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  Keeping Track Of The Brothers During The Great Tribulation

  by new boy in

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  2. friends

  i couldn’t help but watch the “bunker video “again.

  i learned that once they are in the bunkers they will need to get the attendance numbers from the different groups that are in hiding during the “great tribulation.” chris and wife risked their lives going to the different groups and getting the numbers and putting them on slip of paper which he then handed to brother brown.

  of course these numbers would have to be kept track of so they could make a full report back to the headquarters.

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  OnTheWayOut

  The bunker video is all nonsense as they never expect such a time to actually arrive but to remain "just around the corner."
  
  And if it did arrive, yes- they would be paranoid about the ones not at their meeting last week going over to the dark side. They would forget that Jehovah is supposed to protect them and take it upon themselves to keep their secret handshake and/or bunker location away from "Kevin."
  
  Imagine if they could "count their time" visiting faithful JW's in the nursing home, and could not "count their time" standing in front of a cart. That faithful elderly JW woman would be visited all day every day.
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  Why don't JWs have problems with board games involving dice?

  by cognisonance in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i don't really care about these things anymore, but i was reading this article (and it's a very good one): gamified life.. in the article it mentions (without references):.

  dice-based games of chance are thought to have originated with ancient divination practices involving thrown knucklebones.. .

  so it's okay to play yahtzee but not okay to go trick-or-treat.

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  Watchtower "demonized" things that encouraged interaction with outsiders. Birthday cake at school or the office led to normalized relations with worldly people. (Certainly, trick-or-treating did that, and Halloween is clearly an easy target to demonize.)

  Board games would most likely bring JW kids and family together. No need to poison the idea.
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  What Are The Differences Between JWs Born In and Converted?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i tend to think that many jws who joined the religion in their later years feel foolish or are embarrassed by their decision to become one of jehovah’s witnesses.

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  i’m not embarrassed by my years “in the truth “ because i was raised from infancy to believe everything was god’s word and who are we to question jehovah and his organization?

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  I tend to think that many JWs who joined the religion in their later years feel foolish or are embarrassed by their decision to become one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

  Well, yeah. I was exposed to it, stayed clear of it, then let it fully into my young adult life willingly.

  But I figured it all out through therapy.

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  
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  TV TRAILER: ‘Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath: The Jehovah’s Witnesses' Two Hour Special Event - A&E

  by MaybeSo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  tv trailer: ‘leah remini: scientology and the aftermath: the jehovah’s witnesses' two hour special event - a&e, 9pm et/pt, tues, nov 13, 2018. https://youtu.be/yzdege5im90.

  didn't see a post about it yet.

  will you be tuning in?

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  I greatly appreciate the exposure. Having been a JW, I can say that we believed some ultra-wacky stuff too.
  
  On the lighter side, if this causes any arguments about Lloyd, he will be the first to say in his non-apology that although he said nothing wrong, he is sorry that people are upset because of their own shortcomings.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body Member Stephen Lett explains "Doing it"

  by Not_Culty in

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  2. entertainment

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7yrcya_ym8.

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  When I click on the video, and any of John Cedars' videos, it says "This video requires payment to watch."
  
  So forget about it.
  
  Editing to add:
  
  Oh, now it's working. Not a Cedars video. Well, okay.
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  Bible's flaws

  by LostAdam in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what are some flaws of the bible that convince you that its not god's word.

  for example what about prophecies like babylon or prophecies about jesus birth and life that jw use to make you believe bible is god originated?

  i'd appreciate your comments.

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  The impossible FLOOD
  Chronology vs. archaeology
  The whole idea of live sacrifice
  Silly rules about food and land and boiling baby goats

  But mostly, God choosing a certain group of people to have insider information, deciding not to interfere with people figuring out they need to choose proper worship, but interfering all the time like at Babel, the flood, various battles.
  
  
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  What will JJ Abrams and Disney do for Star Wars episode IX?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  i heard that jj abrams has finished the screenplay and they'll be starting to shoot the final episode soon.. so where will the story go?.

  han solo is dead, snoke is dead, leia can only have a very limited role at best because carrie fisher unfortunately died .... plus, rey has already defeated the main villain once before, in her first lightsaber fight (in the force awakens, because 'ovaries!

  ', i guess xd).. and she saved his ass against snoke's elite guards (in the last jedi) - so it will be difficult to film any kind of dramatic tension between rey and kylo ren.. i won't be seeing this film in the cinema or buying it on dvd but i am kinda curious how things will pan out .... what do you think?.

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  Before most of you-all's time, but when an entire season of the television show DALLAS was made into a dream so that a dead character could be brought back on, I cease to wonder where continual series scripts can take you.
  
  In Star Wars movies, a character is not gone just because he is dead.
  In Star Wars movies, a previously cut scene can be put back in and a live actor can be covered over with Jabba the Hut, so the point is that much footage exists, much technology exists to change it or make it different.
  
  I suspect it will be similar to scripts of the past where there is a new super weapon that all good guys must overcome. Maybe Kylo Ren will die but turn away from the dark side.
  Chewbacca is very much alive, so maybe Lando and Chewbacca will save the day....or maybe the droids will have a bigger role in it all. R2D2 will turn out to the new leader of freedom.
  
  Who cares? It is fun to speculate, but in the end, it's a movie that many over-involved fans will get upset about.
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  Great tribulation

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  you've likely heard all this before, but i had to laugh (silently) at the public talk today.. he focused on how close we are to the end.

  we're not only in the last days, but we're in "the final part" of the last days.. also, we are nearing "the end of the final part of the last days".

  he didn't read any scriptures backing up how the last days are broken up like this.. i went today since relatives es were visiting, but it was more entertaining than usual.. as well, the gb isn't warning us about armageddon, rather they're mainly warning about the great tribulation, which is "very, very, close!

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  Ha, Blondie. I used to give the public talk about the image in the book of Daniel and I said we were in the time of the toes. But that was more than 20 years ago, so we would be on the toenails now.

  We are a cat's whisker away from the end as we find ourselves at the very end of the short period known as the final days of the end of the very last part of the dwindling last days which will imminently bring a start to the Millennium.
  
  Hey, I heard that some are saying that Jehovah's Witnesses teach that we are already in the Millennium, and that it started in October, 1914.
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  1975—Were You Affected By What 1975 Was Supposed to Bring?

  by minimus in

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  for years , we were told to wait until 1975!.

  the end was coming and we better be ready—or else!.

  were you around during this “momentous “ time??

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  I was a kid. My aunt joined the JW's because the end of the world was coming in 1975, and she eventually got my mother into it. My mother studied with me and my siblings and my father hated it. My parents divorced, some of it because of the JW's. They almost got back together, but in a drunken state, my father called my mother after midnight when January 1st, 1976 arrived and said "I am still here!" That was all she could take of that.
  
  YADDA YADDA YADDA, I was a kid but became a JW later because of 1975.
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  Can someone help me figure out something, dealing with paganism?

  by Tameria2001 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower and quite a few other religious groups don't do certain things because of pagan origins.

  they go on about the different holidays, certain traditions, and say they don't do those things because of pagan origins.

  yet they turn right around and do other stuff, which does have pagan origins.

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  OnTheWayOut

  As Sir82 says, "Clearly, breathing is of pagan origin." It would seem that most everything is of pagan origin.

  Watchtower picks things to be against, mostly based on how it will make members uncomfortable around worldly people, particularly family, coworkers, and schoolmates.

  Weddings bring JW's together and offer opportunities to show worldly family that they are almost normal, but birthday cakes cause coworkers, schoolmates, and worldly family to show their friendly good side, so Watchtower poisons it. Similar with holiday celebrations. But wedding rings are a protection (or at least used to be) from outsider advances.