living in the future and start looking around at what life has to offer right now.
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In a really good place right now.....
by Freeandclear ini'm in a great place mentally and spiritually in my life right now.
i just wanted to share.
because i know many of you are new and have just left the borg and well there are some tough times ahead but i want to assure you you can get through this and come out the other side much happier and more at peace.. i'm 44. got baptized at 18. was a convert not a born in.
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LisaRose
Well thank you very much Millie.
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Disassociation Announcement
by Paul Bonanno indid anyone experience a disassociation announcement during the public meeting instead during the service meeting?.
in my case it was announced the next day that we submitted our letter and this was on sunday instead of waiting for the service meeting on thursday..
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LisaRose
They must be afraid of you, like they can't wait to let people know not to talk to you.
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In a really good place right now.....
by Freeandclear ini'm in a great place mentally and spiritually in my life right now.
i just wanted to share.
because i know many of you are new and have just left the borg and well there are some tough times ahead but i want to assure you you can get through this and come out the other side much happier and more at peace.. i'm 44. got baptized at 18. was a convert not a born in.
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LisaRose
, the hard part was losing all the answers.
I felt exactly the same. I am glad you have come to term with all this and have moved on in your life, I think you are doing very well.
People can argue all day about the existence of God (and do, especially here, lol) but the reality we all deal with is the here and now. This moment, this day, is all we have right now and all we ever have. So get excited about your life and live it to the fullest. Find something that you feel passionate about and do it. Make the world a better place in some way. Create art, help out the less fortunate, right a wrong, improve the earth, create good human beings.
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How do you deal with depression?
by BlackWolf ini'm currently going through a bout of depression and my eating disorder has gotten worse.
ever since my parents actually told me that they are going to kick me out when i turn 18 i've felt kind of hopeless about my life.
my parents won't take me to the doctor because the psychiatrists won't have my "best interests" aka jw crap in mind, because really that's the root of all my problems.. i'm wondering if any of you guys have any advice with dealing with depression?
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LisaRose
http://theconsciouslife.com/how-to-meditate-a-guide-for-beginners.htm
Here is a website on beginning meditation. Meditation has proven health benefit, It lowers blood pressure, relieves stress and depression and enhances well being. If anyone needs meditation, it's ex JWs, as it helps you deal with difficult emotions and become more self aware. It has been life changing for me. I have ADHD, and meditation has helped me improve my focus and concentration. The Watchtower associates it with religion and spiritualism, but that is nonsense. While some religions do use meditation, it is not a religious practice in itself, and of course it has nothing to do with demons, lol.
I highly recommend it for any ex JW.
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How do you deal with depression?
by BlackWolf ini'm currently going through a bout of depression and my eating disorder has gotten worse.
ever since my parents actually told me that they are going to kick me out when i turn 18 i've felt kind of hopeless about my life.
my parents won't take me to the doctor because the psychiatrists won't have my "best interests" aka jw crap in mind, because really that's the root of all my problems.. i'm wondering if any of you guys have any advice with dealing with depression?
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LisaRose
Make sure you are eating well and getting enough sleep, take vitamins. I find meditation and exercise helpful. Look for the silver lingings, no matter how bad things are there is still plenty to be thankful for, and taking time to feel gratitude for what you do have helps you deal with what you don't have. You are young and healthy, that's a whole lot.
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This Thing That Was My Mother
by TimeBandit inthis thing that was my mother.
this thing that was my mother, so withered and blackened now,.
was once so kind and loving, but things have changed somehow.. remember when you'd hold me, and soothe my childhood fears?.
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LisaRose
Your poem made me tear up. My daughter was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, so I know what you are dealing with, my heart goes out to you.