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  Cuban Cigars

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so mrs. otwo and i see something on television about cuban cigars.

  she asks me if they are allowed into the united states.

  i told her that i believe there is a softening of the rules, but they are still difficult to get.

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  OnTheWayOut

  Thank you all for commenting on Cuban cigars.

  Any thoughts on the convo. with the JW wife?
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  BEWARE - More force adding on FB

  by JRK in

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  2. friends

  they are doing it again.. a new group trying to boost membership is adding people without permission.. "ex-jehovah's witnesses aka behind the veil of jw.org" added me this afternoon.

  they were bragging about how quickly they grew to over 2000 members.

  i quickly exited the group.

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  I hadn't noticed I had been a member for awhile. But I left the group.
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  Question for Cart-Watchers

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  q. what is more important, the bible teach book or the bible itself?.

  a. the bible, of course.. q. then why do you only display these books, and not the bible?.

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  Bibles are expensive. If you walk by a cart, ask for a Bible.
  
  
  
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  THOUGHTS ON UPGRADING TO (Free) WINDOWS 10

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been using windows 7 for several years and have had no complaints.. i've tried many browsers and settled on google chrome.

  it has absolutely everything i want or need.. i kept hearing about the free upgrade to windows 10, so i went to youtube and watched endless "reviews" pro and con.. what pushed me over the (microsoft edge) was the fact i could test drive the new operating system.

  for 30 days and go back to windows 7 if i didn't like it!

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  What's a word that describes the way Witnesses behave as a group?

  by paul from cleveland in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i can't recall the word that describes a group that keeps to itself like the witnesses do.

  i thought it was "insular" but i don't think that's the one i'm looking for after reading the definition.

  i remember an elder using the word "clannish" and that has the proper definition but it reminds me of a group of elves.

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  Has anyone said
  
  Cultish ?
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  Cuban Cigars

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so mrs. otwo and i see something on television about cuban cigars.

  she asks me if they are allowed into the united states.

  i told her that i believe there is a softening of the rules, but they are still difficult to get.

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  So Mrs. OTWO and I see something on television about Cuban cigars. She asks me if they are allowed into the United States. I told her that I believe there is a softening of the rules, but they are still difficult to get. (As it turns out, but unknown to me at the time of this conversation, a U.S. citizen leaving Cuba can now have $100 worth of tobacco products with them.)
  
  So Mrs. OTWO mentions how we might should go when tourism first opens up because we could see Cuba before it's spoiled. Without really thinking about how "worldly" and "normal" that sounds for a JW, I don't really say anything. She says, "...so would I be able to bring Cuban cigars back or not?"

  Here's my answer: "Well as one of Jehovah's Witnesses, somewhere along the way to getting them for someone, you will remember that you are not allowed to decide for yourself if it's okay. You will remember that your religion says they are evil and from the devil and you will freak out if even someone gives you a box of cigars for free right before you board your plane for home, and you will not even pass them on to another passenger but throw them away."

  Her answer was literally "Oh.......yeah."
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  Had a wonderful visit with Mr and Mrs Flipper Sat.

  by 3rdgen in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i haven't posted much lately because i got a new job at the end of nov. and it's taken much of my time and mental energy.

  i still read though and care for you all very much so i thought i should let you know about the meet-up i had yesterday with mr and mrs flipper.. hubby got a call the day before from flipper saying he and his wife were going to visit his mother (who is in a rest home in my town) and would we like to meet up for coffee?

  hubby couldn't make it but i was delighted to accept.. we picked a burger place not far from the rest home and where i knew jdubs don't usually hang out on saturdays.

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  I love my dear friends, the Flippers. So glad they made that visit, and you all had such a great time. I have been to their home, slept on their couch twice. And of course, along with you, have spent time with them at Tahoe. I hope all is well with you at your job and all, and it's awesome that you want to check in on Flipper's mother.
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  WT should admit that 1914

  by bobld in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  was a man made date when jesus came and that a generation is not 102 plus years.. why not say something like this.when the disciples asked jesus for a sign and the end of the age.jesus gave them a composite sign and said all these things will take place.when-before the people now living(at the end of the age which no one knows)have all died..

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  I think this thread could just be titled: WT SHOULD ADMIT THAT>>>>>
  
  .....and there is so much they should admit.
  Today's Watchtower is officially founded on a group of people being established "in the last days." It's not easy to dump 1914. They are slowly doing it anyway.
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  What Is The Watchtower's Biggest Problem?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  the organization has many problems.

  certain doctrines are problematic.

  the men who run the organizaion have issues.

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  I left because it was all lies. It doesn't get simpler than that to me.

  Since leaving, I really learned better how they damage/destroy lives. So that has taken over as my biggest problem with them.

  Whether it is shunning and dividing families or failing to protect children or letting people die for the doctrine, to me those aren't worth arguing over which is biggest. They are nothing but lies and they damage or destroy lives.
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  Australia - Elder Jailed Over Sex Abuse

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  another one.. https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/30810834/church-elder-is-jailed-over-sex-abuse/.

  a jehovah’s witness elder who sexually assaulted two vulnerable teenagers he met through the church was sentenced to three years jail yesterday over the “destructive” abuse.. david frank pople, 68, met the boys through the safety bay congregation of the church and assaulted them between 1989 and 1996.. one of the teens reported the sexual assaults to elders in 1997 but police were not made aware of the abuse until he filed a police report in 2014.pople was forcibly ejected from the church for being “insufficiently repentant” in 1997 and readmitted the following year at his request.. district court judge troy sweeney accepted pople was genuinely remorseful but said he had interfered with his victims’ natural maturing process in a “very destructive way”.“a message must be sent that child abuse is abhorrent and will not be tolerated by any civilised society,” she said.“they were vulnerable because they were young and because you were a church elder and their boss.”.

  when pople admitted assaulting one of the boys during a conversation with an elder in the 1990s, he was told a judicial committee would be formed to deal with the issue.the elders spoke to pople in an apparent attempt to determine his level of remorse and later sent a letter to certain members of the congregation explaining in great detail why he had been ejected.. pople was in his 40s when he assaulted the boys at work, on his yacht and in his shoalwater home.he was close friends with the parents of his first victim and had helped the second victim with his bible studies.. defence lawyer nick scerri told the court pople was candid with the leadership of the church and made “very frank admissions” about some aspects of the offending in 1997.he said his client has been living three lives and was “deeply unhappy” when he assaulted the boys.“he had the life of the family man, the father, the husband,” mr scerri said.

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  It sounds like Pople was ready to face the law in 1997 when he was reported to the elders, but this self-protective cult just dealt with it as an internal matter.

  If I am reading it right, the real scum dirt bags are the elders that handled the matter.