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  If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

  by DJS in

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  scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

  by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

  updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

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  If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

  by DJS in

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  scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

  by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

  updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

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  Davis is stuck in her position because the gay law was passed while she was in office. She does not want to loose her job. Would anyone? And she claims that she cannot violate her conscience. She is stuck.

  There was no gay law passed, the supreme court ruled on laws that were attempting to ban same sex marriage, striking them down and ruling they were unconstitutional.

  Davis is stuck only because she can only think in simplistic, black and white terms and wrongly feels that her name on the marriage licence would mean she is approving of the marriage, when all that means is that she has certified the marriage is legal. Frankly, I don't think she is the sharpest pencil in the drawer, and she is more motivated by hate than belief, but whatever her reason, she is wrong.

  Now that she is in jail she is attempting to reach some kind of compromise that will allow her to take her name off of the licenses and keep her job. I personally don't want to see her lose her job, but she has to learn that you can't flaunt the law and justify it by claiming it's because of your religious beliefs. Imagine the chaos that would ensue if that were allowed. Other people in other backwards counties are probably watching this to see what happens. Hopefully it will all get resolved and people will figure out they can't discriminate against gay people just like they learned they couldn't discriminate against women or people of color.

  I agree this is likely a transition issue, hopefully it will get resolved and we can all go back to making fun of Donald Trump.
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  If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

  by DJS in

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  scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

  by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

  updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

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  To those who think Kim Davis should be allowed to not issue marriage licences to people she doesn't think should be allowed to get married:

  If a devout Muslim worked at the DMV, would you support his right to not give women a driver's licences?

  If not, why not?
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  EXACTLY Why JW's Are NOT Christian

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a lot of people, ex-jws, believers and unbelievers alike, think that jw's are just a somewhat kooky brand of christianity.

  is it possible to "try and follow jesus" and not be christian?

  what exactly makes someone a christian?

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  LisaRose

  Typical holier than than thou Perry post. *yawn*.
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  A comforting thought

  by Truth and Justice in

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  2. friends

  i have not been on the board in a long time, and as i started reading some of the posts, i could not believe how many new faces or names have appeared on this site.

  it is certainly alot more than i could count.

  it builds more confidence in me, that the other have of my immediate family will open their eyes.

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  I don't remember ever seeing this many new ones. I think the child abuse issues, total lack of love in the congregations and the governing body and their blatant demands for money are starting to wake people up.
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  Not one single head was lost on the wife birthday!!!!

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a surprised birthday party for the wife yesterday.

  we had no idea about the planned party.. the kids (wife daughter and husband) really surprised the wife and i. sunday morning a. truck pulled up and started unloading tents, tables and chairs.

  the son-in-law fired up the grill,.

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  That sounds like a really fun party. Isn't it great to enjoy simple things like this? Think about how much energy and thought the JWs put into avoiding things like this, and with so little reason. They end up with a life that is all about NOT doing things.
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  If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

  by DJS in

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  2. current

  scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

  by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

  updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

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  This woman is refusing to obey a direct court order. We are a country ruled by law, not religion. It is very appropriate to jail someone who refuses a court order, it's not some minor thing, the courts must have to have the ability to enforce the law. People can't just decide to disobey laws because of their religious beliefs and expect the courts to do nothing, that's not how it works.

  Many people have used religion to justify all kind of behavior, not allowing women to vote, discriminating because of race, interracial marriages, etc. Once those things were outlawed, they didn't allow people to do decide if they wanted to obey the law or not because of their religious beliefs, this is no different. It is a big deal when an elected official flatly refuses to obey the law, if they allowed her to do this there would be patchwork standards all over, some counties obeying the law, other not. You simply cannot allow that, it would be chaos.

  This woman is not being jailed for religious beliefs, she is free to believe gay marriage is wrong, she just isn't being allowed to use her beliefs to break the law by refusing to obey a court order.
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  Participate In The EX-JW Personality Test!

  by C0ntr013r in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  first of all; i must admit that i'm not a huge fan of putting people in boxes like this, it is not an exact science.

  but i still think the data can be quite interesting and i intend to collect it and share it in a structured way with you guys.

  so without future ado here are the details.. link to test: .

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  LisaRose

  I am an INFP, which is consistent with tests I have taken in the past.

  Towards the end of my time as a JW I learned a bit about the Meyers Brigs personality classification, it helped me understand why I found the meetings to be pure torture. I am an introvert, so I hate meetings in general. I am intuitive, so the plodding, rote teaching style was boring to me, I am a feeler, so shunning people and condemning those of other religions just never felt right and the strict rules and black or white thinking went counter to my perceiver nature. I had a theory that the people best suited to the religion are ESTJ, that possibly the group as a whole was ESTJ.
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  If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

  by DJS in

  1. social
  2. current

  scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

  by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

  updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

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  Do you find it hard to be around active JW's now?

  by EdenOne in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i do - actually, it's become close to unbearable.. and herein lies the paradox: i tried to fade in the illusion that i might keep contact with family and friends still "in".

  was it worth it?

  because not only most of them shun me anyways, but i find it almost unbearable to be around them, especially when the cult chit chat kicks in: every cute animal video clip triggers endless comments about glimpses of the future paradise and how "god did it"; those greasy praises to the organization and the governing body; the dumb awe about every jw broadcast and those cheesy music videos; the endless drivel against other religions when one knows perfectly well that we're no better than them; the endless flow of "experiences" of field service or spectacular conversions into "the truth"; the relentless congregation gossip; and so on .... i ask myself: is this why i am fading for ...?

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  LisaRose

  That's the problem with fading, you don't realise that you will change and grow when you leave, but your family and friends won't. Eventually you change so much you can't really have same kind of relationship.