Posts by OnTheWayOut

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Paperback Bible

by PoppyR in

my mum proudly showed me the latest development, a cheap horrible paperback bible, she said how great it was to be able to turn the pages so easily!!

how do the dubs do it?

get people excited over making things cheaper and nastier.

OnTheWayOut

Paperback books are for saving money, with the expectations that publishers will give them out. No different with the Bible.

Most Householders never ruin it because they look at it, then shelve or trash it.

The big drawback is for the JW's themselves, with the "free" books getting a new one every time they
lose or forget their old one. Also, the paperback book does not last for a JW.

Surely, these books will be short lived in JW's bookbags, so they will have to increase the guilt
on them paying a donation for them. I know that people at my hall have been very careful with
their older hardcover Bibles, so they can avoid using the soft ones.

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My oldest son found me this morning!!!

by Frannie Banannie in

i've looked for him for 16 yrs.

and he found me this morning.

:) there are 8 and my oldest son has the only two g/sons that i have.. we were lost to each other before i left the wts, because when i lived in california and he lived in colorado springs, we both moved at the same time and we each had unlisted numbers.. i'm very, very pleased and excited.

OnTheWayOut

Great news, good day for you.

16

Do they have the right to stick something through your door ?

by A Paduan in

do they have the right to stick something through your door ?.

came home to find some non-prophet litter-at-ya inside the house, shoved through a wee gap in the door.. it's like they just entered uninvited as they pleased for themselves - i wonder if i have grounds for legal complaint for such rudeness and contempt of other people's privacy.. maybe we could shove propaganda through the door down at their hall .

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OnTheWayOut

Maybe we could shove propaganda through the door down at their hall

It would be just as effective as the stuff they shoved under your door. Feel free to do it, but don't expect results.

The thing about this campaign, they are supposed to be really sending a strong message, but most of them
just leave it at the door and never speak, most of these papers wind up in the trash, then later they will brag
about how many were left for people.

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What is your purpose here?

by The Scotsman in

jw
friends

it is interesting to read the posts here.

people desperately trying to convince themselves that they were right to give up!.

is this your purpose in coming here????.

OnTheWayOut

avengers said:

Scotsman, you do know that by coming to this forum you have lost Jehovah's blessing and will not
survive Armageddon?

I have to agree. Scotsman, if you know it is "the Truth" then you would be 100% obedient to
those "spirit directed" representatives of the Faithful and Discreet Slave, the Governing Body,
as they instructed you clearly at your District Convention (which you attended and paid attention
to all 3 days) not to go to these web sites. Of course, you will either be destroyed at your
Armageddon or you will have to repent and confess to the elders that you were engaging in
discussions with apostates. You have no other options. They might forgive you, those 3 men,
if you do as they say. They will probably suggest that you give up your internet to remove
temptation, and since you will have been reproved, you will lose your commenting privileges and
be not qualified to pioneer or have responsibility in the congregation.

You could also try to argue with the 3 men, representatives of Jehovah, that they are wrong-
there is nothing wrong with being on a discussion forum. In which case, you will be disfellowshipped,
and then can join us here at anytime you want to- until you are destroyed. You won't have family and
friends to talk to within the organization anymore, so we will become very important to you.

Before you go on in this thread, please tell us that you have discussed this forum with your BOE, and
tell us how that went.

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Help me corner them!

by Sam87 in

jw
friends

hi everyone, just would like a bit of advice on how to 'corner' my ex jw mates so they see im right with only what their publications say and with the bible?

i have a few ideas up my sleave but i was hoping to get a few other good examples on other topics like the blood thing, but only prove them wrong using their material, that way they cant say its 'apostate' (although you never know what some jws will come up with these days).. for example whats the best and least confusing way to explain the blood thing?

we really need a reference on all of this so that we can make up a single letter that exsplains everything that they have contradicted themselves with and all the mixed up stuff they have done, straight to the point and soooo simple that even a jw can read and understand it (maybe a nice picture book with colouring in?).

OnTheWayOut

http://members.aol.com/Beyondjw/da.htm is a sample DA letter.

http://members.aol.com/beyondjw/waloda.htm is one example of instructions on how to write a DA letter.

Lurk around here, read more about the issues and doctrines. I also recommend the links within
freeminds.org and reexamine.org.

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Help me corner them!

by Sam87 in

jw
friends

hi everyone, just would like a bit of advice on how to 'corner' my ex jw mates so they see im right with only what their publications say and with the bible?

i have a few ideas up my sleave but i was hoping to get a few other good examples on other topics like the blood thing, but only prove them wrong using their material, that way they cant say its 'apostate' (although you never know what some jws will come up with these days).. for example whats the best and least confusing way to explain the blood thing?

we really need a reference on all of this so that we can make up a single letter that exsplains everything that they have contradicted themselves with and all the mixed up stuff they have done, straight to the point and soooo simple that even a jw can read and understand it (maybe a nice picture book with colouring in?).

OnTheWayOut

Garybuss offers good advice.

Cat on the roof, the doctrine doesn't teach that there will be no meat-eating in paradise. Individuals just
figure that if Bambi will just walk up to you, how can you put her on your plate?

Otherwise, I fully agree with your logic. JW's will shut out your logic, though. Their minds are programmed to
return to mantra when confronted with logic conflicts. "The light is getting brighter and brighter- I will
understand better in the future." "Satan keeps transforming himself into an angel of light- beware what his
apostate agents say, don't engage in these debate." There are others.

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Can a regular JW sue an Elder?

by beavis in

has anyone heard of this "new light"?

supposedly it is acceptable to "take your brother to court" which would incur the possiblity of loss of privilieges of position.

however, when one chooses to sue an elder, this would be a disfellowshipping offense because the elders are considered to be the society's representatives and an act of a lawsuit against an elder would be considered an act against the society because of the elders being considered their representatives.. .

OnTheWayOut

I was up to date on what elders heard or were instructed up until early August.
I never heard any new light on the subject. As far as my understanding of what
you are saying, sueing an elder would be no different than sueing another
publisher. You can do it, it is frowned on. Yes, sueing a brother could put
your position in jeopardy (and his), but they would only encourage you to not
sue a brother and never insist upon it. Insistence could lead to civil suits against
the organization.

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Exciting New Use For Tract

by Asheron in

jw
friends

i came home from work yesterday and lo and behold, a faithfull servant of jah had dropped off the new tract!!

i devoured the exciting words of death and destruction.

i especially liked the second picture of the nasty harlot getting eaten.

OnTheWayOut

Don't do it Butters, the federal authorities won't like it.

Stick with the pumpkin idea if you gotta do something.

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The Battery is almost Dead.

by KW13 in

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friends

for over 100 years the same message of doom and gloom for the world has been preached with a twist.

if your a jehovah's witness you can be saved.. .

i think people are tired of expecting the end of the system, the older generation (there are more older ones than younger i am guessing) are seeing the end of their lives when they thought they never would and some of them probably think about the false prophecy.. .

OnTheWayOut

in the 70's and 80's.... WE were given 100 tracts with this "same urgent message" to be distributed in TEN days !
Was it MORE urgent back then?

Sunspot hit it out of the park here. This proves the battery is ver very very WEAK. Ready to die.

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Are you really free from the Watchtower?

by yaddayadda in

jw
friends

the thread on how long it took you to get out of the organisation made me think.

i honestly think anyone that spends more than half an hour per day on anti-jw sites like this is, psychologically, not out of the organisation at all, despite their best protests.

the watchtower clearly still fascinates them to the point of an obsessive, compulsive need to frequently post on this website and others.

OnTheWayOut

Good post Jaguarbass.

We can all choose our relaxation anyway we want to. Still, your post totals is not extremely high for the time you have here. I understand the original premise that some are addicts here- they freaked out when the JWD was temporarily down. You just have better balance.