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  Weldon Howze dies in California

  by SadElder in

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  many of us knew or knew of weldon howze.

  weldon was a good friend for more than 40 years, even after my fade from the dubs.

  this came to my in box today.. to all of weldons friends and family,.

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  LisaRose

  It doesn't surprise me that some saw him as a threat, he was too well known, a great speaker and loved by many, but he never quite fit the JW "mold", they couldn't have anyone like that have that much power. I suspected as much at the time but didn't ever hear exactly what happened.

  It also doesn't surprise me that he didn't condemn you for leaving, sadelder, he was a truly good and kind person, not judgemental at all. I am so glad I saw your post, otherwise I wouldn't have know he passed away.
  
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  Weldon Howze dies in California

  by SadElder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many of us knew or knew of weldon howze.

  weldon was a good friend for more than 40 years, even after my fade from the dubs.

  this came to my in box today.. to all of weldons friends and family,.

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  LisaRose

  No, I once did a search for him on the internet, but nothing, I was just curious, he was an interesting fellow, very unique. He was a very social guy, traveled a lot and had friends all over, but I guess he wasn't into the internet, not surprising, he was older. Whenever people found out I was from the area they would ask me if I knew him, he was that well known. I knew him in Ventura, but he lived in Santa Barbara from the eighties on. I last saw him in the ninties, ran into him at a party, he asked about my husband at the time who was disfellowshipped, as I said Weldon studied with him before he got baptized.
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  Weldon Howze dies in California

  by SadElder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many of us knew or knew of weldon howze.

  weldon was a good friend for more than 40 years, even after my fade from the dubs.

  this came to my in box today.. to all of weldons friends and family,.

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  LisaRose

  Two dislikes for saying I was sorry someone passed away? Seriously?

  Steve, I don't know the story, I heard some rumors, but nothing I care to repeat, it was a long time ago.
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  Weldon Howze dies in California

  by SadElder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many of us knew or knew of weldon howze.

  weldon was a good friend for more than 40 years, even after my fade from the dubs.

  this came to my in box today.. to all of weldons friends and family,.

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  LisaRose

  I knew Weldon from way back in the seventies, he studied with my first husband. He was a really great guy, was very well known and traveled a lot. I think he served at Bethel at one time. I am sorry to hear that he passed away.
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  What's More Important...Taking care of immigrants or the needy in your country?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i say take care of the needy ones first like our veterans and homeless and mentally ill, and then....take care of those not from this country.

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  LisaRose

  Agreed. That's why I am personally helping a family through a local church. I also donate money to Wounded Warriors, volunteer at my local pet shelter, donate to Angel Flight and always do Angel Tree every year.
  I'm trying to leave the world and at least a few people better than they were before I got here.

  Wow, good on you! How strange that you are doing what the opportunity suggested should be done, helping people in your own country, but two people saw fit to dislike that particular comment, I wonder why? I get that some people don't like you, you can be blunt and this is a political thread, but to dislike that fact that you help other people is petty and childish.
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  Samuel Herd: a woman saying "if she were a man....." is borderline being a homosexual

  by Khaleesi in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not sure if this was posted before... but apparently for the wt a woman's smaller cranium than a man's shows she was designed to be in submission to the man!!

  unbelievable he dared to say such things!.

  https://youtu.be/wqzc2m8_mba.

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  LisaRose

  How sad that a woman in an organization that devalues and marginalizes women would be criticized for simply for speculating what she might do if she had even a smidgen of respect or power, I mean, how dare she?

  In our house I am the one who has all the tools, in fact I have asked Santa to bring me a new jigsaw and drill for Christmas, as I have worn out the ones I have. Amazingly, my husband is not threatened in any way, lol.
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  I ate a REESES PEANUT BUTTER CUP

  by JWdaughter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it had a football printed on it!

  do they sell more because of it?

  do they think i need a reminder of the season (its been a rough season for football in seattle)?.

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  LisaRose

  If you think that was bad, this was a complete fail by Reeses.This blob is supposed to be a Christmas Tree.

  
  

  As far as this being a silly thread, you didn't figure that out from the title? If you think a thread is a waste of time, just ignore it and it will quickly drop out of sight, it's not necessarily to make someone feel bad for starting a thread that you are not interested in.
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  Privacy

  by Esmeralda001 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i need some advice guys.

  how do you get people to mind their own buiseness without coming off as rude?.

  i was invited to a jw gathering last night.

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  LisaRose

  Wow, if anyone interrogated me like that I would be unconcerned about being rude, as they have already been rude first.

  You could respond to nosy questions by

  "Why do you want to know"

  "If you will forgive me for not answering, I'll forgive you for asking"

  "Youll have to forgive me, I have to be somewhere/make a call"

  "Oh, my life is pretty boring, so let's talk about something else"
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  A question .....

  by Landy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys - new poster here.

  i was brought up a jw in the uk and stopped going not long after i was married.

  that was 20 years ago so i'm not really up to date with the current doctrinal flip flops or the new youtube obsessed gb.. came across this site while googling the name of a local elder who's just been convicted of possesion of a pc full of unpleasant pics of kids.. so, my question.

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  LisaRose

  A lot of here are actually out, I have been for fifteen years. People stay in for various reasons, usually family obligations. It's easy to say just walk away, but you aren't walking in their shoes, so why judge? They will leave when they leave.
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  What's More Important...Taking care of immigrants or the needy in your country?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i say take care of the needy ones first like our veterans and homeless and mentally ill, and then....take care of those not from this country.

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  LisaRose

  I don't understand why it has to be an either or proposition. Yes, help the needy here, but the situation with the Syrians is much more urgent. I get that it's more appealing to offer aid to those who live near us or who look like us, I am no different in that respect, but the people in Syria have lost everything; homes and jobs and often some family members. They risked death to get out and now no one wants them. These are people that worked or who owned businesses, many of them have savings, they have a lot to offer to any country that takes them in. The possibility of some of them being radical Muslims is there, but the risk is not as great as people fear, and good vetting and good Intel can reduce that risk. I just think sometimes you have to do the right thing, even if it poses some small risk.

  I can't help but draw correlations to the plight of the Jews in WWII. There was some knowledge on the part of the U.S. that Jews were being killed, some did manage to make it out of the country, but they had no place to go. The U.S. could have taken in more people, but they didn't. I imagine the reasons were varied, but they were probably not that different than the reasons we won't take Syrian Immigrants now. There was a lot of anti semitism, they were different, they looked different, they were Germans and we were at war with Germany, we had our own poor to take care of, etc. The New York Times had a policy to minimize reporting about the camps, the state department actively worked to discourage immigration.

  The middle east is in turmoil to a certain degree because the U.S. went to war against Iraq and destabilized the region, I think we have a moral obligation to help those who have been affected by what we did.

  Wikipedia:

  The United States also refused to grant temporary refuge to Jews fleeing Europe. In the wake of the Great Depression, the United States had a highly restrictive immigration quota system, but even the limited quota spots were not filled.[16] The Department of State refused to fill 90% of the quota spots that might have been available for European Jews.[17][18]

  
  

  It was Treasury official Josiah DuBois who, risking his career, authored his celebrated "Report to the Secretary on the Acquiescence of this Government in the Murder of the Jews" that documented State Department efforts to thwart Jewish immigration from Europe.[2