Posts by LisaRose

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Neutered New World

by Labate in

if, as jesus said, there is no marriage in the afterlife, will our sex drive be removed?.

sex without marriage is fornication, which is a no-no.. if i were young and healthy, being surrounded by young, healthy women, having the normal male libido would hardly be paradise..

LisaRose

Yipee, can't wait until I get to grow a penis. 😉

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The point at which you think this may not be the truth

by LevelThePlayingField in

i remember one of the nights that i found out the truth wasn't the truth, that is after finding out about the united nations, i remember riding my bicycle from like 1am till 5am in the city night.

it was rather chilly, maybe about 55-60 degrees and i was playing pink floyd's dark side of the moon album in my earbuds.

just riding and riding, not really tiring because of the thought that 7 men in brooklyn had duped me, duped me for like 20 plus years.

I realized it was not the truth when It dawned on me that all joy had been sucked out of my life and that following the Watchtower's advice had resulted in me wasting 28 years in a bad marriage. I decided that if God existed he certainly couldn't be get any satisfaction out of my misery. I walked away and didn't look back, best decision I ever made.

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Evolutionist on their deathbed.

by Nimble duck in

i would really like to read the thoughts of an evolutionist as they lie on their deathbed.

their "honest to nogod" thoughts.

their terrors.

LisaRose

I fail to see how disregarding facts, logic and reason would impress any God worth worshiping, so I sleep really well at night and don't fear death, and I am probably closer to it than most here.

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Subliminal images - why and who are the individuals behind it?

by UnshackleTheChains in

i remember about 5 years ago reading on another site about subliminal images in wt literature.

i honestly thought it a load of bs until i checked out one glaringly obvious image of a creepy skull in clouds within the knowledge book.

i was shocked and even showed my wife at the time who thought it was creepy.. so my question is why?

LisaRose

Meh. So what if they have subliminal images? There is zero proof that subliminal images have any effect on anybody anyway. The regular pictures themselves are toxic in their own right, not to mention what is openly written.

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chasing me for a report

by Phoebe in

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friends

i'm fairly new on here and i've told a lot of my story but to recap, after 60 odd years i've stopped going to the meetings.

my husband had already left the truth years ago and my children didn't become jws.(phew!).

i had a horrendous childhood growing up as a witness which included sexual assault by a close relative, also a jw.

LisaRose

I would just tell them that you have personal issues right now and won't be going into field service in the foreseeable future, but you will be sure and let them know if you do have any hours to report, there is no need for them to contact you. You don't need to tell them that that day will never come.

This organization is all about reporting and structure and dotting their i's and crossing their t's, meanwhile, people with real problems are being ignored and wrongs are not addressed if it's not convenient to them.

Congratulations on your work on healing from your abuse and getting out of this heartless organization, your life will only get better.

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Would You Outlaw Jehovah's Witnesses If You Had Your Way?

by minimus in

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friends

i still believe in freedom of religion even if i disagree with the beliefsof the religion.

what about you?.

LisaRose

I don't believe you can outlaw beliefs, it's just counter productive, it usually had the effect of making people more determined.

I do wish we were better at teaching critical thinking skills in schools, because teaching young JWs to think and question their beliefs will enable them to more easily break free. Sadly I dont think you can do much for the adults.

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Opinions on family situation

by dogon in

my brother got married to a woman who was wild and selfish.

so for those who think i am just biased let me tell you the story.

he married her and about a year later she got pregnant.

LisaRose

I wouldn't get involved in that train wreck other than may be a yearly call to see how he is doing.

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How do you get over all the things that you missed? The stuff you can't get back

by JW_Rogue in

look my life is not bad but sometimes i just think about all the normal things i missed out on.

and no i'm not talking about christmas and birthday parties.

i'm talking about your first kiss happening in your twenties instead of your teens.

LisaRose

Everybody has regrets about their life whether they were JWs or not. Yes, if I had to do over again I wouldn't have spent one minute in that hateful cult. But not everything about that life was horrible, I was healthy, I had friends, a good job, I raised two great kids. I missed out on a lot too, but I make a conscious choice each day to be grateful for what I have now and I don't dwell on what I missed out on, because that would mean the religion was stealing even more of my life and I'm not going to let that happen.

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What is behind your choice of forum user name?

by stuckinarut2 in

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friends

just curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.

there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.

i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.

LisaRose

Welcome, Novicelocs14. If you ever go into a KH again I would love to see the looks on the faces as you walk in, lol.

Wake Me Up Before You Jo Ho. Kudos for a most original forum name, but now I have an earworm (song stuck in head).

Lisa is my real first name, rose because I love roses.

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DA myself to relieve great pressure?

by Isambard Crater in

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friends

my lifelong mental illnesses, fuelled significantly by the borg, are very bad at the moment and result in me missing lots of midweek meetings, but i haven't missed a sunday in years except the occasional vacation.. the nature of my mental and emotional illnesses mean that i, as a physically in and mentally out pimo, take to heart very painfully admonishment from the platform to never miss meetings, preach all i can, and so on.. okay, i report 3 hours each month on average and no elder has ever said anything, but when they make comments on the platform, i feel such great guilt and shame, but also anger, as they do not understand my illnesses and when i do mention my situation to elders, they kind of minimise and joke about it.. some other sisters in my congregation started "officially" not attending midweek meetings a few year's ago because of their own health circumstances, but i know for a fact that some elders look down on them for this reason, not showing real understanding deep down even if they do on the surface.. i have reached the point where i want to hand in a da letter as a cry for help, or more like a clear indicator to them that when i say i'm not well enough to attend midweek, i really mean it and it's not just an excuse.

sure, i'm only 42, but i can still be too fragile to go out at night with a 30 minute drive both ways..

LisaRose

You say that you know it's not "the truth", but are still looking for approval and permission from the elders to miss meetings? Why? This is an organization that publishes accounts of brothers in Africa who walk miles and cross alligator infested rivers to get to the Kingdom Hall, why would you imagine the elders, who have no education or training in mental illness, are ever going to give you permission to miss meetings due to mental health issues? They have been trained to believe that their are no good reasons to miss the meetings.

I believe this religion is toxic to sensitive, guilt prone individuals. Instead of looking for approval from the elders, work on freeing yourself from Watchtower induced guilt, the elders only have the power that you give them.

I highly recommend meditation, it has been very helpful to me.