My daughter went last year, she had a blast, scored tickets to the Star Trek movie premier, it was out doors with a full orchestra and fireworks. She was disapointed to not get get tickets this year.
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2017 San Diego Comic Con!
by HiddlesWife infyi (regarding those posters/readers who are interested): 2017 san diego comic con started last thursday, 7/20/17 and is ending today, sunday, 7/23/17.
here are the footage/highlights of it (i'm planning one of these days to attend it ):.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvu6dd59iya&t=93s.
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Family of Jehovah's Witness who died after refusing blood transfusion can't keep suing doctors
by pale.emperor inhttp://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/07/court_nixes_lawsuit_by_family.html.
the family of a jehovah's witness who died after repeatedly refusing blood transfusions can't sue the hospital where doctors begged for a chance to save her life, a state appeals court ruled.. the case, outlined in an opinion by superior court judge jacqueline o. shogan, involves a convergence of religion, medicine and the law.. its focus is on what happened before terri seels-davila, a jehovah's witness missionary, died after giving birth at hahnemann university hospital in philadelphia in november 2010.. seels-davila, who had been serving on mission with her husband in nicaragua, chose hahnemann because of its "bloodless medicine" program for patients who won't agree to having blood transfusions, including jehovah's witnesses, shogan noted.
the treatment plan for seels-davila called for recycling her own blood back into her system.. yet that proved to be inadequate when complications of her delivery required seels-davila to deliver by cesarean section.
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LisaRose
Another entirely preventable death because the Watchtower refuses to admit thet were wrong to forbid blood transfusions. Very sad, but not the hospitals fault, they did the best they could given the circumstances.
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Hello
by Jules Saturn inhello, i've been lurking for quite some time here on this forum, reading a whole lot and i've finally made the courage to create an account as a form of escape and in hopes to be understood and not feel "mentally diseased".
little background on me, i am a born in but i consider myself a pimo (physically in mentally out).
i feel like i've always had doubts but these doubts would sink with the meetings and the assemblies and every other little thing that drowns any doubts a witness may have.
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LisaRose
Welcome to the forum, I wish you well on your journey out of the organization. It will be hard at tines, but in the end you will be glad you chose to question your beliefs, knowledge is power.
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Jehovah's people are not happy people
by Phoebe ini finally stopped attending the meetings about 4 months go.
i won't be going back - ever.. but i've decided the best reply to the watchtower is to be happy and i do try to be happy every day even thought i wasted my entire life on this religion.
i cherish every day, practice mindfulness and do my best to be content with the life i have.. it is only now that i see that most jws i know are deeply unhappy people.
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LisaRose
A lifetime of never feeling like you are good enough is not really a foundation for a happy life is it? Add in burdensome requirements for service, meetings, study and prayer, with little in the way of social support and it's no wonder people are depressed.
Enjoy your freedom.
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why jw's commit suicide?
by notalone inwe all know the rate of suicide is high among jw's.
my question is this- was there some subliminal messages that encourage this.
i was a born in and my entire life i would have these thoughts that could come out of nowhere,"kill yourself.
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LisaRose
Good points Steve. It makes sense to me that in general more religious people are less prone to suicide, because they usually represent a strong community of people with shared values, who are likely to provide a good support system, plus most religions have rules against suicide, those who do will not go to heaven, which provides motivation not to commit.
It doesn't work as well for Jehovah's Witnesses, because they tend to see anyone with problems as being "weak" in faith. There is a mindset that faithful meeting attendance, service, study and prayer should fix any problem, when it doesn't, that person tends to become isolated. People may express concern at first, but when time goes by and the person doesn't fall into line they tend to get ignored. If they then transgress in some way they will be disfellowshiped and lose all contact not only with the congregation, but any JW family. A disfellowshiped person is then even worse off than someone not in a relgion, as any support system they have is now completely gone.
Then you add the mindset that such people may believe that they are going to die soon at Armageddon anyway and they really have no reason not to kill themselves, if their mental pain is bad enough.
The JWs are often not aware of these suicides because the person has often not been associated for some time, or the true cause of death is not mentioned, but it doesn't mean their death was not a result of the religion, it just means the organization can claim it's very rare, and no one can prove otherwise.
I personally heard of at least ten in the time I was associated, plus a close family member that attempted twice.
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A Poll Regarding Shunning
by pale.emperor ini've created a poll here: https://goo.gl/7xburo.
i'd be interested in seeing the results.. .
#qp_main1119848 .qp_btna:hover input {background:#00355f!important} #qp_all1119848 {max-width:815px; margin:0 auto;}if watchtower scrapped the shunning policy due to "new light" and your family suddenly agreed to speak to you again would you accept them back?.
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LisaRose
The poll didn't come up for me, but I would vote yes. My family only shuns me because they have been manipulated and deceived into doing so and they think they are doing the right thing. I cannot judge them for that, because at one time I did the same, my sister who shuns me was disfellowshiped for many years and was shunned by me.
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why jw's commit suicide?
by notalone inwe all know the rate of suicide is high among jw's.
my question is this- was there some subliminal messages that encourage this.
i was a born in and my entire life i would have these thoughts that could come out of nowhere,"kill yourself.
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LisaRose
The organization requires a lot, but gives back so little, in support, encouragement and understanding, it's an all or nothing mind set, not a healthy way to live. The practice of shunning individuals who transgress is especially problematic, it can be devastating to lose all your family and friends. They don't especially approve of mental health care, and look down on those who slow down on meeting attendance and field service for whatever reason. They hide and cover up child sex abuse and elders have little education or training in counseling or mental health.
I do know of many suicides over the 30 years I was associated, but it sometimes surprises me that there weren't more, it's a religion that shoots their wounded.
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Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?
by unsure indo i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.
i was raised as a jehovah's witness.
i was born in.
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LisaRose
Do you have to believe in Jesus to be saved?
What is it you think you think you need to be saved from?
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After being in the so-called "Truth" makes me despise all religions.
by Fader812 inafter being a jw made me lose trust in religion, from the lies, hypocrisy and greed of this organization made me lose faith completely.
what does one do after this mind f$%@, what is there to look forward to?
do i make up my own agnostic theory in head and hope for the best?
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LisaRose
Nobody has all the answers, you are only deceiving yourself to imagine anything different.
Eventually you come to terms with this and get on with your life and make the best of your time here on planet earth, the world is full of possibilities.
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North Korea viral video and JW Comparison.
by pleaseresearch ini watched this video yesterday from this brave young north korean woman.
hearing her share her experiences living in her country and what the people go through on a day to day basis is so very similar to jws today and how we lived.. please watch and tell me your thoughts.. thank you.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85ijj3insyk.
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LisaRose
I saw a documentary on North Korea a few years ago and saw some similarities between their situation and being a JW. I believe North Korea can be thought of as a giant cult. Their leader is considered to be all powerful, with special knowledge of what they need, the reverence given to him is not unlike the way JWs think of the governing body. Children practice all year to perform in front of the leader, it is considered a special privilege, disappointing him is a fear of every performer.
In North Korea, the U.S. is considered evil, they are told that the U.S. plots to deprive them of food and wants then to be destroyed. This is not unlike the way Satan/outsiders are demonized to JWs.
Information about the outside world is restricted, alternative voices are shut down. The JWs constantly talk about not believing or trusting any information from outside the organization. Yes, any JW has access to outside information, but how many of them are afraid to access that information, for fear of disappointing God and missing out on everlasting life?
Telling you what to think, who to talk to and what you should do are hallmarks of a cult, cults take many forms. Yes, Jehovah's Witnesses at not executed, but how many are disfellowshiped, a fate considered as bad as death to many JWs? The end result is the same, the remaining people fall in line, not wanting to risk everything.