i would love to compile a list of the education obtained by the governing body members both past and present.
can anyone provide any information to get me started?.
it still amazes me they think they can translate ancient languages with an 8th grade education.
Most churches require a minimum of a bachelor degree plus seminary to lead even a small church, advanced degrees are not uncommon. That the leaders of a religion of the size of the Jehovah's Witnesss have not even completed four years of higher education tells you how under qualified they really are.
It also explains why they discourage higher education, they know that an educated membership would soon realize how horrible they are at translating and interpreting scripture.
this should be titled "jerks for jesus afraid of their own shadow, sexuality".
seriously, someone thinks that a video on how to be nice to people different from him is an affront to his god.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/federal-worker-would-rather-be-fired-than-watch-lgbt-diversity-video-god-doesnt-want-me-to-see-it/.
He would rather be fired than watch a video on how to treat people nicely? What an idiot. Did not Jesus say of a prostitute "let he who is without sin cast the first stone"? If he is a true follower of Christ he should want to show the same compassion. No one is forcing him to approve of or condone homosexuality, only to treat everyone with dignity.
Christians being persecuted because of their homophobia.
Requiring people to watch a video on how to do their job is not persecution.
greetings, fellow posters:.
wishing you well and offering my sympathy if you've ever experienced vertigo.
my neighbor is a physical therapist and told me about the epley maneuver, which i am now researching.. have you ever been through this hell of total incapacitation?.
It started with a virus for my husband as well, though later it happened again for no reason. Vertigo can be debilitating, it's pretty hard to function when your world won't stop spinning. He had something even weirder happen this week, driving down the freeway his vision went completly black for a few seconds. He pulled over and I drive him to the emergency room, but they couldn't find any problem to account for it. He went to his regular doctor this week and they are running more tests.
ok so this week's wt study article is entitled "why must we keep on the watch?"..
it is filled with statements on the importance of "being watchful" for the beginning of the "great tribulation".
paragraph 2: “keep looking, keep awake, for you do not know when the appointed time is.”after that, jesus admonished them repeatedly: “keep on the watch.”.
greetings, fellow posters:.
wishing you well and offering my sympathy if you've ever experienced vertigo.
my neighbor is a physical therapist and told me about the epley maneuver, which i am now researching.. have you ever been through this hell of total incapacitation?.
My husband had vertigo, he used the maneuver and it worked.
in recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?
as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.
there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.
I don't think it will make much difference to those theists that do not believe in evolution currently. There is now pretty much overwhelming evidence that we evolved, yet a certain percentage of believers will not accept it, so they probably will not accept any new evidence of how life originated either, they will just say scientists are mistaken or making it up.
As far as theists who accept evolution, I doubt any new findings will cause them to lose their faith in God, they will just accept the new evidence, but still feel that God exists, because they prefer to believe God exists.
hello :) so i know this guy for almost 6 years, i met him when i was 15 and i felt in love.
now i’m 21 and he is 22. we were in the same class and got along very well and he seemed to like me too.
when i confessed, face to face he haven't admitted and he haven't denied it and he acted like he liked me too but couldn't be with me because reasons bigger than him, but i was too young to understand and he was young to handle the pressure he had.
I am glad you understand what you are up against and are trying to move on.
Of course the best thing would be if he could leave, but that's a hard one. If he really knew the history of the religion he belonged to he might see that it is not at all what it claims to be. The problem is that Jehovah's Witnesses have been conditioned to suspect and not believe any thing that is critical of the Watchtower, and that goes double if it is from former members, as we are considered "mentally diseased apostates". This is how cults work and why it is so hard to break free. Even after I left the religion I still had some of this thinking, because it took me eight years before I felt comfortable enough to talk to other former members, I still believed the lie that they were all bitter vindictive people who want to destroy the faith of JWs. You can show a JW direct proof from a major newspaper that the Watchtower lied and they will say it's just a trick of Satan, it's hard to combat that kind of thinking.
If you are interested, I have compiled a list of suggestions on how to help people break free of the Watchtower. It's compiled from various posters who have been successful.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5729160790016000/guide-helping-other-break-free
It has some ideas on things to talk about, some information on cults and how they work and shyly me references.
i sat in town recently, right in the window of a nice wee pub.
within minutes i realised that i had a perfect view of a jw cart and the two ridiculously dressed jw's (they have absolutely no individuality at all.
what's more, they all look like they're going to a funeral).
I stopped going on the door to door work once I realized how pointless and ineffective it was. I couldn't imagine God being pleased that I wasted a morning doing absolutely nothing of any value. The street work is no different, a lot of time and energy wasted just to be able to mark some hours down on a piece of paper.
It's all about pleasing the organization, nothing to do with service to God.
a few months back i let it be known to my husband that i was no longer interested in anything jw related.
when he took it to the elders, without actually divulging anything that might get me disfellowshipped like apostasy - well, he just basically told them i was all depressed and discouraged and everything and that i didn't want to be contacted by the elders about it.
i don't know what he actually told them, word for word, or what they actually said to him word for word, but he told me they told him not to do anything spiritual with me at home anymore - no bible study, praying, daily text, meetings via phone, jw broadcasting, discussions, etc.
I'm sorry you are going through this, it sounds horrible. I don't know all your circumstances, but you may at some point have to consider moving on from the marriage. By all means give counseling a try, but in my experience most people don't want to change, they want the other person to change. Without obligation imposed upon you by the religion, what is there holding you two together?
Be honest in what you say in counseling, don't sugar coat it in an attempt to not be the bad guy. Your needs and wants are just as important to his, he doesn't get to dictate conditions because you chose to walk away from the religion. Don't feel guilty because you changed or cater to his Watchtower fueled delusions of a woman's place in the marriage.
Lisa 🌹
hello :) so i know this guy for almost 6 years, i met him when i was 15 and i felt in love.
now i’m 21 and he is 22. we were in the same class and got along very well and he seemed to like me too.
when i confessed, face to face he haven't admitted and he haven't denied it and he acted like he liked me too but couldn't be with me because reasons bigger than him, but i was too young to understand and he was young to handle the pressure he had.
My suggestion is to move on in your life and forget him. I know that is harsh, but you need to face reality. He is very conflicted between his beliefs and his feelings for you, but he needs to pick one and commit, otherwise there is no future for you, he is doing you a disservice by holding out hope of a possible relationship, it's cruel. The problem is that this is not a normal religion, it is a cult. They keep people tied up in these feelings of fear, obligation and guilt, it's really difficult to get them to make rational, independent decisions.
Even if he did marry you your life would forever revolve around his beliefs. You may think you could work with that, but it will get old. He will be looked down on for having married outside "the truth", you will be considered less than by everyone he knows. What happens when you have children? Do you want them going to the kingdom hall to be told everyone but Jehovah's Witnesses will die soon at Armageddon? Trust me, he will feel an obligation to teach them these things. Do you want to celebrate Christmas, birthdays and other holidays by yourself? This is the reality of life as an "unbelieving mate".
