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  Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...

  by titch in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  greetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.

  and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.

  but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.

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  LisaRose

  I was 21 in 1975. As 1975 approached I started having some doubts that Armageddon would come that year. It seemed the Watchtower was starting to be less definitive about the 1975 date, and it was hard to think something like that would happen, there were no big wars or other signs. We had a few earthquakes, but it was California. Life seemed to be just going on like normal. I had my first child in December and being a mom became my focus,, not worries about Armageddon.

  By the time 1975 ended everyone realised that Armageddon might not come right away. Like many, I said I wasn't serving Jehovah for a date, so it didn't matter. No one questioned why we were led to believe it, we accepted it as being our own fault for "jumping ahead". It's amazing what you can get people to accept. We all got scammed but we didn't see it at the time.
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  LisaRose

  I don't see the point to attacking Nitty Gritty. He has kept the discussion civil and has a right to his opinion.
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  SHOTOUT TO THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS SITE ! !

  by brandnew in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  to the person, or persons responsible for creating this site.....my hats off to you, and yours.....im totally diggin this site.. thank you.

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  LisaRose

  Happy fourth to you brand new. We are going to watch a parade and then barbeque. I like to do a Santa Maria bbq, which is Tri Tip, garlic bread, salad and beans, yum.
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  LisaRose

  1. First of would you mind telling me how the elders found out about the fact that your friend told this sister.

  The woman told her fiance, he complained to the elders.

  
  2. And was it an isolated incidence, I mean did he go on to molest anyone else?

  We both moved away shortly after, so unknown. The woman still married the guy, I wouldn't bet money they were not molested, the statistics on that are not good. At least she had the opportunity to make an informed decision, obviously if my friend had said nothing she would not have been told.

  
  
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  They dared !

  by coalize in

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  2. beliefs

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  i can't believe they had the cheek to come out with that explanation.. it's no more "new light" it's "new scam"!!

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  LisaRose

  I wonder if in fifty years they will have more "New light" that there are actually now three groups. The people, who knew the people that knew the people who were around in 1914.

  generation

  [ ˌjenəˈrāSHən ]

  NOUN

  1. all of the people born and living at about the same time, regarded collectively:

  "one of his generation's finest songwriters"
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  LisaRose

  You don't give the members of the congregation much credit and think they are all dim wits evidently.

  On the contrary, I just know the state of denial that many JWs live in. My best friend when I was a JW was one of the smartest people I know. Her son was molested by a young brother that she employed to babysit. He confessed and was privately reproved. A year later he got married to a sister with two young children. My friend was concerned that she was not aware that she was marrying a pedophile, so she informed the woman. My friend was told she should not have done that, and if she told anyone else she would be subject to a JC.

  I knew of this and was bothered, I knew there was a very great chance those children would be molested, but I thought it was an isolated incident, those elders were just mistaken, Jehovah would fix it in time, etc. I consider myself a fairly intelligent person, yet I did not see what would be obvious to any one not in a cult, that this was how they did things, and was not an isolated event, but business as usual.
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  LisaRose

  I agree you can't disclose names unless it has been proven, so Silent Lambs is correct in not listing names, but what about where there has been a conviction, or a confession? Silent Lambs does disclose names when they are in the media, but does the Watchtower? It seems that the Watchtower is more interested in protecting themselves from litigation than the innocent children in the congregations.
  

  The other problem I have is that they aren't truly keeping things confidential. All the elders in a congregation often do know when there is a pedophile accusation, so they can protect their children. If they cannot disclose the names of the accused, they could disclose that there have been accusations and that parents need to be careful, then all children could be protected, not just elders families.
  

  What also bothers me about the list is that the Watchtower pretends it doesn't have a problem with pedophiles, or if they do its very rare, almost none, etc. Thus individuals are living with a false sense of security, as they have been told time and again that they live in a "spiritual paradise". If the Watchtower was honest and open about how many accusations of sex abuse are made in a given year I would guess that parents would be quite a bit more diligent in who their children visit.
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  Try Other Religions

  by Sofia Lose in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  sometimes i get a strong curiosity to start dabbling into other religions, other faiths, you know?

  really different ones such as islam, judaism, hinduism, etc.. has anyone here looked into something else?

  has your spirituality been satisfied by any other than christianity?.

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  LisaRose

  Very well put Caleb, thanks for sharing your perspective.
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  On the Relevancy of The Institutionalization of Sin

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  child murder, sodomy & corrupting the human genome are not new sins, they are old ones.

  what is new is their institutionalization.

  but even that isn't totally new.

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  LisaRose

  TIM 310RD

  It is crucial and I'm a big fan/advocate of the first amendment, however Internet bullying is already a crime

  Is it? I see bullying on the internet every day. Can you site a case where someone was arrested simply for being a bully? I do think there is a fine line between harassment and bullying, but just stating your opinion, however offensive that is, is not a crime. It's only when that opinion is consistently directed to a particular person, especially if it is due to race gender or sexual orientation that it crosses the line and becomes a crime.

  Which of the following do you think should not be a crime?

  Bullying and cyberbullying can become a crime if you:

  • Physically assaulting someone
  • Harassing someone especially if the harassment is based on gender or racism
  • Making violent threats
  • Making death threats
  • Making obscene and harassing phone calls and texts
  • Sexting
  • Sextortion which is sexual exploitation
  • Child pornography
  • Stalking someone
  • Commiting hate crimes
  • Taking a photo of someone in a place where they expect privacy
  • Extortion
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  Try Other Religions

  by Sofia Lose in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  sometimes i get a strong curiosity to start dabbling into other religions, other faiths, you know?

  really different ones such as islam, judaism, hinduism, etc.. has anyone here looked into something else?

  has your spirituality been satisfied by any other than christianity?.

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  LisaRose

  My daughter looked into Buddism, but there was an extreme Buddhist that was pushy and just as narrow minded as any JW, so no. I tried a liberal Christian Church, nice people, I saw some benefits, but since I don't believe in God it was hard to see the point.

  Have you tried meditation? It's like the best part of religion, without the woo. It's been scientifically proven to lower blood pressure and decrease anxiety and depression.