ROFL What is it about cat lovers that is so healing? They rarely take themselves seriously (the owner, not necessarily the cat). I must introduce cats into exit-counseling. :-))
RNDY
(my new Hebrew name)
I eat cats fer brekfest.
Dogpatch
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Lost Parrot Tells Police His Address
by Perry inposted: may 02, 2012 5:36 am cdtend wndateupdated: may 02, 2012 5:36 am cdt.
end wndateend wnstoryheaderend wnstoryrelatedboxsource: afp.
sagamihara, japan -- a pet parakeet was returned to its japanese owner wednesday after the brainy bird told police its home address near tokyo.. link
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Perry sez,
The weirdest thing I heard was with a pair of Yellow Nape Amazons that I had just purchased from out-of-state. Upon letting them out of their Pet Taxi after their long flight, one of them said in a perfect whiney child's voice, "Is it going to hurt?" The mate answered in an adult's voice and said, "Uhh Huh". They kept saying this over and over. I was dating this super sensitive young woman at the time that taught special needs children and she was with me to hear it all. It really creeped her out and she wanted me to call the police. I had a hard time telling her that is was just a bird, not a child. She knew it with her mind, but she couldn't get past the instinct to help a child in trouble. The parrot speech was that real.
LOL. That made my day.
Randy
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I Miss Awakened at Gilead too
by wallsofjericho inlance?.
you doing alright bro?
we miss you around here.
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I love to see great people like Lance go on with their lives and FORGET about the WT. I can't because it's my job, but I have no family or personal haters towards me, so it can be fun. But for the rest of you, get off your tocuses and MOVE ON.
Get exit-counseled. Or learn how yourself. I have a 5-minute course... LOL
Randy
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another new WT break-ff group, here they come!
by Dogpatch inlikely this is going to snowball real soon.. i got this message in spanish:.
me, youlike manyexjehovah'switnesseswasadded toagroup called"let'send thedisassociation".
once the grouphas reached a certainnumber of membersof thegrouphas been transformed intouckg.
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Thanks for the correction, I only really learned French in High School. :-))
Dogz
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You Can Overcome WT Phobias!
by leavingwt inearly in the exit process, it's very important to begin overcoming irrational fears.
fear of the devil.
fear of god.
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yes OODAD,
The nose knows...
aka, our own built-in bull$hit detectors, set to bypass words and read a person like a dog would.
Randy
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Leroy's Great Dream
by Dogpatch in#23 letter from home: .
dear randy,.
leroy had a dream and he wonders what it means.
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http://www.armageddonokies.com
and finally, my favorite:
#11 Letter from Home
Dear Randy,
This will be just a quick note. I've got to run Bubba over to the junk yard over by Monett to pick up a couple new fenders and some doors for the Lincoln. We had a pot-luck supper over at brother Newly Ben Haad's trailer Monday night and I took some of my elderberry wine. Well, Bubba's not seeing too good when he comes home about midnight and when he comes to Jenkin's Creek dog leg bridge he sees two so he says he shuts one eye and heads for the middle one....takes the front left fender and both doors off. If that wasn't bad enough he stayed after the book study Tuesday to help Newly finish up leftovers and when he gets to the bridge commin' home he sees two again so he says that he's not gonna make the same mistake twice so he closes the other eye and takes off the right front fender and both right doors. He says that service really bothers him this morning when people slam their doors. This persecution is really getting bad.
I been workin' on a book-shelf fer all our new books we got when we got in the truth. I got it all done except for the shelf. Maw says that we should line em all up kind of by color so they go together...blue, green, yellow, yellow, purple, brown, and tan. Me and little Mike decided to paint the barn so we got the paint at the railroad using Theochronic warfare and we decided to rig a sprayer up using the John Deere and an old hose. Little Mike took out a sparkplug and cross-threaded a 3/8th nipple in there and wired that hose to it. Then he set a tee in the hose and run a spur line over to the paint vat and when he fired up that poppin Johnny we had paint balls the size of oranges sailin' 30 feet in the air. We got a fair amount on the barn before we ran out. Things was happening so fast that we didn't notice the circuit servant, Jup Setter and his wife Missey, drive up in their big ol' Buick dyna-flo. It's one of them slip juice drive clutch jobs with the fake holes in the hood. He's had this tick ever since when they was on the Huntsville to Brashears run back in May an lightening struck the tree where he was relievin' himself. She's nice though. Ran away once....up in the brambles. Coon hunters found her and brought her back down and she's been kind of prone to quiet spells after that....giggles to herself more than usual too. He says that we got the fastest growin' congregation in these parts but then practically all the sisters was pregnant after his first visit so I suppose that accounts for a lot of it but still we is always glad to get good news from the Society.
That Jup Setter and his wife Missey, they's stayin' with us for the week while he works with the congregation. He says that we get in the most hours of any of the congregations that he is assigned to. He said that he'd like to work with Bubba tomorrow. That'll be good for Bubba cause Monday's the big trash day since he don't make his run on Sundays. Sis told ol Jup to dig out his old clothes....he just stared at her. Maw blew a spit bubble when she said bye just now. Sis' new boyfriend Ben, son of widow Loyal's by her forth husband Hazz-Ben, was here for supper last night. He goes before the draft board again next Thursday. He's hopin' they'll sentence him back to Springfield. He said the two terms he did there was the best of all of em. These last times is sure hard to deal with all right.
Love from all, don't forget to write.
Clem
PS: LeRoy almost got in trouble for dirty pictures in the bus depot toilet, he would have except he signed your name.
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Leroy's Great Dream
by Dogpatch in#23 letter from home: .
dear randy,.
leroy had a dream and he wonders what it means.
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#26 Letter From Home
Dear Randy,
We have had quite the week here. The circuit servant, Jup Setter and his wife Missey, was here and during his Saturday program, New Things Returned, he talked a lot about the Memorial an seein' as how more publishers mean the end is closer and all, we were all real excited to hear the good news about all the anointed dying cause that means the end is closer too and we won't have to get the washing machine fixed or overhaul the John Deere. Anyways when he is talkin, well, LeRoy he goes in the broom closet in the Kingdom Hall and he finds the Memorial crackers what was left over and he sets about eatin' em. He would have finished off the wine too but me and brother Newley Ben Haad polished it off on the way home right after the meeting was over. Anyhow we all figure that if LeRoy can eat the crackers and likes em, then he must be an anointed. That would explain some of his behavior and why he seems to see things that the rest of us don't see and he hears people talking who we don't hear or see.
Almos Oover and his buck tooth kid Homer says that they think LeRoy is an anointed because he acts just like Almos' mother who was an anointed since she walked naked around the lake and read the foot-notes in the Truth Bible and understood them and that was right before she started repeating everything everybody said and the hard of hearing people liked it cause it saved them the trouble of asking everybody to repeat what they said.
Now LeRoy sits in the front row and takes notes that he says are secret and he will only talk to circuit servants and the company servant after the meetings and he pretends to be hearing spirits in the car on the way home so now we can't listen to The Lone Ranger on the radio anymore. Bubba doesn't like it. He used to yell "Hi Yoooo Silverrrr" with the Lone Ranger and slap his leg an pretend he's riding a horse.
Maw is doing good. There was a big sale at the Econo Mart and she bought eighty gallons of Clorox bleach fer a buck a gallon and she started to use that instead of soap on the laundry. Well, after the second week when we put our shorts on we put our fingers right through em and we pulled them apart and all that was left was the seamed part and the waist band. Made for extra leg crossing and the steps were kinda weird feelin'. Write when you can.
Clem
PS; LeRoy wants to know if there are any anointed out there so he will have someone to talk to when he comes out to see you next month.
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Leroy's Great Dream
by Dogpatch in#23 letter from home: .
dear randy,.
leroy had a dream and he wonders what it means.
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#23 Letter from Home:
Dear Randy,
LeRoy had a dream and he wonders what it means. He asked me to tell it to you and see if you knew. He's falling, falling, and when he wakes up he's in a seat in a Kingdom Hall somewhere, but he doesn't know where. The brothers are all wearing double breasted IBM business suits and the sisters are all wearing nylons and skirts that just touch the floor when they kneel. The babies are all awake listening to the speaker whose talk is closely following the societies outline. The boy children are all wearing small business suits and polished shoes with matching socks. Their fingernails are clean.
The girl children all are wearing white dresses and keep their eyes down. When a question is asked at the Watchtower study every single person in the Hall raises their hand, even the babies. Everyone who is called on to answer, paraphrases the answer in their own words with the idea directly from the Watchtower paragraph. During the entire meeting, which lasted three hours, no one got up to go to the restroom or get a drink. After the meeting everyone there lined up at the literature counter and picked up their magazine orders of thirty-six copies of each issue and then lined up at the contribution boxes to contribute two dollars per copy as an unrelated donation to the preaching work. After the donations were made everybody was smiling and talking to each other. No one has ever been disfellowshipped from this congregation because everybody simply accepts what is taught from the platform and in the literature. No one ever questions the Society or the elders.
When they left the Hall, everybody was driving clean new Buick four door sedans with Watchtowers taped to the lower left side of the back windows. They all live in ranch style government tract houses, get food stamps, have part time cleaning or painting businesses and pioneer full time. No one goes to college. The children are all home schooled or attend a public school where the teachers are all in the truth. The children don't talk to anyone not in the truth and don't take part in any after school sports. The mothers don't read romance novels or gossip.
Every day every family considers the day's text and reads the Watchtower comments about it. No one has any pets in the house or cooks with aluminum pans. No one has television and those with home computers do not access the Internet and only use the Watchtower CD for preparing talks. At bed time the children all go to their clean self made beds and sleep all night. The parents sleep together and pray before they have missionary sex and then they pray again after they have missionary sex. All fathers are elders.
We all think the doctors should change LeRoy's medicine. What do you think?
Clem
PS: After this dream LeRoy just sits in his chair and rocks and blows spit bubbles.
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You Can Overcome WT Phobias!
by leavingwt inearly in the exit process, it's very important to begin overcoming irrational fears.
fear of the devil.
fear of god.
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"New Light" on the URL: (same article)
Dogz
Try out this one for yer breakfast:
STOP being naive - the time has come to use your PRIMAL SENSES
A lot of us spend a great deal of time on discussion boards and elsewhere discussing the intricate doctrines of the
Watch Tower as if they were legitimate arguments from the Bible.One of these is the issue of blood and blood transfusion.
Another is "Who is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?"
or "What is the definition of "generation" given in the Bible, so we can prove the Witnesses wrong?
Time to stop and think what you are doing.
We discuss when and why people should be shunned or how they should be treated if they disagree with the Bible or the Watch Tower organization.
or "When did the 2520 years of the 'Gentile Times' begin?"
When was the destruction of Jerusalem, 587 or 607 BCE?
All of these discussions are important for those questioning the Watch Tower machine.
They can be quite valuable, and I am not dismissing the importance of them in certain contexts.
But usually the most oft-missed elephant in the room is,
WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING UNIQUE AND QUACKY DOCTRINES OF ONE OR TWO MEN WHO INVENTED THEM?
Don't you realize that doctrines are invented ON PURPOSE by SINGLE INDIVIDUALS living in their monk-like seclusion at the Watch Tower headquarters for control reasons, and NOT INVENTED by ALL at WT headquarters, but one or two men? Then the others VOTE on how useful that doctrinal change will be to keep the organization afloat?
Organizations will do anything to stay alive; individual issues like HONESTY and INTEGRITY are explained away using MORE DOCTRINE. People are expendable along the way. "Jehovah's Organization must be vindicated!"
Baloney. Time to wake up and smell the coffee.
Think.
Where did the idea of Jesus having an invisible return come from? Charles Taze Russell. And no doubt he borrowed that from some dissenting early Adventist who tried to reason his way out of why Jesus DIDN'T RETURN in 1844 or 1874. So millions of people spend decades arguing over a stupid idea that no one in the history of Christianity had bothered themselves with for 2000 years. Why? Because Jesus made it pretty plain how he would come back.
Millions argue whether the Bible condemns the transfusion of blood. Why? If it wasn't for two men living at Bethel, Fred Rusk and Gene Smalley, who currently invent all the little changes in blood fractions that can/cannot be used in a life-threatening situation, it would not be argued at all!
But who ever would have bothered themselves with such a question had not the Watch Tower INVENTED this doctrine back around the 40s, only 30 years after Pastor Russell plainly agreed that even EATING BLOOD was not a law unto Christians, and the Apostle Paul pointed out that Christians are NO LONGER UNDER LAW, AND IF YOU INSIST ON OBEYING LAWS AS AN ISSUE OF SALVATION that you put Christ back on the cross and are forever damned, all the time thinking you are being pious? That's what the "doctors of the Law" did, the Pharisees. Jesus said they were going to hell in a handbasket, because they were blinded to the simple, primal issues.
REMEMBER THIS AND DON'T EVER FORGET IT: The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania is NOT GOD. It is a worldly organization consisting of isolated, poorly-educated control-freaks that INVENT UNIQUE DOCTRINES to make themselves look different, and therefore more pious, than all others who call themselves Christians. Wow, that's really a new phenomena! NOT.
If you don't get the point, look at another "Christian" cult that has inane doctrines like the Mormons or Christian Scientists; doctrines that are SO IMPORTANT to their members and ex-members that they will argue over them for decades, just like us?
We laugh and dismiss their argumentation as a waste of time, because they can't see the forest for the trees.
Well maybe neither can you.
We can't see the old Wizard behind the curtain pulling levers and pushing buttons. We cower in fear. MAYBE THE ORGANIZATION IS RIGHT! OMG!
So what exempted Toto from being afraid of the Wizard, unlike Dorothy, the Tin Man, the Scarecrow and the Cowardly Lion?
Probably just his nose! He smelled A MAN behind the curtain.
The rest were being duped by their own minds. It's just like doctrine.
Doctrine has origins. Why do we not use our common senses to look behind the curtain first? Because we are not trained to do so.
Because we don't understand how magicians perform their slight-of-hand and mind trickery.
Even a DOG can be smart enough to see through the trickery of men.
Learn to use your common senses before you go off arguing logic and the invisibles that you cannot taste, see or feel.
Practically every Bethelite learns this lesson their first year or so; those in control are simply old men with a hunger for power and position. No Bethelite leaves fearing the Watch Tower organization unless they are duped by guilt and ignorance. They have seen who pulls the levers and pushes the buttons. There is nothing divine or miraculous to it.
What To Do?
Put your nose to the ground. Learn simple principles of common sense. Study magic, study mind control, study anthropology and human nature. Simple things that can be easily demonstrated.
Then you won't waste 10 years of your life wondering when the Paradise will appear, and when will Jehovah Dog destroy all the wicked who won't obey Gene Smalley and Fred Rusk because they took a blood transfusion.
With that in mind, we will go on Monday or Tuesday to discuss blood transfusions and why the Watch Tower has no argument to stand on, now that our noses are a little sharper. :-))
Two or three experts on the subject will hopefully satisfy your mind, and the scarecrows who are left can quit fearing Gene Smalley and Fred Rusk, and get a life. Then you can go play in the grass and have fun with Toto.
Randy
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Randall Watters On Watchtower's Prophesies Of 133 Years: Why No One Came True
by Scott77 in"...the world has changed and the watchtower is a 19th century laughingstock of a religion, the only prophet of jehovah for 133 years, and yet they are no more than a sick carnival act.
they have nothing to offer anyone anymore.
in 133 years not one of their prophecies have come true.
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The second generation drawers-of-water GB finally kicked Knorr in the ass by ending Gilead, his baby. How rude!
He can't even defend himself! His precious school of outstanding Bible scholarship is DEAD.
Could there be a little teensy-weensie bit of revenge mixed in with the more obvious cost-cutting?
A LOT of key players at Bethel back then literally hated Knorr. Mebbe a Knorr-purge is ahead... like a bad enema.
Knorr Wanted the Organization to Die Off But the foot swings back and kicks their own butts:
The Last Popes of the Watch Tower
The Ray Franz debacle of 1979-1980 was much different than what is happening in the current world of the Watch Tower. In 1980 the Governing Body was cocky and proud of their new-found power and authority, and weren’t about to let someone like Raymond Franz upset their aspirations. They had recovered from the false prophecy of 1975 as being the end of the world, and the members were growing again in leaps and bounds. Like bullies in the schoolyard, they took their turns kicking in the heads of the dedicated workers at Bethel that dared to question them, some of whom had spent decades working there for $14 a month.
But 30 years later the world has changed. Religious and political dictators are losing power. Corporate secrets are being exposed daily. Facebook, Twitter, Wikileaks and countless whistleblowers abound. The Watch Tower is about to be launched into a world of hurt that they will never fully recover from again. They are afraid, and for the last couple of years have been plotting numerous strategies to survive.
The average JW does not see it coming, as the WT’s desperate strategies can no longer be couched in terms of “new light”, or divinely-inspired doctrinal changes. The Watch Tower is a worldly organization, and organizations will do whatever it takes to survive. Heads roll, lies are fed to the media, disposable volunteer workers representing potential liabilities are neutralized through legal maneuvers.
Nowadays, “new light” is used, not to advance the power of a few or cover past blunders, but to cover over actual criminal activity that has gone unnoticed for years. This comes at a bad time, as the money is not coming in as before (no one wants to buy or read their childish magazines and books) and the average Witness smells a turd in the cupboard. The gossip is all over the Internet among Witnesses.
Just a few years ago a brave elder by the name of Bill Bowen, as well as a Bethel Writing Staff member Barbara Anderson, followed by others, began exposing their longstanding practice of harboring pedophiles in the organization. Even elders and members of the Governing Body were implicated, particularly Ted Jaracz. It was discovered that pedophiles in some congregations had long been transplanted to where their dirty deeds were unknown. Lawsuits began to cost them millions of dollars to keep this hidden from the public. Dozens of cases, just the tip of the iceberg as we now can see, were taken to court and are still on the rise. In spite of their efforts to hide the bad PR, Jehovah’s face was getting dirty and looking pretty ugly. His “faithful and discreet slave,” supposedly the only spokesmen for God on earth, scrambled to seal the cracks by putting the blame on others. “Jehovah’s organization” must be vindicated at all costs! Typical corporate tactics.
“New light” was quickly devised. No one else claiming to be of the “anointed” was to be listened to as an authority. The number of Memorial partakers of the bread and wine was rendered meaningless by saying the door to heaven was never really closed, and the “anointed” (except for the great and powerful OZ, the “faithful and discreet slave” (aka the Governing Body), were the only ones to be listened to. But Toto has pulled back the curtain to expose the lies.
A Few Hidden Tactics
Space precludes showing the dozens of politically-motivated changes made just in the last couple of years under the cover of “new light” to keep the flock in the dark. Just a few recent ones:
- There is now a public and a “private” version of the Watchtower magazine. The public version puts on a nice face; the private version continually stresses loyalty only to the Governing Body, lest any competition arise claiming to be from Jehovah and of the “anointed” as well. Beware the “apostates”!
- No meetings are allowed, not even private congregational gatherings, without the direction of the Governing Body. JWs gossip a little too much and must be kept silenced!
- Higher education is “allowed” in the eyes of the public, but in the secret elders book and District Assembly talks, college is heavily warned against, and some elders who allow their children to go to college are being removed from positions of authority. Their qualifications are being “reviewed.” As a result, the number of elders is dwindling; but loyalty is more important, so let them go!
- An increase of the number of “publishers” keeps being reported as on the rise around the world, while Witnesses can see for themselves that in most Kingdom Halls, seats are emptier than ever before. Practically everyone smells a rat on their “reports.”
- Publishers are being asked to pay for more and more things, like suggested donations for attending assemblies. Parking fees have consistently been charged in spite of an agreement with convention centers that parking is free.
- Publishers are to pay for the books and magazines they take door-to-door, and if they receive any monies from the householder, it is to go back to New York, thus getting double the money. And if the magazine and book counter doesn’t send in enough money to cover the “free” literature, the congregation is cut off from receiving more until their “bill” is paid. They literally send them an bill!
- Those who persist in having accounts on social networks like Facebook and Twitter are also subject to a “re-evaluation” of their position as an elder, and if they allow their children to have such accounts, their position will also be “re-evaluated.” Note one example of the Watch Tower’s “loaded language” in the article, "Samples of Watchtower Using Mind Control in Enforcing Obedience."
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