some internal sources in jw.org has brought me attention to the following data:.
- in which european country, not member of the eu, and well known for their banking industry, jw.org and some affiliated structures do maintain some business incorporated structures and companies?.
- which is the purpose of these business and company structures?.
This thread certainly is VERY DARK AND CONFUSING INFO.
If I was "famous" on Swahili forums, I would at least link to the Swahili forum and if anyone is interested in your very dark and confusing (lack of) info, they could google translate.
But I will say this:
- Off the coast of which country of the world, well known for maple syrup exportation, can you find an iceberg where no JW's have ever been?
- Why the hell should we know the answer or care?
i'm currently going through a bout of depression and my eating disorder has gotten worse.
ever since my parents actually told me that they are going to kick me out when i turn 18 i've felt kind of hopeless about my life.
my parents won't take me to the doctor because the psychiatrists won't have my "best interests" aka jw crap in mind, because really that's the root of all my problems.. i'm wondering if any of you guys have any advice with dealing with depression?
BlackWolf, I try real hard to give advice within the boundaries of what someone will listen to and/or actually do. I won't tell someone to go to the emergency room for "depression" and problems with an eating disorder if they won't go. I will scream it if they are thinking of hurting themselves or others.
I won't say you should try to get more medication if that's not what you want. People do need to know that meds change you in good and bad ways. You seem to know that and don't like more meds. Okay.
So, you can go to the meetings and put in some bogus token "service" or you can leave at 18. Leaving at 18 is not as terrible as it sounds. It would be an excellent time to reach out to some college and have them help you find the counseling you need while you also figure out future short-term and long-term goals about where to live, work, and further your education.
It would help if there are any non-JW relatives willing to let you crash at their home until you find a way, but not impossible for you if that's not the case.
Before this time, you need to get a grip on that depression and stay busy. You need to work, exercise. Just think how ready you can be. No matter what, you can be ready for the opposite sex if you exercise.
The road is rough, but not impossible. You can do it. Sure, you will have money problems for years, but so many of us have them anyway. You will find your way.
i've read here that inactives are the same as disfellowshipped, treatment wise.
is that correct or did i misread it??
thanks......
Okay, I read the great comments so far. I am going to go with Blondie, the first person to answer on page 1.
I don't think it is official but I am sure they are viewed as bad association and that jws should limit their contact with them except for spiritual activities, meetings, field service, conventions/assemblies; but nothing social. But I don't think jws are df'd themselves for associating with inactives unless something more serious is going on.
While I share that answer, I will go a wee bit stronger.
NO, Inactive ones are not shunned. It is not official policy. It is just being strongly hinted at, and will largely be ignored by family members as long as it is only hinted at. I don't think a study article will come out that does any more than the hinting.
If they say "Shun inactive ones," who determines who that is? Will people be in front of a judicial committee for not shunning them? If I go to one meeting every 6 months and turn in 1 hour of recruiting time every 6 months, am I just "irregular" and not "inactive," allowing my mother to ignore the shunning requirement?
The best they will do is to say that inactive ones who are a disruptive influence (or some similar term for "they SHOULD be DF'ed, but we haven't been able to do so) should be avoided.
once upon a time i started a thread who is your favorite thinker and got many responses.
however revisiting that thread i noted we were to modest to name ourselves or fellow posters.
i therefore think we are either complete idiots, or modesty aside we should now name names, and restrict our answers to posters on the board.. so who on this board is your favorite thinker and why?.
I love so many thinkers here. But sticking to one, I will go with one that best fits the subject matter. When it comes to understanding all things JW, and getting that the only thing that matters in doctrine is what is written in the Watchtower articles, then the lady who finds those things is Blondie.
Barbara Anderson also understands all things JW very well and has excellent thinking on the subject.
I won't go on and on but there are tons of good debaters here.
i was raised as a jw and 1975 expectations were pretty intense.
as i recall, most people did not leave after the failed expectations but many s l o w e d down.
now, i think most of the 1975 witnesses are gone or barely in.. is the older generation still around in the kingdom halls or are they much gone?.
My mother is still an active JW. But she seems to be at a point where, even though she is very familiar with the doctrine, she is discouraged to even attempt to recruit people.
a quick summary of my situation: i have known ttatt since at least 2010. my wife and teenage son are still in.
i only mention that because it is relevant in this situation.
you can see some of my previous posts for additional details.
Thanks for the update. Hope all goes well with the boy (and with you).
a quick summary of my situation: i have known ttatt since at least 2010. my wife and teenage son are still in.
i only mention that because it is relevant in this situation.
you can see some of my previous posts for additional details.
Well, if some of the advice is beyond your desires to follow, at least consider- if you can't talk to him in private, talk to him openly in front of her. Say what needs to be said.
What's she going to do? - stop having sex with you?
warning of a long boring post ahead.
i feel like i need to vent my story out, as i feel quite helpless at the moment.. i'm 31 year old, married, father of toddler with another one on the way, due later this month.
i've been serving as elder for about 4 years now in a south florida congregation.
Thanks for the update, Sanchy. If you can get to it this year, enjoy your first Christmas.
i'm wondering why believers remain members of this forum which is clearly hostile to believers.
as one member said, nonbelievers pounce on any semblance of belief like piranhas on prey.
as former jws we should have had our fill of judgmental know-it-alls, but here we are.
Oh, I could add- Believer, aren't you just the reincarnation of some old poster who was over the top as a believer and got banned from this forum? You know, as if they were waving "it" around too much.
i'm wondering why believers remain members of this forum which is clearly hostile to believers.
as one member said, nonbelievers pounce on any semblance of belief like piranhas on prey.
as former jws we should have had our fill of judgmental know-it-alls, but here we are.
I'm wondering why believers remain members of this forum which is clearly hostile to believers.
Once again, I find one of these threads when there's just so many pages. So I will just go right to answering the first post.
If you keep your penis in your pants, nobody is "hostile" to you. If you take it out in public and wave it around, the reaction you receive will seem "hostile" to you. That's what many believers do with their beliefs- take it out in public and wave it around, then act surprised when people react negatively to their beliefs.
Let me answer for Perry, clearly a believer. He posts stuff here about his undying devotion to Christianity and he scoffs at evolution and science. His main reason is not to convert us, but for us to convert him. He knows he went so far in getting out of the Jehovah's Witnesses and their false beliefs, but that he stops short of fully waking up to the facts about the Bible and Christianity. So he provokes arguments in the hopes that someone will finally say something to allow him to shake his faith. (Faith being defined as pretending to know something that you really don't know)
I am confident that this will prove to be true with "Believer" also.
