NVR2L8, exactly. You started the process for the 5 year old- just repeat the answer they want to hear. And saying their desired answer in your own words is definitely a way to self-brainwash.
Under the radar, I would love for Venus and Serena Williams, Larry Graham, and maybe Damon Wayans to have a series on A&E on the JW's. Maybe Damon will consider it to boost his career.
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Self Brainwashing
by OnTheWayOut inso i would love to hear and make more comments here on how "self-brainwashing" is done in jehovah's witnesses and how it becomes a problem when trying to wake up our loved ones.leah remini was on bill maher's show on friday, feb. 17th.
she had some great comments about things said on her series about scientology.
one was how members are "self-brainwashing" because they spend some hours every day doing self-study.
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Self Brainwashing
by OnTheWayOut inso i would love to hear and make more comments here on how "self-brainwashing" is done in jehovah's witnesses and how it becomes a problem when trying to wake up our loved ones.leah remini was on bill maher's show on friday, feb. 17th.
she had some great comments about things said on her series about scientology.
one was how members are "self-brainwashing" because they spend some hours every day doing self-study.
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My wife has reached a point in her "personal study" where she covers material on the fly. While I am driving and listening to Pink Floyd, she breaks out her Watchtower. At home, watching comedy on television, she breaks out the laptop and covers their crap.
But she is still doing the self-brainwashing known as repetition and coercive persuasion. She doesn't care to do her studying, but has been convinced that it must be done.
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It just seems that there isn't enough in it to pin it to them
by joe134cd ini was just thinking this morning about the court cases wt is facing and although i do think there are enough of them is there just enough in them to pin it to wt.
i sort of get the feeling a lot of these cases are revolving around the definition of terms and also an attitude of could-a, should-a, would-a.
even with the latest example it raised more questions than solutions and i'm guessing that's why it was settled out of court.
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Waton, while much of what you say can be part of a discussion of the male sex drive, the main discussion here is not how WT is "caught in the squeeze" like it's gunna happen and there's nothing they can do about it. There's stuff they can do about it.
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Self Brainwashing
by OnTheWayOut inso i would love to hear and make more comments here on how "self-brainwashing" is done in jehovah's witnesses and how it becomes a problem when trying to wake up our loved ones.leah remini was on bill maher's show on friday, feb. 17th.
she had some great comments about things said on her series about scientology.
one was how members are "self-brainwashing" because they spend some hours every day doing self-study.
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waton, all good points. Continuous self "contamination."
Introvert 2, I used to listen to WT and Awake on cassettes when cleaning car dealerships at night- over and over again. I hated it and stopped after a month. Similarly as a convert, I had reasons to need it to be true and didn't question it for a long time.
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It just seems that there isn't enough in it to pin it to them
by joe134cd ini was just thinking this morning about the court cases wt is facing and although i do think there are enough of them is there just enough in them to pin it to wt.
i sort of get the feeling a lot of these cases are revolving around the definition of terms and also an attitude of could-a, should-a, would-a.
even with the latest example it raised more questions than solutions and i'm guessing that's why it was settled out of court.
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Plus, typically their settlements include a "gag order" to minimize notoriety and publicity. So, the "victim" gets a cash settlement and WTS gets to keep down the publicity.
Gag orders also mean that new court cases wind up starting from scratch. No previous precedents pave the way for a new case to be successful quicker than the settled cases.
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I need some advice please
by JaMu ini am a non-jw girl dating a jw man for almost 5 years now since end of high school.
most of the relationship has been long distance.
when we started dating, we wanted a serious long term relationship that would end in marriage one day.
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I try, I really try- to see all sides of a thing. You have invested all those years, you love him. He finally told his parents about you.
So, if what you have read from sincere people doesn't get you to break up with your JW boyfriend, perhaps you can proceed with a new viewpoint. Maybe the information here will open your eyes.
JW men are the head of their household. He thinks he will be the boss, no room for compromises on that. Even if you don't see that so much in him, his religion teaches him that. He will raise his children in that religion, it will be very important for him not to compromise there- no exposing them to both sides of the issues and letting them freely decide about birthdays, holidays, Mother's Day, sports, entertainment, yadda yadda.
If you think it will all work out, then try to make it all work out now. Be a bigger part of his life, no matter what his family and fellow JW's say. Tell him you aren't interested in becoming a JW, but would love to be on his arm at the Kingdom Hall to meet these people and see what the meeting is all about. See how well that goes. Surely, he would want to have the woman he will marry see that part of his life and surely two people dating for 5 years should be able to sit together and hold hands in "church" and meet people. You can let him a little off the hook and tell him he doesn't have to say to JW's that you two are "engaged" but have been dating for "awhile since High School."
Let us know how well that goes for you. From that point, maybe you could double-date with some JW's. And certainly, you will want to meet and spend time with his family.
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Self Brainwashing
by OnTheWayOut inso i would love to hear and make more comments here on how "self-brainwashing" is done in jehovah's witnesses and how it becomes a problem when trying to wake up our loved ones.leah remini was on bill maher's show on friday, feb. 17th.
she had some great comments about things said on her series about scientology.
one was how members are "self-brainwashing" because they spend some hours every day doing self-study.
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So I would love to hear and make more comments here on how "self-brainwashing" is done in Jehovah's Witnesses and how it becomes a problem when trying to wake up our loved ones.
Leah Remini was on Bill Maher's show on Friday, Feb. 17th. She had some great comments about things said on her series about Scientology. One was how members are "self-brainwashing" because they spend some hours every day doing self-study. Another great thought from Leah was “I’m in a tough position, because on one hand I’m attacking this cult and at the same time I know that the people who are still in are under this spell of doing good for the world because that’s what the organization is disseminating. ” -
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It just seems that there isn't enough in it to pin it to them
by joe134cd ini was just thinking this morning about the court cases wt is facing and although i do think there are enough of them is there just enough in them to pin it to wt.
i sort of get the feeling a lot of these cases are revolving around the definition of terms and also an attitude of could-a, should-a, would-a.
even with the latest example it raised more questions than solutions and i'm guessing that's why it was settled out of court.
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Watchtower doesn't promote pedophilia so it wouldn't always be clear cut that they are guilty of something. We understand that what they are guilty of is trying to avoid looking bad, trying to cover up that they have pedophiles among them. Their "Call Headquarters first" order is clearly designed to minimize damage when untrained elders get involved. It should be designed to protect children first.
Add in lawyers and it's tough to win cases. I don't blame victims for settling cases and moving on with their lives.
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Movies I'm Watching
by ILoveTTATT2 ini have, for about 6 months now, been trying to watch every single movie that was "cool" or interesting since 1960.it started out with a desire to watch as an adult all disney movies.
then it morphed into all bond movies (except for the non-canonicals).now it's turned into pretty much any and all movies.
here is my list, scratched out are ones i have seen, green are recent next-in line.turns out there was a lot i had never seen before, about 70% because of the cult restrictions!
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I love A CLOCKWORK ORANGE, FAST TIMES AT RIDGEMONT HIGH, all the ROCKY movies. Make sure you see those.
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Does Paul preach a fundamentally different religion than Jesus?
by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu incontroversy has arisen regarding jesus versus paul as scholars debate the different emphases and messages of jesus and paul.1 jesus preached the kingdom of heaven.
paul did not.
paul preached justification by faith alone.
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Paul never spoke of the empty tomb and the women there. His Christ who "appeared" to over 500 brothers was almost certainly a Christ of vision and myth. He said he "saw" Christ too, and we know that Paul was not literally in the presence of the man named Jesus of the Gospels. He saw the vision, the myth. Paul's Christ was not a man named Jesus who had recently lived.
Paul preached a mystic mysterious religion just like the others popular at the time. There was no mention of the virgin birth in Bethlehem or anything related to the man named Jesus.The man Jesus, even if based on an actual person, was created by others long after Paul's existence. They created the mythology that competed with those of Zeus, Dionysus, Isis, and the like. There is bound to be major differences between messages.