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Congresswoman Shot in Tucson

by leavingwt in

several shot at tuscon grocery .

several people were shot saturday at a grocery store in tucson, arizona, a spokesman for the pima county sheriff's department said.. the shooting occurred at a safeway shortly after 10 a.m. mst, according to sheriff's spokesman deputy jason ogan.. a couple of victims with gunshot wounds have arrived at northwest medical center, according to spokesman richard parker.. "they've been coming in the last 10 minutes.

i'm not sure of the severity of their injuries," he said.. ogan said the motive for the shooting is unclear.. "we're just trying to sort this out right now," he said.. .

BurnTheShips

The focused question into play here is particular involving around GUN violence, not just violence as a generalization.

Violence is violence.

Regarding UK and US:

Trends in recorded violent crime in England and Wales, the United States, Canada, and Australia, rate per 100,000 persons, 1962-2004

http://www.aic.gov.au/en/publications/current%20series/cfi/101-120/~/media/publications/cfi/cfi115.ashx?w=655&h=355&as=1

We've had falling violent crime rates, despite loosening of restrictions in the great majority of states over the last 20 years. The UK skyrocketed in the late 90s, precisely when they passed the 1997 Firearms Act, which almost completely banned the private possession of firearms.

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Congresswoman Shot in Tucson

by leavingwt in

several shot at tuscon grocery .

several people were shot saturday at a grocery store in tucson, arizona, a spokesman for the pima county sheriff's department said.. the shooting occurred at a safeway shortly after 10 a.m. mst, according to sheriff's spokesman deputy jason ogan.. a couple of victims with gunshot wounds have arrived at northwest medical center, according to spokesman richard parker.. "they've been coming in the last 10 minutes.

i'm not sure of the severity of their injuries," he said.. ogan said the motive for the shooting is unclear.. "we're just trying to sort this out right now," he said.. .

BurnTheShips

You don't need a gun to engage in violence, LLBH. The recent violence against the royals in London is a good example. I am not aware of firearms in the recent Greek riots, either, yet people died.

The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.

The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, Australia 92 and South Africa 1,609. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html

Our violent crime rates continue to fall, despite the economic situation.

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Congresswoman Shot in Tucson

by leavingwt in

several shot at tuscon grocery .

several people were shot saturday at a grocery store in tucson, arizona, a spokesman for the pima county sheriff's department said.. the shooting occurred at a safeway shortly after 10 a.m. mst, according to sheriff's spokesman deputy jason ogan.. a couple of victims with gunshot wounds have arrived at northwest medical center, according to spokesman richard parker.. "they've been coming in the last 10 minutes.

i'm not sure of the severity of their injuries," he said.. ogan said the motive for the shooting is unclear.. "we're just trying to sort this out right now," he said.. .

BurnTheShips

Not literal.

Neither is a map of electoral targets.

Burn, that does not negate Krugman's premise.

Krugman's "premise" is completely one-sided. It is an attempt at extracting partisan advantage only hours after a tragedy (and before any of the facts are in). In light of Krugman's own past, it is hipocrisy. I often read him, and he is no stranger to being over the top with his hyperbole, as the effigy quote demonstrates. That this piece got past the NYT editorial board stains them as well.
America's "Newspaper of Record" has painted half the country as guilty to a heinous crime by association (even though there is none) on its front page.
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Statistics of Denmark

by Dondee in

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friends

hi.

is there anyone who can be helpfull with the figures of denmark in the annual report 2010. plz all the figures .

dondee.

BurnTheShips

I wish we had only 5% unemployment here in the USA, like in Denmark.

More like almost 8% and climbing, unfortunately.

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Congresswoman Shot in Tucson

by leavingwt in

several shot at tuscon grocery .

several people were shot saturday at a grocery store in tucson, arizona, a spokesman for the pima county sheriff's department said.. the shooting occurred at a safeway shortly after 10 a.m. mst, according to sheriff's spokesman deputy jason ogan.. a couple of victims with gunshot wounds have arrived at northwest medical center, according to spokesman richard parker.. "they've been coming in the last 10 minutes.

i'm not sure of the severity of their injuries," he said.. ogan said the motive for the shooting is unclear.. "we're just trying to sort this out right now," he said.. .

BurnTheShips

The false equivalency should be addressed if we are to make any progress. This is from Paul Krugman:

Paul Krugman writes on the Arizona shooting in his New York Times column today:

it’s the saturation of our political discourse — and especially our airwaves — with eliminationist rhetoric that lies behind the rising tide of violence.
Where’s that toxic rhetoric coming from? Let’s not make a false pretense of balance: it’s coming, overwhelmingly, from the right. It’s hard to imagine a Democratic member of Congress urging constituents to be “armed and dangerous” without being ostracized; but Representative Michele Bachmann, who did just that, is a rising star in the G.O.P.

Yes, this is the same Paul Krugman who "joked" in his New York Times column:

"A message to progressives: By all means, hang Senator Joe Lieberman in effigy."

What makes that "eliminationist rhetoric" even better is the fact that effigies of political figures were burned at Krugman's election night party in 2008, as the New Yorker reported. Talk about a "climate of hate."

"If Arizona promotes some real soul-searching, it could prove a turning point," Krugman concludes his column today. "If it doesn’t, Saturday’s atrocity will be just the beginning."

Krugman provides no evidence that "toxic" rhetoric played a role in Saturday's shooting, but if it's soul-searching Krugman demands, perhaps he should start with his own soul.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/paul-hang-joe-lieberman-effigy-krugman-blames-tucson-shooting-rise-eliminationist-rhetoric_526

People, glass houses, stones, some assembly required.

By the way, Krugman closed down comments on that article.

Convenient.

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Congresswoman Shot in Tucson

by leavingwt in

several shot at tuscon grocery .

several people were shot saturday at a grocery store in tucson, arizona, a spokesman for the pima county sheriff's department said.. the shooting occurred at a safeway shortly after 10 a.m. mst, according to sheriff's spokesman deputy jason ogan.. a couple of victims with gunshot wounds have arrived at northwest medical center, according to spokesman richard parker.. "they've been coming in the last 10 minutes.

i'm not sure of the severity of their injuries," he said.. ogan said the motive for the shooting is unclear.. "we're just trying to sort this out right now," he said.. .

BurnTheShips

I'm a Democrat, and I strongly feel this incident should not be used to table the gun control issue. Nor do I feel gun control would help. The problem is with Americans themselves. As a people, we seem to feel that arms are a legitimate way to solve problems, and we have neurotic fears about the government. We have a cowboy mentality that just is not found in other cultures.

The problem isn't guns. The problem is the fact that Americans have 'issues.' Since it is a mental/emotional problem, we will never be able to formulate a legislative solution.

Apparently, you are ignorant of the violence taking place in Europe lately. America is not unique.

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Congresswoman Shot in Tucson

by leavingwt in

several shot at tuscon grocery .

several people were shot saturday at a grocery store in tucson, arizona, a spokesman for the pima county sheriff's department said.. the shooting occurred at a safeway shortly after 10 a.m. mst, according to sheriff's spokesman deputy jason ogan.. a couple of victims with gunshot wounds have arrived at northwest medical center, according to spokesman richard parker.. "they've been coming in the last 10 minutes.

i'm not sure of the severity of their injuries," he said.. ogan said the motive for the shooting is unclear.. "we're just trying to sort this out right now," he said.. .

BurnTheShips

If you would like to logically and unemotionally comment on the analysis, feel free.

I already have. To connect Palin to the shooting is stupid. If you are going to do that, might as well connect a whole bunch of other people at the other end of the political spectrum, too.

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Congresswoman Shot in Tucson

by leavingwt in

several shot at tuscon grocery .

several people were shot saturday at a grocery store in tucson, arizona, a spokesman for the pima county sheriff's department said.. the shooting occurred at a safeway shortly after 10 a.m. mst, according to sheriff's spokesman deputy jason ogan.. a couple of victims with gunshot wounds have arrived at northwest medical center, according to spokesman richard parker.. "they've been coming in the last 10 minutes.

i'm not sure of the severity of their injuries," he said.. ogan said the motive for the shooting is unclear.. "we're just trying to sort this out right now," he said.. .

BurnTheShips

:) You know, when your only response is to consistently resort to name calling and perjoratives, it simply documents the weakness of your argument.

Of course it doesn't. The fact that you choose to focus on a single word, rather than the argument, proves it. Your only rebuttal is my choice of words. You posted Palin's map on page 1 to create a guilt by association. That is bullshit, as has been demonstrated.

However, Palin did make sure that she took down the map with Congresswoman Giffords in her crosshairs from her site BEFORE tweeting her condolences.

Out of respect, I would guess.

Why did DailyKos and the DLC do the same thing with theirs?

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Congresswoman Shot in Tucson

by leavingwt in

several shot at tuscon grocery .

several people were shot saturday at a grocery store in tucson, arizona, a spokesman for the pima county sheriff's department said.. the shooting occurred at a safeway shortly after 10 a.m. mst, according to sheriff's spokesman deputy jason ogan.. a couple of victims with gunshot wounds have arrived at northwest medical center, according to spokesman richard parker.. "they've been coming in the last 10 minutes.

i'm not sure of the severity of their injuries," he said.. ogan said the motive for the shooting is unclear.. "we're just trying to sort this out right now," he said.. .

BurnTheShips

I'll repost. Says all that needs to be said:

Sarah Palin's fault, SammieLee? Seriously?

Talk about the left literally jumping the gun for political gain!

Something happens, and it is suddenly the fault of Palin or the Tea Party.

She wasn't announced "shot" for five minutes before the Left started to act like Palestinians and use her corpse as a political prop.

If the shooters name had been Abdul or Mohammed, the Left would be tripping over itself admonishing the country not to jump to conclusions.

But his name is Jared, so he must obviously be a Tea Partier!

But wait.

Here is what a classmate of the shooter had to say:

"As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy."

http://www.businessinsider.com/woman-who-says-she-went-to-school-with-alleged-shooter-says-he-met-giffords-in-2007-2011-1?sailthru_m=h5b

He was a liberal. From the Left.

So who do we blame?

Well, since according to Justitia's and SammieLee's drooling idiocy putting targets on a map of Congressional seats is responsible for murder, I will use their logic and blame the Democrats. I blame Markos Moulitsas, and Barack Obama.

Check out the INFLAMMATORY LANGUAGE!!!! ZOMG!!!!:

Dead!

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Congresswoman Shot in Tucson

by leavingwt in

several shot at tuscon grocery .

several people were shot saturday at a grocery store in tucson, arizona, a spokesman for the pima county sheriff's department said.. the shooting occurred at a safeway shortly after 10 a.m. mst, according to sheriff's spokesman deputy jason ogan.. a couple of victims with gunshot wounds have arrived at northwest medical center, according to spokesman richard parker.. "they've been coming in the last 10 minutes.

i'm not sure of the severity of their injuries," he said.. ogan said the motive for the shooting is unclear.. "we're just trying to sort this out right now," he said.. .

BurnTheShips

BTS, are you trying to compare my reasoned, analytical response (pasted below) on page four (not one) to your childish name-calling?

Of course not, there is no comparison.

To call these lies "drooling idiocy" isn't even in the same league. It is, in fact, an understatement.

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