Posts by LisaRose

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I need to know more on why its a problem for me dating a JW girl.

by seekinghelpp in

ok not to throw no shade or no disrespect to the jw religion.

which i truly do respect because my girlfriend is part of but i just don't understand, i have researched so much about it.

so much about how its discouraged for her to be with me just cause of different religion.

LisaRose

I agree you should be able to love who you want. What you may not know is that the Jehovah's Witnesses are not a religion like any other religion. They are a cult, and controlling who you choose to marry is just one way they have of controlling you. I was a JW for 28 years, until I realized they were not what they pretended to be, so I left.

The problem is that your girl probably believes this is the one true religion and that if she doesn't do what they say she will die at Armageddon, which is happening any time now (and has been for over a hundred years). It's very hard to fight that kind of brain washing.

You are probably better off finding someone who isn't in a cult.

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Coming Out To My JW Sister

by Ame SF in

now, i have been mentally "awake" for quite a while, but i'll just say march/april this year.

i won't go into detail about what it was that made me "realize" everything, so don't bother asking.. so, i've known for years that i wasn't like most girls in my classes, kingdom hall, and just in general.

from a very young age i had that obvious interest in the same sex, but seeing as i was seemingly the only one feeling that way i would brush it off and eventually i started getting interested in guys.

LisaRose

I am very happy for you that your sister took it so well and will not betray you, it must be a relief to be able to tell someone.

Be glad you realized that A) The religion is not "the truth" and B) you know you are a Lesbian. You are young and have your whole life in front of you and don't need to waste time in a religion you don't believe in or in relationships that would not ultimately be fulfilling.

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Circuit ASSembly low-lites

by FedUpJW in

so in an effort to relieve some pressure here are what i term the low-lites of yesterday's assembly that i had to endure for the sake of family still in and my progressing fade.

apologies in advance for being pretty long winded.. these may not all be the actual words used, but the ones i use are close, and they pretty well say what was said from the platform.. right off the bat in the opening prayer the praises of the governing body were spoken.

thanking the g.b.

LisaRose

And don't make a habit of watching the news because it is Satan's world so the news will always be bad, and we might hear something that will erode our faith. (pedophiles in the org?)

Wow. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

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Stuck

by Cindy in

i feel so stuck.

i am married to a wonderful man.

i have been married for almost a decade and adore my husband.

LisaRose

I am sorry you are feeling stuck, I am sure it's very difficult to be in this situation. I agree a slow fade is probably your best option.

It probably seems impossible at this point, but you might think about trying to get your husband to see that The Watchtower is not what it claims to be. It would not be easy, but a few people have helped family to get out. I pulled some information together on what has worked for others in this thread.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5729160790016000/guide-helping-other-break-free

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Is changing the "truth" / presenting "new light" really so bad?

by Zana in

jw
friends

playing devil's advocate here.... what's the difference between the gb changing bible interpretations compared to parliaments all over the world changing laws?

although the us constitution (=bible) remains untouched, congress passes i don't know how many new laws every year.

and of course people are expected to follow them.

LisaRose

This organization has a history of making thing up, claiming the bible says things it doesn't and making date predictions based on pure speculation. When these predictions fail, instead of learning from their mistakes they just make up new things that will also inevitability fail. It's a consistent pattern designed to keep people feeling the urgency of impending destruction. You can't have a doomsday cult without a doomsday looming.

1914 is a perfect example. Prior to 1914 they believed they were already in the last days and Armageddon was going to be in 1914. When that didn't happen they invented the "invisible presence of Jesus" and still said Armageddon was imminent. For years they taught that the end would come before the generation of 1914 passed away. When that became impossible to keep up anymore they made up the ridiculous "overlapping generation" doctrine. Who know how many overlaps they will get out of that before they have to come up with something new?

They are not just making innocent mistakes, and then correcting them, it's a pattern. They claim to be directed by God, people believe them and make life decisions on their made up doctrines. They never admit their past mistakes, hide their history and go on deceiving people.

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Science the bible and some telling scriptures

by Crazyguy in

if one reads about god creating the earth with any critical thinking you'll notice that he created vegetation and the trees before the sun.

another one that i just read about was the stories about the golden calves.

one story involves the making of a golden calf by aaron and the other is about the golden calves that were set up at bethel and i think dan.

LisaRose

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Lets be honest we will never expose the danger to the world of JW.org

by James Mixon in

i thought, ok the case in australia would open the eyes of the world about this dangerous cult.. well that passed without a ripple.

we talk about the un and the wt link, none jw's don't.

understand the significance.

LisaRose

The reality is that very few people in the world are ever going to fall for the Watchtower flavor of crazy, most people can recognize stupid when they see it. When a religion has the lowest retention rate of any, and are growing slower than the population, they are never going to hurt that many people. Granted, even one is to many, but when you look at the number of new people recruited into the religion it really is just a tiny, tiny fraction of the earth's population. You would save more people working on global climate change or world hunger.

It's truly tragic that we can't get more out, but that is the nature of cults. You just can't save everyone, at some point there is a responsibility of each person to research the religion they are in.

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Directed panspermia - a plausible theory of intelligent design?

by EdenOne in

i have just read an interesting article by astrobiologist jacob haq-misra.. in this article he describes a process called "directed panspermia" as a plausible way that one form of intelligent design - one not related with religious driven agendas involving theism - could be involved in the process by which life developed on earth and possibly in other planets as well.. sounds like a speculation that's worth entertaining.

your thoughts?.

LisaRose

It's an interesting concept, reminds me of the book/movie 2001, a Space Odessy. The plot revolves around the idea that some extraterrestrial beings manipulated evolution to create humans.

But besides the fact that extraterrestrial life is highly speculative (as there is no evidence) you are still left with the problem of where did the extraterrestrial designers come from in the first place? Wouldn't they have had to evolve themselves? It doesn't really answer the question of where intelligent life came from.

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What is the Education Level of the Governing Body members?

by Wild_Thing in

jw
friends

i would love to compile a list of the education obtained by the governing body members both past and present.

can anyone provide any information to get me started?.

it still amazes me they think they can translate ancient languages with an 8th grade education.

LisaRose

Most churches require a minimum of a bachelor degree plus seminary to lead even a small church, advanced degrees are not uncommon. That the leaders of a religion of the size of the Jehovah's Witnesss have not even completed four years of higher education tells you how under qualified they really are.

It also explains why they discourage higher education, they know that an educated membership would soon realize how horrible they are at translating and interpreting scripture.

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Being nice to LGBTQ people is an affront to god?

by Viviane in

this should be titled "jerks for jesus afraid of their own shadow, sexuality".

seriously, someone thinks that a video on how to be nice to people different from him is an affront to his god.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/federal-worker-would-rather-be-fired-than-watch-lgbt-diversity-video-god-doesnt-want-me-to-see-it/.

LisaRose

He would rather be fired than watch a video on how to treat people nicely? What an idiot. Did not Jesus say of a prostitute "let he who is without sin cast the first stone"? If he is a true follower of Christ he should want to show the same compassion. No one is forcing him to approve of or condone homosexuality, only to treat everyone with dignity.

Christians being persecuted because of their homophobia.

Requiring people to watch a video on how to do their job is not persecution.