Many believers will wake up sometime in their lifetime and stop believing. It might not happen until they are old and realize they have wasted their life in belief.
The rest will die believing, and not go to Heaven or Hell and will never know they were wrong.
OnTheWayOut
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How it will end for the believers
by iankiptoo intoday, many signs have been fulfilled showing that we are in the end times and much has been said in regards to armageddon, tribulation... etc but little in regards to what happens to those who believe and what transitions them to be free and escape from all that to the final destination.
this is my focus and message is based on that.in creation, there were two trees at the centre of the garden of eden and we are familiar with what happened;man ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and then we are familiar with the ramifications afterwards.
now through jesus christ, the events that will lead to the end for those who believe are in 3 stages1.knowledge will be increased (daniel 12:4)there will be a transition, knowledge will transition from that of the tree of knowledge of good and evil to also include knowledge of the tree of life and this brings with it a transformation that will bring in the second phase2.healingthe knowledge/belief/faith will bring about spiritual transformational healing, also practical knowledge i.e.
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The Evolution Of The Watchtower Cult
by pale.emperor insince waking up from the cult i've been curious about where the cult is going and how will it end up?
will it fizzle out or become a little fringe "religion" like plymouth bretheren or the shakers?.
we've already seen the cult evolve from:.
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I was surpised to learn that many hardcore teachings being pushed in the 1980's and 90's as if "we always taught that," were radical changes.
Apparently, Watchtower has to keep changing their doctrines when the calender causes a problem or when money becomes the catalyst.
Now, I am pretty much immune to the constant changes. Let me know when they drop 1914 entirely or announce a definite doomsday date.
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How it will end for the believers
by iankiptoo intoday, many signs have been fulfilled showing that we are in the end times and much has been said in regards to armageddon, tribulation... etc but little in regards to what happens to those who believe and what transitions them to be free and escape from all that to the final destination.
this is my focus and message is based on that.in creation, there were two trees at the centre of the garden of eden and we are familiar with what happened;man ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and then we are familiar with the ramifications afterwards.
now through jesus christ, the events that will lead to the end for those who believe are in 3 stages1.knowledge will be increased (daniel 12:4)there will be a transition, knowledge will transition from that of the tree of knowledge of good and evil to also include knowledge of the tree of life and this brings with it a transformation that will bring in the second phase2.healingthe knowledge/belief/faith will bring about spiritual transformational healing, also practical knowledge i.e.
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...or none of that.
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Need help in finding some information regarding the Adam and Eve tale.
by Tameria2001 ini am finally at the point in my life i no longer believe in the tales of the bible.
my husband feels for the most part that it too is stuff made up.
there are just a few things that he wants to get cleared up, and one of those being the story of adam and eve.
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OnTheWayOut
I feel that if you follow this expert on the Hebrew Bible, Francesca Stavrakopoulou, you may get anwers. Don't purchase any material unless you are sure you want it. Many videos and books, papers are free on the internet somewhere.
She did a BBC series called THE BIBLE'S BURIED SECRETS (not to be confused with an American series by same name.) One episode was THE REAL GARDEN OF EDEN. I saw it on youtube or similar.
It is a journey to learn the real truth, or to unlearn the lies. Enjoy wherever it takes you.
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New Armageddon date?
by neat blue dog inlooking at the most recent wt the study article focuses on the jubilees.
the made a separate box in the article to highlight the math behind jubilees, and i'm wondering if they're trying to get people thinking and stir up the pot without actually making a false prophecy.
for instance: jubilees happened every 7 times 7 years.
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Sometimes, my posts drop everything after the quote. When I try to correct it, it gets worse.
I said after quoting eyuse2badub above:
"They will NEVER attach new doctrine to their old failed predictions for 1975. They will not attach anything new to something that reminds people how wrong they were. It will never happen." -
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New Armageddon date?
by neat blue dog inlooking at the most recent wt the study article focuses on the jubilees.
the made a separate box in the article to highlight the math behind jubilees, and i'm wondering if they're trying to get people thinking and stir up the pot without actually making a false prophecy.
for instance: jubilees happened every 7 times 7 years.
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OnTheWayOut
Look out for 2025! That will be the Jubilee year dating from 1975. Remember 1975 the "can't fail " year that Armageddon would destroy billions!
Yep 1975 + 50 = 2025.
Oops is there a zero year that I missed? If so maybe it's 2026. My guess is as good as theirs!
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Terrence Howard quitting acting to bring "the truth"
by neat blue dog inhttps://thegrio.com/2019/09/13/terrence-howard-announces-hes-done-with-acting-after-empire-ends/amp/.
after leaving the limelight his plans include “bringing the truth to the world.”.
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Jehovah's Witnesses are like Scientology but for famous "Black" people instead of famous "White" people.
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Seeking advice
by Mizalisa ini'm not a jw, nor was i raised jw.
for the past three years i have been involved with a man who was raised jw, who at first told me he no longer believed as they did, but who, it has become clear over time, has not told his family or religious community the truth.
he has strung me along for years, never introduced me to anyone in his life.
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OnTheWayOut
My condolences on your loss of love. I just wanted to add that you should not be wanting to kick yourself for not realizing how "in" he still is. He was lying to himself as much as anything else.
While it would be wonderful to help such a person, the most help was to leave and have him realize what he lost because he wasn't ready to look at it honestly.
I wish you peace. Hey, there are a bunch of awesome single ex-Jehovah's Witnesses on this site. The vast majority of them will never go back. LOL, but you might just want to go out there and find someone not involved at all. -
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The biggest mistake.
by Half banana ina long time ago, before television radio and films, before printing, before the invention of writing, people listened only to the spoken word—and the cry of birds, the wind whistling through the trees and the sea crashing on the sea shore.
before written text they knew about the gods because high up there in the night sky was where they lived; gods, goddesses and immortal heroes.
the constellations told of their exploits.
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I believe that mankind had mostly outgrown any literal belief in their own stories. They pretty well knew that myths were told as entertainment or to remember the constellations and because they didn't have much else in the way of stories except gossip.
The gatherers of the Bible, I believe the same was true for awhile. But somewhere in there, priests of one kind or another messed it all up. Compare Christianity to Islam or eastern beliefs- they still retain much of that idea that their stories are just stories. -
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Trump Derangement Syndrome Is Alive and Well
by minimus ini was on facebook and a person i have known for a long time posted how trump is mentally ill and is truly a psychopath.
a couple of her friends chimed in when i suggested that perhaps the fb friend was really the psychopath.
a couple of her friends began to defend her but i was surprised by how many people defended the president!
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OnTheWayOut
Trump Derangement Syndrome Is Alive and Well.
Yeah, likewise- Denial that Trump is a complete idiot is alive and well.