I appreciate the hard work that jwfacts has done. While this stuff is very important to people still waking up and wanting to know just how "wrong" Jehovah's Witnesses really are, I am quite satisfied with the answers that jwfacts provided. But feel free to demonstrate how "wrong" they are, how much they changed.
OnTheWayOut
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JWFacts is incorrect about "Holy Spirit". Do YOU know about the 40 or so years the WT taught there was NO holy spirit?
by Bad_Wolf ini did my own extensive research as i was getting out, and by exploring actual changes and mentions of core doctrine, i learned how it came about that the gb teach that only they know the truth and only they get holy spirit.
i was checking if jwfacts had it, and although they mention many older articles, it seems they didn't realize they taught there was no holy spirit.
this was a real big eye opener for me, so thought i'd share it, and curious if any of you knew about this yourselves????.
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What was the EXACT exJW website you first visited and why EXACTLY did you visit it?
by ILoveTTATT2 ini had two episodes of visiting exjw websites:one time around 2007 when i just googled "jehovah´s witnesses" and dared to look at those sites.
i was scared and i promised myself i would never come back to them.
however, that one didn´t really count.the moment that woke me up was this:i got to know that whitney heichel was a jw and murdered by another jw, because i overheard that conversation in a kingdom hall.i looked up the news and in one of the news comments, there was one where an exjw was complaining that they were hijacking her funeral and they were really trying to downplay the fact that her murderer was a jw... and then it said "visit jwfacts.com"... which i did.and the rest... is history.what exactly got you onto an apostate website when you woke up?
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OnTheWayOut
When I finally googled "Jehovah's Witnesses," there were a bunch of web pages. Before discovering jwfacts, I was going to Randy Watters' page quite a bit. I believe it was freeminds.org. Randy had a thing called TALK SOUP which linked to other stuff, much of it was threads on jehovahs-witness.com.
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When the WT study goes beyond what is written in the Bible.
by skin inin today's wt study, 9th sept 2018, para 14. we learnt that jesus mother, mary, is one of the 144.000 anointed at penticost.
just another classic, we know more than what is contained in scripture..
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OnTheWayOut
Don't they go beyond the written Bible when they even mention the 144,000 and what that means?
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Big news today
by former2free infor you who have read my bio you will know i have been working on my wife to wake her up.
now i won’t call her awake yet but through a series of long conversations this week i revealed to her my dissenting toward the jw faith.
she was totally supportive of me assured me she would never think differently of me because of how i feel.
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OnTheWayOut
Great news, good job. Good luck.
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Advice on my JW Mother
by InjusticeSystem ini need the advice of those of you who are exjw's on what to do about my still in mother.
briefly, here's the situation: i am a born-in, never got baptised (thank the fsm), became an athiest about 2015 but haven't come out to anyone but my wife and some trusted friends.
my mother was raised in the society and is a true believer, but was never as strict about it as some parents are when i was growing up.
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OnTheWayOut
My mother is so sure that Armageddon will come around some next corner any minute now. But we have found a middle ground where we are not supposed to talk about it. My situation is different as I am inactive and baptized. My mother violates our agreement not to talk about it, but just a little bit here and there.
I suck it up, as I see she is not ready at all to hear about how it is a dangerous mind control cult.
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Joined a church, now im getting love bombed.
by greenhornet inabout a year ago i started going to a local christain church.
they were good to me.
i missed the the jw type of always find some one to hang around with.
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OnTheWayOut
If you are so adamant that you don't go someplace without your gun, why the hell can't you just say that to these people?
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Interpretation often takes you away from truth
by Ireneus inyesterday, my classmate was giving an example from her homeland on how people can give various interpretations which have nothing to do with truth.
though studying in the us, she was closely monitoring what was happening in kerala (a small southern state of india), her birth place.
last month saw unprecedent heavy rains wreaking widespread havoc in this small state with huge population (which is much more than australia’s population).
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OnTheWayOut
Using desired interpretations is not limited to Christianity and the Bible. That's my biggest take from this.
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(How) Will The Slow and Subtle WT Internal Shift Affect Us?
by Solzhenitsyn inas a "deep pimo" i can say that there is a confirmed re-branding.
the coordinators committee formed a focus group from service and teaching committees.
the results of that group roughly three+ years ago, with gb approval, trickled down to the other committees and eventually into what we have been seeing before our eyes in the org and local congs.. pick an organizational level and see the shift.
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OnTheWayOut
Publisher statistics are for a giant printing company making profits from free distributors and near slave-labor costs, while it is profitting from such. No more true profit from the field from literature, so forget the PRC and convince them they need to be reaching out for JW titles.
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2018/19 new light
by Ray Frankz inhi guys, long time without paying a visit to this site.
today i returned to check a 'gossip' that is running around in brazilian exjw forums.. they are stating that is almost certain they will make a big change in their doctrine maybe this year yet in the annual meeting.
they say people in warwick were commenting on this.
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OnTheWayOut
When they went to the 1995 change for "this generation," I thought it was huge and they didn't do such major adjustments so often. Well, I just happened to join the cult after the 1975 and Ray Franz debacles, so they were low key with changes. But 1995 ended that.
I have seen "the end isn't so near," "education with a purpose," "OMG, the end is very near," "overlapping generation," "the Governing Body are the only FDS," and money-grabbing changes along with other stuff so numerous, I tire of listing them.
The election of Obama, the real estate market drop of 2008, the fall of the Soviet Union, good news, bad news, hurricanes, etc. all indicated the end was close.
I don't doubt they will announce something that seems big. They do it all the time now.
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Who wrote the Bible?
by Ireneus inthe wordings suggest much of the bible is written by false friends of god.
to mention a few:.
1) god planted a special tree to pay the way for suffering and death into the lives of his children.. 2) god protected cain who murdered his innocent brother out of sheer jealousy.
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OnTheWayOut
To ask "Who wrote the Bible?" and question so much of it- that is the beginning of wisdom.
All should take their own spiritual journey about this question.