email me at [email protected] and I will post you some meails and numbers.
Randy
Dogpatch
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Hi! Anyone posting from the South FL area?
by Cotton Tail ini am a disassociated jw living in south florida looking for support in my area.
does anyone have any information?
the recent events have brought back many of the nightmarish doctrines drilled into my head as a young child and i am having difficulty working through them on my own.
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Are apostates stopping the WT from mainstreaming?
by expatbrit ini was thinking about this un thing.
on one of the threads, someone had commented how the wt's association with the un would explain a lot of the changes in wt policy regarding blood, disfellowshipping etc.
i think this is likely.. it is entirely possible therefore, that the un association has been a good thing.
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Fundamantalist religions often follow certain predictable paths, due to the psyche of the leadership and the needs of the subjects. Money has a great deal to do with it. If the GB thought Armageddon was going to be tomorrow, some would be unhappy because of the "great increase in theocratic work in the earth today," (buildings, etc.)Like the transition from the early persecuted church that became more mainstream due to less persecution, more money as well as the impractibility of living in the "near midnight" framework causes the pragmatists to speak up and have a say in the government of the sect. They will not let their billions be squandered by fanatics. When the Watchtower reaches a point of division between hard line "true believers" and the pragmatic businessmen, the money baggers might find a way to chase the fanatics away who will then start their own version of the Watchtower. The original Borg can retain its billions and be happy for the rest of their lives!
http://www.freeminds.org/history/history.htm
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Im not tough
by joelbear inabout a week after the september 11th thing when i was feeling devastated and in total despair, i went through an "i give up" phase.. i came out of that phase (or thought i did) with a new gung ho, i ain't gonna take no crap concept of myself.
you probably saw my post about marshall arts.
this was gonna all be part of this new tough, ready to fight, kind of guy.. well, i'm not tough.
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Hi April!
No, I was just stirring up the pot. If you like Goth schlock, its very good, but not for the meek-hearted! Adrienne Barbaux (sp?) and Rose McGowan are da bomb!
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You are harming loyal JW
by beroea inyou are harming loyal jw.
i have been taken a closer look at many of the posters here on this board.
most of you are very critic about the jw and special about doctrines.
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Everyone should be happy!
Hi Times and the Brooder House Fox
Dear Randy,
Well you was right. That ol' fox is back as soon as we got them new chicks. He dug under the fill dirt corner again and got six chicks Sunday night. We set up all night Monday an Tuesday an not a thing, but it all come to a head on Wednesday night. We had all been to town in Bubba's Lincoln doing back-calls on the not at homes from the special talk campaign, you know the one where we was tellin' all of them church people that they ain't Christian cause they ain't feelin' guilty about their sins like us, an they's too busy enjoyin' life to notice how bad things is. The Judge was right about those churches. You can tell they are evil the way they laugh and smile so much. Bubba says to pretend to not notice when they wave. It's times like this when it's easy to see why he's an elder. Anyways, Maw was drawin' a bead on that fox about midnight when that new dog, Hi Times starts humpin' her leg. She lets out with a holler and lets both barrels fly. I don't know how many times we warned her about that sawed off shotgun and them hot loads but she went over backwards and rolled all the way down to the creek. She got two black eyes and lost another front tooth. She says Bubba needed a new windshield in the Dodge anyway.
We are having Half Way Hallie over for supper tonight. You remember her. She's on Bubba's magazine route over by Eureka. Bubba kind of likes her but since she ain't in the truth he don't feel right about askin' her out so he wants to show her how happy we all are with the truth. The Judge says it's wrong to get married in the old world but we noticed that he's married. Bubba says these things are only suggestions. He says truth people can go with someone if they are studying the Judge's books. He says that makes them sheep and marriage and sex with sheep is okay. We never looked at it quite that way before.
It was Granny's birthday last week Tuesday but since we don't celebrate birthdays we had the party on Wednesday. We all bought her presents and made sure she knew that they wasn't birthday presents. Bubba said to just call it Granny appreciation day and it would be okay with the truth. We know we have the truth since we are willing to give up all these worldly celebrations. We know true brotherly love is to ignore people on their real birthday an stuff. The truth says birthdays are pagan but anniversaries are okay with them. We all seen the logic in that okay.
Well, write when you can. Love from all.
Clem
PS: LeRoy wants to know if he can bring Hi Times with him when he comes to visit you this summer.
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Im not tough
by joelbear inabout a week after the september 11th thing when i was feeling devastated and in total despair, i went through an "i give up" phase.. i came out of that phase (or thought i did) with a new gung ho, i ain't gonna take no crap concept of myself.
you probably saw my post about marshall arts.
this was gonna all be part of this new tough, ready to fight, kind of guy.. well, i'm not tough.
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Hang in there, Joelbear. You already have a worldwide brotherhood right here. Remember this is a BOARD though. People do and say things they would never do in person. On my board, I had a guy call me everything in the book because I asked him to calm down on attacking the Catholics there. He flipped out!
Then we talked on the phone, and became good friends. I never took the threads off my board, they are still there somewhere. It makes me proud. :-))I think if you met Tallyman, Fred and others in person you would have some really good friends forever. That has been my experience with this sort of thing. Keep looking for the best in others, and be yourself. Life is too short NOT to have a good time!
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Randy Watters Targeted by CESNUR
by Kent inhi randy - you have reasons to be proud!
on http://www.cesnur.org/2001/london2001/cowan.htm the cesnur is quite clear they don't like the activities of the terrible randy.
here is a quote:.
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Next thing you know I'll be cussing and riding a Harley!
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THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL JEHOVAH'S WITNESS SITE
by nyc_gal inthis site is not an official website of jehovah's .
witnesses.
i cannot believe some of the horrible things i have read here.
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from the REAL Watchtower website:-))
#23 Letter from Home:
Leroy's Great Dream
Dear Randy,LeRoy had a dream and he wonders what it means. He asked me to tell it to you and see if you knew. He's falling, falling, and when he wakes up he's in a seat in a Kingdom Hall somewhere, but he doesn't know where. The brothers are all wearing double breasted IBM business suits and the sisters are all wearing nylons and skirts that just touch the floor when they kneel. The babies are all awake listening to the speaker whose talk is closely following the societies outline. The boy children are all wearing small business suits and polished shoes with matching socks. Their fingernails are clean.
The girl children all are wearing white dresses and keep their eyes down. When a question is asked at the Watchtower study every single person in the Hall raises their hand, even the babies. Everyone who is called on to answer, paraphrases the answer in their own words with the idea directly from the Watchtower paragraph. During the entire meeting, which lasted three hours, no one got up to go to the restroom or get a drink. After the meeting everyone there lined up at the literature counter and picked up their magazine orders of thirty-six copies of each issue and then lined up at the contribution boxes to contribute two dollars per copy as an unrelated donation to the preaching work. After the donations were made everybody was smiling and talking to each other. No one has ever been disfellowshipped from this congregation because everybody simply accepts what is taught from the platform and in the literature. No one ever questions the Society or the elders.
When they left the Hall, everybody was driving clean new Buick four door sedans with Watchtowers taped to the lower left side of the back windows. They all live in ranch style government tract houses, get food stamps, have part time cleaning or painting businesses and pioneer full time. No one goes to college. The children are all home schooled or attend a public school where the teachers are all in the truth. The children don't talk to anyone not in the truth and don't take part in any after school sports. The mothers don't read romance novels or gossip.
Every day every family considers the day's text and reads the Watchtower comments about it. No one has any pets in the house or cooks with aluminum pans. No one has television and those with home computers do not access the Internet and only use the Watchtower CD for preparing talks. At bed time the children all go to their clean self made beds and sleep all night. The parents sleep together and pray before they have missionary sex and then they pray again after they have missionary sex. All fathers are elders.
We all think the doctors should change LeRoy's medicine. What do you think?
Clem
PS: After this dream LeRoy just sits in his chair and rocks and blows spit bubbles.
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"Excited brothers" crap
by FreeFallin incould someone please give the the thread or the actual info on the name of the publications that said something like "some have gone so far as to simplify their lives, move where the need was great,etc.
"(all pre 1975) and then after a. didn't come as expected, an article was written stating that "some foolishly sold their belongings, etc.
" i may have the books in question and would like to show my husband in black and white.. i have gone back over all the threads but i'm getting dizzy.
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Dogpatch
You will probably find all the 1975 statements right here:
http://www.freeminds.org/history/part4.htmYou can also get the whole range of dates and their comments in book form if it is easier:
http://www.freeminds.org/sales/books.htm
entitled, SPIRITUAL FOOD AT THE PROPER TIMEthnaks to Farkel and others for compiling this.
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WT-UN: The Bottom Line
by comment inwhen the watchtower society applied to become a un ngo, they had to agree to support the un.. it *doesn't matter* what their purpose in applying was.
it could have been to further the preaching work, to be more like all the other religions, or to get lloyd barry's wife off his back because she'd been bugging him for weeks about how much fun it would be to do something with the un.
it doesn't matter.. they had to agree to support the un.
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They have been disseminating their information now for some time!
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JW Response to NGO/UN info
by Andrew Farrell infollowing is the response of a jw to the information regarding the un/ngo status of the watchtower society.
it seems not all will see with clarity the hypocritical position of the organisation in this matter:.
andrew,.
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Hi Hawk,
Just putting up the documents now on my UN update site at:
http://thetruthhurts.freeservers.com/unitednations.htm
Sheesh!
Can you guys "slow down" with all the new light?
I'm getting blinded (by science!)
Dogz
Henschel hanging out on a good day with the UN-type buddies!