no, Cygnus, I am not gay. I have had several relationships with women over the years.
Why do you ask?
Randy
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Why I Do What I Do - Randy Watters
by Dogpatch inhi friends,.
i have been overwhelmed by the number of witnesses contacting me on the net lately.
traffic to the site has more than tripled since feb. 1999, and i am getting tons of email every day.
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Why I Do What I Do - Randy Watters
by Dogpatch inhi friends,.
i have been overwhelmed by the number of witnesses contacting me on the net lately.
traffic to the site has more than tripled since feb. 1999, and i am getting tons of email every day.
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Many exit-counselors I know are Christians, and many are not. As a professional of sorts, that should not affect your strategy in an exit-counseling. Steven Hassan is the best in my opinion, and he is not a Christian. He has helped me a lot in life!
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Why I Do What I Do - Randy Watters
by Dogpatch inhi friends,.
i have been overwhelmed by the number of witnesses contacting me on the net lately.
traffic to the site has more than tripled since feb. 1999, and i am getting tons of email every day.
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Hi friends,
I have been overwhelmed by the number of Witnesses contacting me on the net lately. Traffic to the site has more than tripled since Feb. 1999, and I am getting tons of email every day. One Witness just pretended to be Ray Franz and was trying to get my goat on something! Watch out for raymond_franz@ whatever, since I do not think Ray is even on the net. Just a careful note.Anyway, it is time for me to provide a little nicer portal to the Witnesses who visit, since they are the ones I most want to help. I might tone down a little of my sarcasm as well. :-))
Always open to good suggestions.
http://www.freeminds.orgMany of the ones writing have been in the Watchtower for years. Many are elders, circuit overseers, and so on. Many would quit if they could, others will stay put indefinitely. But the most common question is, "Why are you doing what you do so intensely? Is it bitterness?" and "Where do you expect people to go?"
That is difficult because of my work as an exit-counselor and working with religious beliefs and devotion. It is my personal belief that a person should be brought to the point where they can make an intelligent decision on their own as to what faith they will chose or whether they will choose one at all. No coercion. I am not an inerrantist nor a fundamentalist, but I do have my faith in Christ from many years ago. I believe that so many people who claim to be Christians should at least be aware of the beauty of grace, and the real issues as to why the Watchtower is the real apostasy from Christianity, regardless of what you believe of the nature of Christ, Trinity, or whatever. Ray Franz wrote extensively about this "grace", and keep in mind that in spite of our differences in some areas, we experienced the same monumental change in understanding while still at Bethel. So without getting too wordy, I will share one of my letters and my response.
It is also up at:
http://www.freeminds.org/why.htmcomments welcome.
Randy Watters__________
Why Do I Do What I do?
by Randall Watters
A Response to a current Jehovah's Witness
Original email sent by a Witness from the United Kingdom:
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Randall,
The new info you sent re UN involvement of WT was very interesting.
However, was the purpose of registration as a NGO really a sinister connivance with the UN on the part of the WT or just a way perhaps obtaining useful info from them for the publications.
As I understand it, you spent many years in Bethel, and I'm sure have left many friends behind. Don't dedicate the rest of your life criticizing what they are doing in all sincerity. I'm sure you feel very bitter about a range of issues. But negative feelings and destructive behavior cannot help.
I don't agree with everything the WT society does and wish it was more open minded on a range of issues. I have an open mind and refuse to be told what I can and cannot read etc. The internet is opening many doors that the ultra conservative members of the governing body (who I guess won't be with us much longer anyway....average age 97!) would not like to have opened. (eg UN issue you have recently highlighted) However. I think your web site and publications would receive a lot more respect if they were more balanced and positive. Tearing down all the time is wearisome reading! You never mention the millions who thoroughly enjoy the lifestyle and education received through the WT organization.
Anyway, I thought you might have appreciated the feedback and hope you are finding spiritual satisfaction in your new church (what is that by the way?).
(name withheld from U.K.)
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Randy Watters' response:
Thank you for taking the time and the humility to write, friend!
Actually your timing is right on, as I have been looking for helpful and constructive criticism.I have gone through many passages after leaving the Watchtower.
The first began at Bethel in our private Bible studies after the Monday night Watchtower Study for the Bethel family. I was using The Living Bible for a breath of fresh air, having read the New World Translation through several times. The poring over Romans and Galatians, and the subsequent discovery of the meaning of salvation by grace ("undeserved kindness" according to Witnesses) was by far the most incredible and world-shaking event of my life.
At that moment I knew that the Watchtower had taught us to be Judaizers; those who believe they somehow contribute to their salvation. It was an incredible feeling to read Paul's letters to the early Christians as if it was written DIRECTLY TO ME. The indescribable joy of understanding what I call the PRIMARY DOCTRINE of the New Testament (salvation by grace).
"Now to the one who works, his wage is not reckoned as a favor, but as what is due. But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is reckoned as righteousness." (Romans 4:4,5 NAS)
Sure I knew the Watchtower's explanations of all their interpretations of texts. But I was suddenly being enlightened to see the whole New Testament differently, so I used another Bible and pretended I was just an ordinary person reading this for the first time. The road of discovery had just begun. I could not get enough of grace! It was emotionally exciting, and I felt a wonderful peace that strengthened me to survive the intense anger of the Governing Body towards this unfamiliar "apostasy" that was forming. This "apostasy" was no more than a new and clear understanding of the issue of God's grace, and how we are set free from oppression by men and/or organizations. Parts of "Christendom" have known it for centuries, embarassingly enough. A few months later, I decided to leave Bethel while on vacation in Calif. I requested a special leave from Governing Body member Dan Sydlik, and had my Bethel roommate ship my things back home. I wanted to share my faith with my family: my mom and sister and brother-in-law were Witnesses.
At this point, few at Bethel knew of my personal changes. I had been a strict organization man, and none had suspected me. I performed all of my duties well as a Bethel Elder and a floor overseer in the pressroom. Only my roommate and a handful of others, many of whom had already left for the same reasons (the rantings of the Governing Body) knew how I felt. So coming back to Calif. was not a "showdown" with the Witnesses. I had no bitter pills along the way, and no one person had ever done me wrong as a Witness. I have no reason to be bitter against anyone, but I DO have strong principles. One is to respect others as equal human beings, and to work within that realm of respect when matters are disputed. Most of all, TELL THE TRUTH. I had no negative feelings about other Witnesses, just a very bad impression of the true cowardly nature of those on the Governing Body. I lost all respect for them forever, in much the way a child would lose respect for his dad if seeing him sexually abuse another child. They were chronic abusers of people. THAT is my main message, if one could say that I had a "main" message. STOP the abuse!
Wisely I decided I needed time to sort all of this out. I was working in printing in Los Angeles and living in Manhattan Beach. Should I go to the local Kingdom Hall and say hello? I didn't want to leave the organization, as I did not see it as a cult or as heretical. Yet, my greater understanding of the New Testament, coupled with my hunger to learn much more than Witnesses have to offer, led me to study the Bible for a couple of months before going back. It was a wonderful time. Then I went to a meeting at the local Kingdom Hall in El Segundo, and told them who I was. Within a month, I was an elder again. Going door-to-door with only the Bible. It didn't take long to know I could not stomach playing out a religion that didn't even have a clue to historical Christianity, as far as I was concerned. I wanted to be around others who were like myself, so I started attending a local surfers' church that taught the simple gospel of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. Shortly thereafter, I turned in a letter to the 18 members of the Governing Body and sent it to them, along with copies to my previous congregation as well as the El Segundo congregation, as a letter of disassociation. I never set foot in a Kingdom Hall again. And I was born again (again).*
"He who eats My flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. For My flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me; and I in him." (John 6:54-56 NAS)
The next stage picks up in the evangelical church environment of Hope Chapel in Hermosa Beach, Calif. The difference in love and respect for one another was something I had not often seen in a Kingdom Hall. Grace was a common theme in sermons, and giving and helps were readily practiced. I volunteered to work with the handicapped for awhile. They didn't even know I had been a Witness for a year, when a female friend "outed" me for being a former Witness. I was years later on the teaching circuit about Jehovah's Witnesses, all over California and eventually other countries.
The gospel, evangel, or "good news" of the New Testament is the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. (1 Cor. 15:1-4) This is the main message to be preached, that I was now certain. It's all over the NT, but especially focused in Paul's writings. To play down the importance of that was heresy.
"For Christ did not send me to baptise, but to preach the gospel, not in cleverness of speech, that the cross of Christ should not be made void. For the word of the cross is to those who are perishing foolishness; but to us who are being saved it is the power of God." (1 Cor. 1:17,18 NAS)
I ignored the whole Witness world for about a year, when I became more burdened to do something about religious leaders that were misleading millions of innocent people. The leaders, in the light of Paul's words, were Judaizers, of whom Paul had said,
"Even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed." (Gal. 1:8 NAS)
"For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written, 'CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT ABIDE BY ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW, TO PERFORM THEM.'" (Gal. 3:10 NAS)
I had been a Judaizer myself. I counted hours, preached about everything as a Witness BUT the gospel, and whose works were really under a curse. The curse included a life of rules and subtle "suggestions," offered by "spiritual fathers" who were themselves under the curse, and knew nothing more but to pass the curse on generation to generation. As a sign of the curse: To this date there has never been a true spiritual revival in the organization's leadership. No candid apologies for the failed prophecies and dates; no regret over bad policies affecting millions of innocent lives. Only cover-up and finger-pointing to others. Very sad.
I had to let the truth of my own personal experiences at Bethel be known. Crisis of Conscience had not yet been written, and nothing by a former member was in print about the atrocities I had seen. The Spirit of Christ compelled me. I met author Edmond Gruss (Apostles of Denial, 1970) and that night wrote the tract, What Happened At The World Headquarters of Jehovah's Witnesses in the Spring of 1980? My pastor at Hope Chapel offered to print 10,000 copies free of charge and I sent them out all over the world. Thus began my ministry to set people free of that bondage and show them something better. I have never regretted that decision, and I enjoy my work immensely to this day.
I am Irish, friend, and I am a fighter. I have a kind heart and a good spirit. I do not tolerate liars. And when those who claim to be "fathers" over millions of innocent people abuse their children without repercussions, I said enough is enough. Someone has to get their hands a little dirty, and take all the flack. Like I said, I am a fighter. Humor and sarcasm, however, are more often my tool of trade. Blowing the cover off of the Emperor's Clothes, so to speak. But being careful not to be too offensive. That's where you can help me. I would appreciate specific tips from you.
As time went by, I fell in love twice but lost it, began full-time ministry to reach Witnesses, started my own church as a licensed Foursquare pastor, and after three years gave up all ties with organized churches. Not from my dissatisfaction with them, however. I had developed Crohn's Disease and public speaking and being around strangers became a major aggravation to it. It took years to finally find some natural remedies to drive the disease into submission. Even to this day I have a limited diet, but no drugs necessary.
I spent more time around the anti-cult organizations of the day, learning about mind control, other methods of patriarchal control, etc. Steven Hassan became a personal friend and taught me many things, even doing several exit-counselings together (not just on Witnesses, the same controls are used by many groups). I traveled around the world, speaking for groups. As my perceptions of the world we live in and its varied peoples and interpretations of life invariably changed, so did I. I had not been too comfortable in churches watching many of the same manipulative tricks as used by others. By this time having lived in the same beach neighborhood for 11 years, I spent more and more time with the locals, young and old. We were a large family, and I needed no other. I still live here, and I still don't. :-))
So in answer to your question, I have no church but my neighborhood, and it is a good one!
I know that many people enjoy life in the Watchtower. For many, it is my personal opinion that they should stay where they are, as it does preserve sanity for some people, for many reasons. I am here for the others, who are looking. No matter which direction they will take.
Thank you and kind wishes,
Randy Watters* the first time I gave my life to Christ and received the Holy Spirit was as a child, attending a Billy Graham concert. I asked my parents if I could go down and pray on my own. I prayed every night from that point onward.
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Dag Hammarskjöld Library
by Dogpatch ina response to an inquiry about gaining access to u.n. libraries:.
dear mr. brewer,.
in answer to your questions:.
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A response to an inquiry about gaining access to U.N. libraries:
Dear Mr. Brewer,
In answer to your questions:
1) Although the Dag Hammarskjöld Library and the NGO Section are both
within DPI, admission to the Library is not related to NGO status except in
the positive sense: anyone with a pass permitting entrance to the United
Nations premises (including accredited NGO representatives as well as
accredited members of the press) can enter and use the Library facilities.
Otherwise, a library pass is required. Passes are granted to serious
researchers upon presentation of a letter with the raised seal of your
institution and subject to clearance by both the Library and UN Security.
Please contact [email protected] for further details.
2) Depository libraries are open to the general public and should be
approached first, as most often they have the materials you require.
3) I am not aware of any changes in 1991.
4) Our name is the Dag Hammarskjöld Library. Please contact our website at
http://www.un.org/Depts/dhl/ for information on our products and services.
The Cambridge University Library is a full deposit with material going
back to 1947, and, as stated above, the depository collection is mandated
to be open to the public.
Phyllis Dickstein, Head Librarianhttp://www.thetruthhurts.freeservers.com/dag.htm
United Nations updates:
http://www.thetruthhurts.freeservers.com/unitednations.htm
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Ballad of Watchtower Hillbillies
by Dogpatch infrom "scully".
before reading, kindly set your banjos to "the beverly hillbillies".
the ballad of the watchtower hillbillies (by scully).
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This is more permanently up at:
http://www.thetruthhurts.freeservers.com/
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Ballad of Watchtower Hillbillies
by Dogpatch infrom "scully".
before reading, kindly set your banjos to "the beverly hillbillies".
the ballad of the watchtower hillbillies (by scully).
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from "Scully"
Before reading, kindly set your banjos to "The Beverly Hillbillies"
The Ballad of the Watchtower Hillbillies (by Scully)
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Now listen to a story about the Watchtower Crew
The followers’ll tellya everything They say is True
But then one day when the sky was clear and blue
The closet door flew open and there they were with U…..
N that is……
United Nations, shenanigationsWell the Wild Beast admitted to a 9 year long love fest
With old Uncle Miltie and Freddie and the rest
The Governing Body was caught with their pants down
Whoring with the Wild Beast without so much as a reach-around
“Do not touch the disgusting thing”
Hear ‘em sing……Folks were all a-flutter about this Unholy mess
Accusations and denials flew in alt.religion.jehovahs-witn
Finally from Brooklyn came the ‘reassuring’ word
“Yes we were affiliated; what on earth is so absurd??”
It was writ
HypocriteLloyd and Uncle Miltie were caught with their pants down
Cavorting with the Great Red Beast that makes good jWs frown
“Touch not the unclean and disgusting thing” the Watchtower would say
Yet here they were, in secret, a-going ‘all the way’
“What you sow
You shall reap”The Friends all gathered ‘round and rallied their support
“The Brothers had their reasons, no matter what the sort”
It made no difference, the years of filthy lies
About whoring with the Scarlet Beast, without an alibi
Fornicate
Then berateReally when you’ve thought on it, it should come as no surprise
That a loving God will expose a Wicked Wolf in disguise
They are not at all held dear as favored sons and daughters
So have no fear, their end is near, get ready for the slaughter
The Beast will turn
Let the REAL Harlot burnDear friends and neighbours take a warning about this and other cults
They want to control the minds of all, children and adults
Recruiting new members with talk of Paradise
To charm the unsuspecting and ensnare them in their evil pack of lies
They’re uncouth
It ain’tThe Truth™The moral of the story is that cultish crap piles deep
The leaders do whatever they want and keep the membership asleep
Caught compromising with the Scarlet Beast, don’t you dare expect them to weep
After all, it’s over a hundred years that they’ve been screwing “sheep”
Break free
From BeastialityY'all come back now, y'hear!!
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Understanding Cult-related Terror
by Dogpatch inarticle of the month.
understanding terror.
by ron taggart.
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Article of the Month
Understanding Terror
By Ron Taggart
A former cultist provides unique insight into the making of terrorist, and a warning if we misunderstood the nature of the threat.
The author is a former member of a Bible-based cult; the vice-president of Cult Information Services of Northeast Ohio (CISNEO); and co-chairman of The Leo J. Ryan Education Foundation's 2001 Conference, Cults and Terrorism: Abuse of the Vulnerable, held October 26-28 in Cleveland, Ohio.
A group of men is awoken sharply at four in the morning. Each one thinks to himself, "I wish I could sleep just a little longer." Anyone not awake, on his feet, and ready for morning exercises can expect a strike with a board in his stomach or groin, or some other punishment to be meted out later. It is winter, and each man hurries to pull on his stiff and frozen boots. In summer, the smell of manure from the animals housed below permeates the loft where they sleep, but the cold weather keeps the aroma of the animals they live with at bay. A war veteran leads forty-five minutes of grueling exercises, including two hundred pushups and one hundred fifty sit-ups. A quick two-mile run ensues, with each man carrying a staff or club. After the run, all the men file into the animals stalls to urinate--no one had wanted to waste even a minute of their precious sleep time getting up early to urinate before exercises.
They file into the warm house where their leader sits; he will lead everyone in prayer and their daily devotion to God. Many begin to nod off as soon as they are seated, but a jab in the ribs and the fear of being caught sleeping when they should be worshipping G od keeps everyone on edge. The women in the compound serve the men breakfast; and their leader sits as a commoner among them at the table, which is soon enveloped in raucous laughter. The shared hardships of their life bind the men in a camaraderie they all cherish.
Breakfast ends and the men file out of the warm house. All spend the next half-hour tending to the numerous animals. It is now 6:45 a.m. Some will stay in the compound all day, tending animals, repairing buildings, and working in the fields. Most will leave the compound to hitchhike to jobs in the city or suburbs. The select few who own broken-down vehicles struggle mightily to stay awake as they drive. Each remembers that three of their members have already died from falling asleep at the wheel, and they are determined not to be the next. Each man struggles hour after hour with his friend and enemy, sleep.
It is five-o'clock in the afternoon and the men begin their trek back to the compound. The vagaries of their modes of transport mean some will arrive back as late as 6:30 in the evening. As soon as they reach the compound, they begin their work tending to the animals. Dinner follows for most, but some are fasting, they believe fasting will help bring them closer to God. After dinner, the lieutenants have lists--lists of arduous work to be performed, and lists of punishments to be handed out for the previous day's infractions. For most, their fate is assignment to a work crew, but others are not so lucky. One will be forced to run ten miles for the crime of not washing the goats properly before milking, another, five miles for failing to wake up on time.
After dinner, it is out to the fields for more work. Each one secretly hopes it will be only work this evening--drudgery that may last until twelve, one, or two-o'clock in the morning. But tonight a meeting for worship and political instruction is called. Even though they revere their leader as a great prophet, inwardly, they fear him. No one will admit it, but the hard labor is preferable to sitting in a meeting where they listen to lessons on their Holy Book from their leader, lessons and harangues that can last up to four or five hours. Individuals are singled out for criticism in front of the group. One is sentenced to forty lashes with a bullwhip. His crime? --wearing dirty socks to prayer. Everyone struggles to stay awake. Finally the meeting ends at 1:00a.m. The watch list is posted: eight unlucky men have drawn guard duty. The little sleep they have remaining will be interrupted by a twenty-minute guard duty between now and 4:00 a.m. Some wash before retiring, others fall filthy and exhausted into their makeshift beds.
A group of men is awoken sharply at four in the morning. Each one thinks to himself, "I wish a could sleep just a little longer..."
The foregoing is an account of what my life was for nearly four years, not in some Middle Eastern terrorist training camp but on a farm forty-five minutes from Cleveland, Ohio in the mid 1970's. Since leaving this fundamentalist Christian cult in 1977, I have spent considerable time and effort in gaining an understanding of how I could have been led to sacrifice everything-- my time, family, money, and health, to follow a messiah into a living hell. The answers I discovered are dreadfully relevant today. It is the same way a terrorist is created to sacrifice everything to achieve his mad leader's goals.
In order not to spread any more fear than already exists in our country, let me point out that while our group believed in a coming apocalypse, we did not subscribe to any notion of terrorism. We did believe we must be ready to fight a foreign invader and that our group would emerge as a holy remnant on the other side of a coming conflagration. While there are literally thousands of cults in the United States today, only a small percentage are of a paramilitary nature, and even fewer advocate terrorist activity.
OBSTACLES TO UNDERSTANDING
"It is odd that despite their current widespread use and looming future importance, most of us know very little about our automatic behavior patterns. ...Whatever the reason, it is vital that we clearly recognize one of their properties: They make us terribly vulnerable to anyone who does know how they work," warns Robert Cialdini, Ph.D., in his landmark work, Influence: The New Psychology of Modern Persuasion. There is a deep-seated and widespread denial of the reality that we all have behavior patterns that can be manipulated by others. An example of a milder form of this manipulation occurs in sales situations. How many of us have bought something that we really didn't want or at a price that wasn't really fair? Another more extreme form is what is termed thought reform or mind control. It is a difficult concept to understand how one individual can manipulate another to such an extent that he will believe and behave in a manner that is harmful to him or herself and/or society. This article will attempt to explain this phenomenon. I have lived it.
When I give a presentation regarding my experiences in the cult, I am usually met with some version of the same question: "What was wrong with your own psychological makeup that you were vulnerable to manipulation?" Pursuing the answer to this question diverts our attention from the core problem, the source of the manipulation. Suppose I venture into a bad neighborhood and am beaten and robbed by a neighborhood thug. I may have behaved foolishly for walking in a dangerous area, but to concentrate on my behavior leads us away from our core problem: the neighborhood thug. Dr. Louis J. West, a psychiatrist who studied thought reform for more than four decades states: "no single personality profile characterizes those who join cults. Many well-adjusted, high-achieving persons from intact families have been successfully recruited by cults. So have individuals with varying degrees of psychological impairment." We have missed what should be one of the most self-evident, looming lessons of history: that the millions of Germans who blindly followed Hitler could not have all been emotionally unbalanced or defective. The denial mechanism may work as follows: only defectives can be led and manipulated, I am not a defective, therefore I cannot be manipulated.
The denial that maintains that normal people cannot be taken in by a totalitarian system of belief was evident in the FBI's mistaken profile of a terrorist recruit. Each was thought to be very young, without a family, poor, uneducated, and psychologically unstable. The terrorists responsible for the September 11th disaster proved to be quite unlike the FBI's profile. It is this deep-seated denial that prevents us from understanding and countering the most dangerous trend of the twentieth century: the spread of cultic totalitarian governments and organizations that use thought reform or mind control.
THE CHARISMATIC LEADER
If we reject the notion that only psychologically defective individuals succumb to mind control, we must use a new model to explain what happens when ordinary people follow the leadership of a new messiah. Rudolf Odom, in his 1933 biography of Hitler, addressed the question; Does Hitler understand what he is doing? (Meaning, does he understand how he is manipulating the people)? He compared Hitler to a comedian or football player. Ask the comedian how he makes people laugh and he probably has no idea. Nonetheless, he is very good at it. Likewise, the typical cult leader has an innate ability to manipulate and control people, and many couple this innate ability with a shrewd theoretical understanding of psychology to further entrap their victims. Cult leaders may also use or appropriate long-standing thought reform methodology developed over decades or even hundreds of years that are embedded in the culture. Arkon Daraul in his Secret Societies: Yesterday and Today, describes in detail this centuries-old Arabic mind control system from which much of the modern terrorist thought reform system has evolved.
"These cults are led by a charismatic leader who actively anticipates an apocalyptic event that will purify the world. Often they invite altruistic killings to accomplish this..." Professor Robert J. Lifton in his November 3, 1999 presentation of his book, Aum Shinryko, Destroying the World to Save It, to the Commonwealth Club of California. Lifton further describes a cult leader in a 1989 introduction to his seminal 1961 work, Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism: "(the cult leader) tends increasingly to become the object of worship in place of more general spiritual principles that are advocated." Evidence of this phenomenon is the proliferation of large photos and statues of the leaders of totalitarian states. Osama bin Laden has certainly reached the status of worship. His photo is ubiquitous and in Pakistan it is reported that one in five boys born is named Osama.
The evil wrought by madmen serial killers Richard Speck, John Wayne Gacy, or Ted Bundy pales in comparison to what has been perpetrated by leaders skilled in manipulating ordinary men. The great crimes of history were carried out by men convinced they were doing the right thing, or serving the only God, their world-view warped by forces outside themselves.
"If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities"--S.R. Krishnan
How does a cult leader ensure that his followers will carry out his wishes? The tragedy of September 11 provides us with some terrible illustrations of how the process works. Unlike passengers on the other three hijacked planes, the passengers of flight 93 (hijacked over Cleveland and pointed towards Washington), resisted their attackers. Why? Simply because they were in possession of a different understanding of their fate than the passengers on the other three planes. Through conversations on cell phones, the passengers of flight 93 understood they were going to die at the hands of their hijackers. Consequently, they heroically rushed their attackers, minimizing any additional loss of life. They were behaving logically based on their understanding of their situation. The passengers on the other three flights did not resist. Until this point in history, most hijackings had ended in negotiations with minimal loss of life. Standard procedure was not to resist. These passengers were also behaving logically based on their understanding of the situation. In similar fashion, the cult member's world-view, not necessarily his capacity for judgment, is what is distorted and impaired. He behaves logically according to his world-view. This is why the cult member can seem quite rational and capable of functioning in many levels of society, but the consequences of him following his conscience or world-view can be barbarous and insane. When the cult's world-view is successfully inculcated in its victim it does not necessarily need to be closely regulated and the desired behavior will follow. An example is the Nazis' depiction of the Jews as sub-human. Once this view was accepted by a significant percentage of Germans, the anti-Semitic behavior of the populace logically followed.
CULT-URE
The totalitarian cult leader in a free society is faced with two tasks: recruitment of followers, and retention of followers. Once a sufficient mass of people have been indoctrinated and support the leader, and political and police power have been established within the movement, those who continue to resist the mind control apparatus of the state can dealt with through the physical power of the government. In Nazi Germany, the remaining portion of the populace that had not succumbed to the mind control system was either cowered into submission through fear, imprisoned, or murdered. Once the cultic thinking becomes pervasive in the culture, it follows that there are two types of members in the totalitarian system, those who are recruited into the system, and those who grow up in the system. The methods used to convert someone can be exceedingly complex, and space prohibits a detailing of all of them. However, by examining someone who has absorbed the cult's philosophy and world-view during their formative years, we will also encounter some of the principles used against the convert.
Travel is one method of becoming aware that human beings in every culture hold to beliefs that are quite irrational and bizarre. By doing some time-travel we can explore our own culture and see practices that were unquestionably wrong but universally upheld at the time. Before 1840, the notion that bacteria caused disease was unknown. Cleanliness with regard to medical procedures was considered unnecessary and the results in terms of public health were catastrophic. Why did we tenaciously hold onto these quite mistaken notions? There are two reasons: contradictory information was unavailable and this is the way everyone else thought. The tribesman who grows up eating roasted grasshoppers for a snack would be shocked at our spraying them with pesticides, and vice versa. So we all can grow up with some odd beliefs with absolutely no awareness of their irrationality, simply because they are accepted by our parents, community, government, or, in short, our culture.
One way a cult leader is able to maintain these irrational beliefs by ensuring that contradictory information is unavailable. In a closed society, this is easier to accomplish than in an open one. In both open and closed societies, mind control measures instituted from the top typically have an ostensible reason presented to their victims that attempts to hide their true purpose. When the directive that citizens can no longer listen to foreign broadcasts because they promote the interests of their enemies and enemy spies; the true reason is to ensure that no contradictory information is available to counteract the process of mind control. Afghanistan's ruling Taliban recently issued a "break your (TV) set now" ruling, claiming that television was impeding prayer.
In Nazi Germany from 1933 until the end of the war in 1945, the Hitler Youth (the bad guy equivalent of being a Boy Scout) were bombarded with the message of how glorious it is to die for the Fatherland. The SS's, Hitler's elite military units, official title was "The Order of the Death's Head". Germany was steeped in a cult-ure of glorification of death. Japan had the centuries old tradition of the Samurai. The parallels between the homicidal and suicidal nature of Nazism, Japan's Samurai, and Islamic terrorist cults are not difficult to draw. Pakistan has numerous religious schools called "madrasas", which Jeffrey Goldberg of the New York Times characterizes as nothing more than "jihad factories," or schools of indoctrination. The Islamic extremist culture is infused with the glorification of death.
One of the most difficult concepts for most people to believe is that mind control can be maintained in an open society. I physically left the group I was in for two years after being drafted into the Army, only to return to the group after my discharge. I still believed I was doing God's will, and it made sense to return to duty with God, no matter how distasteful. How is this done? The adherent is taught to "separate himself from the evil world," which typically translates as not socializing with non-believers. Mass media is often portrayed as being co-opted by Satan, and so television, movies, magazines, and newspapers are avoided. Though not the case with the Islamic terrorist "sleeper" agents, often the mind control victim is taught to evangelize friends and relatives so aggressively that he is either successful recruiting them or he alienates them. There is no real human interaction between the cultist and non-believers, except those that are for the purposes of cult itself.
"Humans use logic not to solve problems in the first instance, but to check the work and put it in presentable order after the insight has been attained."--Edmund Cohen
Something that has continually impressed me is the fact that highly intelligent people come to widely differing conclusions about all manners of things in life. There are intelligent Democrats and Republicans; conservatives and liberals; religionists of all creeds, atheists, etc. The divergence of opinion regarding crucial issues suggests that reason and logic may play a minor role in how people arrive at their philosophies about life. This suggests that people have an emotional reaction or experience about an issue, and then go about finding facts and intellectual arguments to support that position. The danger the cult leader represents is that he typically understands not only how to create an emotional experience for an individual, but also then how to go about wedding a group of facts and arguments to the emotional experience. For example, Hitler carefully planned the Nuremberg rallies with lavish pageantry and torches, and understood the additional psychologically manipulative power they would carry by always staging them at night. The pageantry was then combined with Hitler's charismatic delivery of the Nazi philosophy.
I will illustrate with a scenario that is similar to my experience in the Bible cult. Let's suppose a person attends a religious service. A friend has invited him. The friend sits next to him and hopes that he will have the same wonderful experience he's had at these services. The service is carefully calculated to heighten the emotions through music and ceremony. The leader may take the participants on an emotional roller coaster, first inducing euphoria and then guilt and shame. Healings and miracles might be part of the scheme (usually effected by either the power of suggestion, deception, or magic tricks). An invitation is made to surrender the will to a higher power and join this loving family. Prayer, shouting and emotion may ensue. There is joy; a new convert has been born into the group. So what we have now is a contrived emotional experience, almost entirely crafted and orchestrated by the leader of the group. The group now will strive to link the emotional experience of the convert to their doctrine and philosophy. In the cult I was in, we were taught the importance of follow through with this new "babe in the faith." We had a set of Bible study doctrines that we were instructed to teach the convert, many of which purported to explain in doctrinal terms his experience. In order to cement the convert's relationship with the group, the system proceeds to wed the doctrine of the group to the emotional experience of the convert. The cult creates the pseudo-spiritual experience, and then anchors its doctrine and cosmology to the experience they induced in their victim.
The emotional experience can be one that is contrived as we have seen in the paragraph above, or it also can be a real-life scenario, such as growing up in poverty in a refugee camp, losing a relative to an act of violence, or fighting an oppressor, etc. The cult leader seeks to capitalize on that experience and wed it in the mind of his victim to the cult's philosophy or doctrine.
In a normal environment, an individual may educate him or herself with additional information that supports his world-view and associate with others of like mind. We can call this an educational process. However, what the cult strives not for education, but indoctrination. In education, information is processed with the student's understanding and consent, while indoctrination sneaks in the back door of the mind without its victim's approval. Those involved in the education of students are typically not threatened by opposing points of view; in fact, the classical idea of the university is to encourage and test competing theories. Those who seek to indoctrinate do everything within their power to separate the cult member from information that is critical of their cause. Since it is not always possible to separate cult members from negative information about their group and philosophy, they are trained to effectively close their senses to any information that contradicts its philosophy. A chilling example of this is related by Jeffrey Goldberg in a New York Times article, "Jihad spins out from a corner of Pakistan". Goldberg was visiting a madrasa, a Muslim religious seminary where students range in age from 8 to 35. When Goldberg quoted passages from the Muslim Hadith forbidding the killing of women and children in a Jihad (an armed struggle), the students began chanting, Osama, Osama, Osama. The students then took turns defending Osama bin Laden. When presented with an idea that directly contradicted everything they had been indoctrinated in, the tension became too great and they launched into thought-stopping chanting. They then went on the offensive with what were likely stock arguments they had been drilled on beforehand.
Cult leaders use many different techniques to indoctrinate their followers, including thought-stopping, rhythmic breathing, fear, sleep deprivation, supplying a deficient diet, repetition, charismatic leadership, peer and social group pressure, magic, isolation, guilt inducement, proselytizing, and revealed knowledge, among others. Most of these techniques work to place the mind in an altered state, a state wherein the victim is unable to critically process and filter information. In effect, these techniques are opening the back door to the mind without the victim's awareness or consent. For example, the cult leader might present rhythmic breathing as the path to better health, while the true purpose is to place his victim in a suggestible state for indoctrination. Consider yourself how well you think when you are angry, tired, or fearful. The connection between the cult victim's emotional experience and the group's doctrine or philosophy is strengthened to a frightening degree through this multi-front psychological manipulation. This bond is far stronger than any tie that could be achieved through education. Now the bond takes on an its most sinister power. Remember that the cult member experienced his emotional event through his own senses. Now any attack on the philosophy is experienced by the cult member as the same as an attack on his personal experience. That the information perceived by his senses was wrong is difficult to believe and too emotionally painful to contemplate. The cult victim cannot and will not deny the experience he knows his senses have told him are real, so the linked doctrine stands like a rock, impenetrable to any rational argument. This is why the cult member clings to ideas and arguments that are clearly illogical; any information that attacks his doctrine and threatens to prove it false threatens to prove his powerful experience false as well.
THE WAR AGAINST SELF
In the previously mentioned Times article, Goldberg dispels some misconceptions regarding "jihad": Goldberg states: "'Jihad' is misunderstood in the West. It does not mean 'holy war.' It essentially means 'struggle' and...there are two types of jihad: greater and lesser. 'Greater Jihad' is the struggle within the soul of a person to be better, more righteous--the fight against the devil within. 'Lesser Jihad' is the fight against the devil without: the military struggle against those who subjugate Muslims."
The Biblical fundamentalist cult of which I was a member also had what they termed a "war against self," or a war against one's own ego. Women were required to wear ankle length dresses, have their hair covered, and were not to look men or each other directly in the eye. There was a considerable amount of preaching advocating the suppression of sexual thoughts for unmarried believers, not an easy task for a group of people who were mostly in their early twenties. In retrospect, I believe nearly every person there failed at this task, and probably experienced the same requisite guilt, fear, sense of failure, and self-loathing that I did. The game is, convince someone their natural impulses are sinful and set them at war against their own personality and nature. The cult victim then continually works at suppressing his own 'unholy' personality, and his self-doubt drives him to surrender his will and judgment to his leaders.
The fundamentalist extremist Muslims are at work at the same game. Women are required to dress in the burqas, clothing that obscures their face and bodily form. Men are warned of the dangers of looking upon a woman. Evidence that the hijackers were in this sexual double bind is found in a story recounted by the Florida motel owner who had rented a room to some of the hijackers. The hijackers had complained about a painting in their room that showed an uncovered shoulder of a woman. They requested that the painting be either removed or covered. After they moved in, the motel owner marveled at how often they were seen watching women in bikinis at the motel pool. Each look probably filled them with guilt and a sense of failure, and perhaps renewed purpose and resolve after each lapse in morality. Ironically, in what may be a deadly harnessing of the sex drive, the Islamic martyrs are promised in heaven what they are denied on earth: marriage in paradise with 72 beautiful virgins. In a fantasy that is the height of hypocrisy, they are rewarded in paradise with an orgy that they would roundly condemn on earth.
The foregoing does not represent the entire gamut of the mind control or thought reform process, but hopefully can serve as a framework to illustrate how these powerful forces can be used to enslave the mind.
IS THERE A WAY OUT?
There is a loose-knit association of psychologists, psychiatrists, social workers, sociologists, clergy, parents, ex-cult members, and most importantly, exit-counselors, which has studied and combated cultism and mind control in this country over the last three decades. Exit-counselors assist those who are trapped in mind control cults, and understand how to break through the barriers of thought reform. These individuals have stared in the face of totalitarianism and developed tactics to free minds from its grip. Their expertise could be used to reach suspected terrorists our government has in custody and possibly transform them into useful sources of information. In addition, the government and intelligence community could benefit from the other professionals who have studied this problem in helping to develop strategies for dealing with the cultic organizations in the Middle East. The political situation we are currently in can be seen accurately through the lens of the thought reform and mind control models. Our leaders must develop a true picture of the forces arrayed against us in order to combat them more effectively. Do I think this understanding will allow us to avoid war or military action? Probably not. But without a precise understanding of the psychological dynamics of the cult leaders and their followers, our government's actions may lead to disaster. The government misread the situation with the Waco cultists. We cannot afford to misread this new threat. We must not turn Afghanistan or another Middle Eastern country into a Waco cult-mishandling disaster. If we do, the consequences will be dire.
It is popular for those wishing to sound a warning to quote George Satayana when he said, Those that do not remember history, are condemned to repeat it. I don't believe we have a problem with remembering the events of World War II, but I do think there is a problem with comprehending how the minds of millions of Japanese and Germans could be turned to mass murder, destruction, and suicide. My warning, then, is to misquote Satayana by saying: "Those who do not understand history, are condemned to repeat it."
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religious JW threatens with anthrax
by Dogpatch inthis was a news article dated october 17th, but i didn't see it posted so here goes:.
a "very religious" jehovah's witness in norwalk connecticut, facing bankruptcy and realizing that armageddon wasn't coming soon enough, decided to speed it up by calling 911 and threatening to "dust" government buildings with anthrax.
norwalk man detained for threat .
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Dogpatch
An appropriate article to go with the above. Our country is full of religious fundamentalists who want to kill or see others killed, so their religious fantasies can be realized.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/comment/2001-11-05-ncguest1.htm
Apocalyptic cult methods explain bin Laden
By Patricia Pearson
At the Pentagon memorial service last month, President Bush called the al-Qa'eda network "a cult of evil," and for the first time, I thought: "Yes, that sounds right." It is a kind of cult, and Osama bin Laden — far from being the Muslim world's Che Guevara, is its evil and manipulative guru.
There has been a great deal of semantic confusion about who, precisely, our enemy is. Bin Laden has succeeded in linking his lunatic cause with a broader sense of anger and frustration that persists in the Muslim world. We cannot allow him to maintain that link.
The enemy of this particular war is not Islam, and it isn't the Muslim world, for very few Muslims, regardless of their policy grievances, would die for the sake of killing our children.
Two years ago, the eminent American psychiatrist Robert Jay Lifton wrote a book about cults called Destroying the World to Save It, documenting what he called a "loosely connected, still-developing global subculture of apocalyptic violence."
Lifton, who has also written about Nazi doctors and the psychology of totalitarianism, focused his analysis on the Aum Shinrikyo cult in Japan, which released sarin gas into the Tokyo subway in 1995, killing a dozen people.
Why? Why indeed. Aum Shinrikyo built a rationale for mass murder on a "global stew" of New Age religion, ancient rituals and science fiction. Lifton was fascinated by how ordinary people could be persuaded to engage in extraordinary horrors.
In Aum Shinrikyo's ranks one found doctors, research scientists and other members of the Japanese professional classes — not unlike the demographics of the Rajneeshee cult in Oregon, whose members laced salad bars with salmonella bacteria in 1984, or the members of Jonestown who committed mass suicide in 1978.
People do not need to be impoverished or brutalized to transform themselves into apocalyptic warriors. In Aum Shinrikyo, members appear to have come together out of vague spiritual or social malaise and then fallen under the charismatic spell of Aum's guru, Shoko Asahara. Over time, and a great deal of brainwashing, they developed a "collective megalomania" that culminated in the subway attack.
Reading profiles of the Sept. 11 hijackers, one glimpses a similarly disturbing ordinariness. The hijackers were not traumatized victims of American foreign policy; nor did they spring from deeply orthodox Muslim families. Some drank; some had Western girlfriends; Mohamed Atta's sisters are a doctor and a zoology professor.
Understanding al-Qa'eda purely in the context of Islamic fundamentalism is unsatisfactory. It leaves something out, some process of psychological transformation for the individual members.
Consider, by contrast, the suicide bomber who assassinated Indian President Rajiv Gandhi in 1991 — a Tamil woman who reportedly had been raped by Indian soldiers during the Sri Lankan occupation. Her quest for justice took a terrible route, but one can at least discern a connection between personal trauma and revenge.
Curious about the cult analogy, I called Steve Hassan, formerly a high-ranking member of the Unification Church, also known as the "Moonies," and now a leading expert on mind control. We talked about the fact that many of these hijackers were reportedly leading a normal life when, after coming into contact with certain Islamic groups — on a university campus in Hamburg, Germany, for instance — they suddenly turned inward, becoming secretive and aloof. That rang very loud bells for Hassan, who fell in with the Moonies on a New England college campus in 1974 after befriending three "attractive young women" who encouraged him to come to meetings.
"There's a big difference between a personality change as a result of religious epiphany and a personality change as a result of a systematic social influence," he says. "I did not realize that I was being manipulated. (But) by the end of 3 days, I was blown away. My parents said I looked like I was on drugs.
"I had been taught that the world was facing Armageddon and that God had chosen me, and that Satan would work through the people I loved to try to talk me out of it. I was indoctrinated into distrusting my own thought processes and into believing that killing people was for their own good."
Hassan observes that many of the techniques that he encountered with the Moonies are evident in bin Laden's camps: "social isolation, controlling their sleep, showing them non-stop videos of Muslims dying, being buddied up, so that they're never alone. ... Destructive mind control strips away their ability to think for themselves."
The cult framework goes a little way to explaining the dissonance between who these hijackers were and what they eventually did on behalf of al-Qa'eda.
My sense of this was confirmed by John R. Hall, the co-author of Apocalypse Observed: Religious Movements and Violence in North America, Europe and Japan.
"There are two kinds of apocalyptic sects," he told me. "One kind engages in a withdrawal from society at large to another world, which they establish as a utopian heaven on earth." Most American cults fall into this category, Hall says, although they resort to violence if they feel threatened.
"The other kind of apocalyptic group," he says, "is the warring sect. It seeks to bring on the final battle of Armageddon by launching a holy war against the existing social order. Osama bin Laden's al-Qa'eda is definitely of the latter type; indeed, it is a classic case."
Many pundits are saying that the eradication of bin Laden will be fruitless unless certain "underlying causes" in the friction between East and West are addressed. But that presumes a rational stance in modern terrorism, and there is none.
America needs to get across to the Muslim world this absolutely essential fact: Bin Laden is not championing their cause or proposing to lead them to a better future. He wants to destroy the world, and that can be no sane man's cause.
Patricia Pearson, a freelance writer and author living in Toronto, is a member of USA TODAY's board of contributors.
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religious JW threatens with anthrax
by Dogpatch inthis was a news article dated october 17th, but i didn't see it posted so here goes:.
a "very religious" jehovah's witness in norwalk connecticut, facing bankruptcy and realizing that armageddon wasn't coming soon enough, decided to speed it up by calling 911 and threatening to "dust" government buildings with anthrax.
norwalk man detained for threat .
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Dogpatch
This was a news article dated October 17th, but I didn't see it posted so here goes:
A "very religious" Jehovah's Witness in Norwalk Connecticut, facing bankruptcy and realizing that Armageddon wasn't coming soon enough, decided to speed it up by calling 911 and threatening to "dust" government buildings with anthrax.
Norwalk man detained for threat
A Norwalk resident is still in custody tonight after allegedly threatening, in a 911 call, to "dust" court buildings in Fairfield County yesterday.The term "dust" apparently refers to anthrax or some other biological agent.
Officials say 70-year-old Frederick Forcellina said he would also target railroads and schools. Forcellina was quickly arrested and now faces serious charges. News 12 Connecticut's Kelcey Kintner is live at the Bridgeport Federal Court House with more.
Tom Forcellina will have a bond hearing here tomorrow to determine whether he will be released on bail. He faces a maximum of life in prison and a $250,000 fine.
This whole case stems from a 911 call he allegedly made yesterday from Fairfield.
”I've been well educated in your country. My people have been bombed. Now we're doping the silent warfare. This is not a hoax. I'm telling you three of your symbols of justice, the court buildings in Stamford on Hoyt Street, the court building in Norwalk and the one on Lafayette in Bridgeport have been dusted. It's a silent warfare. And, this is no joke. We're tired. We’re going to turn around and do the railroad stations and maybe even some schools as horrid as it may sound,” allegedly said by Forcellina.
This 911 call came in yesterday at 8:48 am.
Police traced the call and arrived at this Fairfield pay phone just as the alleged caller Frederick Forcellina, was hanging up the phone. Forcellina is now in custody and friends are in disbelief.
“He's sweet, he's funny, he's very religious so it's surprising something like this should happen, said Rosa Torcasio of Sarafina’s Deli.
The local real estate broker and Jehovah's Witness lived in Norwalk and was a regular at Sarafina's Deli. Friends here say this must have been an act of desperation.
Forcellina was apparently having money problems and scheduled to appear in U.S. District Court for a bankruptcy case. This is one of the court's he allegedly threatened to quote "dust."
“I think he was having some financial difficulties and this was his way of probably trying to stall the situation. I don't think he's a terrorist. He's a really nice guy, not a bad bone in his body. A really nice guy, said John Torcasio, of Sarafina’s Deli.
Fairfield Police Chief Joseph Sambrook says there's no way to justify this crime, especially in the aftermath of the September 11th attacks.
“My message would be to anybody, don't even think about it, because here is a classic example of somebody thinking they're going to get away with something and it backfired and now this guy is in tremendous trouble,” said Sambrook.
None of the court buildings were evacuated yesterday because an arrest was made so quickly. In the 911 call, he refers to "my people" but it's unclear if he is of Arab decent.
http://www.news12.com/CDA/Articles/Transcript/0,2051,10-10-23162-30,00.html
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Slide Show on U.N. update
by Dogpatch inslide show on the united nations/watchtower scandal at:.
http://www.thetruthhurts.freeservers.com/wtun.htm.
has just been updated with the latest news and links.. randy.
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Dogpatch
Slide show on the United Nations/Watchtower scandal at:
http://www.thetruthhurts.freeservers.com/wtun.htm
has just been updated with the latest news and links.
RandyExJWs.net!
http://www.exjws.netalso the 1994 NGO lists are up at:
http://www.thetruthhurts.freeservers.com/unitednations.htmor more directly:
http://www.thetruthhurts.freeservers.com/1994dpi.htm