And don't make a habit of watching the news because it is Satan's world so the news will always be bad, and we might hear something that will erode our faith. (pedophiles in the org?)
Wow. Ignorance is bliss I guess.
so in an effort to relieve some pressure here are what i term the low-lites of yesterday's assembly that i had to endure for the sake of family still in and my progressing fade.
apologies in advance for being pretty long winded.. these may not all be the actual words used, but the ones i use are close, and they pretty well say what was said from the platform.. right off the bat in the opening prayer the praises of the governing body were spoken.
thanking the g.b.
And don't make a habit of watching the news because it is Satan's world so the news will always be bad, and we might hear something that will erode our faith. (pedophiles in the org?)
Wow. Ignorance is bliss I guess.
I am sorry you are feeling stuck, I am sure it's very difficult to be in this situation. I agree a slow fade is probably your best option.
It probably seems impossible at this point, but you might think about trying to get your husband to see that The Watchtower is not what it claims to be. It would not be easy, but a few people have helped family to get out. I pulled some information together on what has worked for others in this thread.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5729160790016000/guide-helping-other-break-free
playing devil's advocate here.... what's the difference between the gb changing bible interpretations compared to parliaments all over the world changing laws?
although the us constitution (=bible) remains untouched, congress passes i don't know how many new laws every year.
and of course people are expected to follow them.
This organization has a history of making thing up, claiming the bible says things it doesn't and making date predictions based on pure speculation. When these predictions fail, instead of learning from their mistakes they just make up new things that will also inevitability fail. It's a consistent pattern designed to keep people feeling the urgency of impending destruction. You can't have a doomsday cult without a doomsday looming.
1914 is a perfect example. Prior to 1914 they believed they were already in the last days and Armageddon was going to be in 1914. When that didn't happen they invented the "invisible presence of Jesus" and still said Armageddon was imminent. For years they taught that the end would come before the generation of 1914 passed away. When that became impossible to keep up anymore they made up the ridiculous "overlapping generation" doctrine. Who know how many overlaps they will get out of that before they have to come up with something new?
They are not just making innocent mistakes, and then correcting them, it's a pattern. They claim to be directed by God, people believe them and make life decisions on their made up doctrines. They never admit their past mistakes, hide their history and go on deceiving people.
if one reads about god creating the earth with any critical thinking you'll notice that he created vegetation and the trees before the sun.
another one that i just read about was the stories about the golden calves.
one story involves the making of a golden calf by aaron and the other is about the golden calves that were set up at bethel and i think dan.
i thought, ok the case in australia would open the eyes of the world about this dangerous cult.. well that passed without a ripple.
we talk about the un and the wt link, none jw's don't.
understand the significance.
The reality is that very few people in the world are ever going to fall for the Watchtower flavor of crazy, most people can recognize stupid when they see it. When a religion has the lowest retention rate of any, and are growing slower than the population, they are never going to hurt that many people. Granted, even one is to many, but when you look at the number of new people recruited into the religion it really is just a tiny, tiny fraction of the earth's population. You would save more people working on global climate change or world hunger.
It's truly tragic that we can't get more out, but that is the nature of cults. You just can't save everyone, at some point there is a responsibility of each person to research the religion they are in.
i have just read an interesting article by astrobiologist jacob haq-misra.. in this article he describes a process called "directed panspermia" as a plausible way that one form of intelligent design - one not related with religious driven agendas involving theism - could be involved in the process by which life developed on earth and possibly in other planets as well.. sounds like a speculation that's worth entertaining.
your thoughts?.
It's an interesting concept, reminds me of the book/movie 2001, a Space Odessy. The plot revolves around the idea that some extraterrestrial beings manipulated evolution to create humans.
But besides the fact that extraterrestrial life is highly speculative (as there is no evidence) you are still left with the problem of where did the extraterrestrial designers come from in the first place? Wouldn't they have had to evolve themselves? It doesn't really answer the question of where intelligent life came from.
i would love to compile a list of the education obtained by the governing body members both past and present.
can anyone provide any information to get me started?.
it still amazes me they think they can translate ancient languages with an 8th grade education.
Most churches require a minimum of a bachelor degree plus seminary to lead even a small church, advanced degrees are not uncommon. That the leaders of a religion of the size of the Jehovah's Witnesss have not even completed four years of higher education tells you how under qualified they really are.
It also explains why they discourage higher education, they know that an educated membership would soon realize how horrible they are at translating and interpreting scripture.
this should be titled "jerks for jesus afraid of their own shadow, sexuality".
seriously, someone thinks that a video on how to be nice to people different from him is an affront to his god.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/federal-worker-would-rather-be-fired-than-watch-lgbt-diversity-video-god-doesnt-want-me-to-see-it/.
He would rather be fired than watch a video on how to treat people nicely? What an idiot. Did not Jesus say of a prostitute "let he who is without sin cast the first stone"? If he is a true follower of Christ he should want to show the same compassion. No one is forcing him to approve of or condone homosexuality, only to treat everyone with dignity.
Christians being persecuted because of their homophobia.
Requiring people to watch a video on how to do their job is not persecution.
greetings, fellow posters:.
wishing you well and offering my sympathy if you've ever experienced vertigo.
my neighbor is a physical therapist and told me about the epley maneuver, which i am now researching.. have you ever been through this hell of total incapacitation?.
It started with a virus for my husband as well, though later it happened again for no reason. Vertigo can be debilitating, it's pretty hard to function when your world won't stop spinning. He had something even weirder happen this week, driving down the freeway his vision went completly black for a few seconds. He pulled over and I drive him to the emergency room, but they couldn't find any problem to account for it. He went to his regular doctor this week and they are running more tests.
ok so this week's wt study article is entitled "why must we keep on the watch?"..
it is filled with statements on the importance of "being watchful" for the beginning of the "great tribulation".
paragraph 2: “keep looking, keep awake, for you do not know when the appointed time is.”after that, jesus admonished them repeatedly: “keep on the watch.”.