How in the world do they put such a video on the same website that Tight Pants Tony contributes to?
OnTheWayOut
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Beads and Tight Jeans APPROVED Service Attire For a Brother?
by sparky1 inmany, many, many posters here have wondered what happened to the religion that they were raised in or baptized into 20 or more years ago.
i just got the shock of my life on jw(dot) org.tv!
there is a video testimonial of an american indian witness that was inactive for many years and has now begun to preach again.
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DC2015 New Release: Brochure "Return to Jehovah" for those who faded/left
by Designer Stubble init appears that a new 16-page brochure, with the title "return to jehovah" is to be released at the regional convention (dc) this year.
it would be written specifically for those faded or da/df.chapters are:a letter from the governing body1.
the lost one i will search for2.
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OnTheWayOut
It would be written specifically for those faded or DA/DF.
Great, now someone might just try to reactivate me. NAH!!!!!! It's like others have said- appearances only.
The C.O. said they were to "snatch me out of the fire." They didn't try for more than one effort to get me back. They won't try now either.
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Dating After Leaving?
by Garrett inhey guys,.
this is going to be a topic of a different nature.
so, while i am not looking to date at the current moment since i'm still trying to figure out who i am and what i want life, i do want to start dating in the near future.. my issue is that i've been in for almost all my life and it's left a big hole when it comes to my romantic life.. i was wondering, after leaving, did any of you date?
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OnTheWayOut
Dating. Man oh man. Ex-JW's are all over the map.
I don't know how e-harmony matched such a wonderful person as Mrs. Flipper with Mr. Flipper but maybe it would do the same for you. (Just kidding and jabbing at one of my best friends.)
I am not dating because I remain married to my JW wife. But I have seen ex-JW's find other ex-JW's and I have seen them strike out in other areas. In most cases, it seems that people move on to the area of life they are most comfortable with. Some are most comfortable going back out into the world and making friends via other ex-JW's via meetup.com groups of ex-JW or other places where ex-JW's meet together. Most seem to find a mate through their other ways of trying to be "normal" again- joining classes or groups that share an interest. Most seem to share their JW experience after a couple of dates because it is important to them and they don't want to waste their time with someone who won't see it as "important" to them.
Again, Mrs. Flipper is a great example. She reached out to the jw . com community on this forum and tried to learn about us. She loves learning and sharing with us about our ex-JW experience even though she was not involved at the time. She does that in order to share her husband's life more fully. While you won't (maybe) find someone like that, if you are asking if you should share the experience, it probably means you need to share it. Good luck.
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My father is a f*****g a*****e
by Butyoucanneverleave inthis is my first post.
i just had to get that statement off of my chest!
my father is one cold hearted judge mental, hypocritical, piece of s**t. i hate this religion and what it has done to my family!
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OnTheWayOut
Official welcome to you, a long-time reader, first-time poster.
You have checked out of the Hotel-Jehovah's-Witnesses but you can never truly leave because of your family ties. I would like to make an excuse for your father, but I cannot. I don't know him at all and whether he is just another victim of the cult or a willing "flaming ashpile" (that is what you meant, isn't it?).
He just might be another one who could say "We are all just prisoners here, of our own device"
I hope you feel welcome to vent here and that some help is found. See you around the water cooler.
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walking out and about.
by zeb injust starting back slow and steady at my walking after a ride in an ambulance recently.
heart is fine im glad to say.
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OnTheWayOut
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How To Witness to Jehovah's Witnesses Video
by Perry ini recently shared my views on how to witness to jehovah's witnesses to a local congregation.
the video link is also below:.
maybe this will help some reach out to loved ones that are still members.. .
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OnTheWayOut
I can say everything that I want to say to a JW in less than 5 minutes. On dozens of occasions, I have achieved the "deer in the headlights" look every time using the method that my wife and I demonstrated.
You can never "say" anything in less than 5 minutes. You always find some link to bizarre thoughts that takes an hour or more. I saw the preachy look of this video and that it was over an hour and I didn't even bother with it. (I probably should just to see what you and your wife look like, but since there is no actual bird on your shoulder, I lose interest.) That's the reaction of a JW also- instant turn-off. And your getting a JW to have that "deer in the headlights" look- how helpful is that? I know you think you are reaching them because you reach a stumping point. But time and time again, people have stumped your closed mind on this forum by pointing out flaws in your fundamentalist thinking or demonstrating why evolution or global warming must be true. You get that "deer" look and then just go on and post more links to garbage.
I am pretty sure the average JW just goes on when you point out contradictions to their beliefs in the book that is loaded with contradictions. Perry, all I ever see from you is that you are the JW of fundamentalism here. You refuse to learn and grow in any direction other than "I have the truth, I know I am right."
Remember, I continue to point this out to you because you are just like a JW. I believe you truly want someone to reach through your closed mind and wake you up. It's why you keep posting garbage here. You truly want us to snap you out of accepting it.
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If someone asked you, 'Are you a righteous person'? What would be your answer?
by Esse quam videri inwhat would be your answer?
are you are a righteous person?
on a scale of 1-10, how righteous do you feel you are?.
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OnTheWayOut
[Those who do not believe in righteousness may leave. Please close the door quietly behind you.]
Alrighty then. I looked it up.
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right·eousˈrīCHəs/adjective- 1.(of a person or conduct) morally right or justifiable; virtuous."he is a good, righteous man, I am sure"
synonyms: good, virtuous, upright, upstanding, decent; More
2.USinformalvery good; excellent."righteous bread pudding"---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------So after I looked it up, I determined that "righteous" is not exclusive to religion and believers in God. Who doesn't accept that some kind of pudding isn't that good that it is righteous, or that a person is decent and upright enough for that label?I had a feeling your question really led to a Biblical standard of following what each poster believes are God's standards of righteousness, just by your attempt to dismiss people that don't "believe in righteousness."
While I never had "righteous" bread pudding, I have had "righteous" sexual encounters and "righteous" reactions to alcohol/chemical experiences.
I have also determined that I have a way better standard of righteousness than the racist, womanizing, rape-approving, killer of the Bible than it's God does.
I am a decent guy. I don't go around deliberately hurting people. I don't kill people and take their virgin daughters as "wives." I give myself a TEN. -
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Tony's life story
by life is to short inso i finally read tony's life story and this one point really hit me where he was talking about his son's.
on page 7 he say's "because they made the truth their own, they make susan and me look good.
so those who children leave the "truth" look bad?.
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OnTheWayOut
I won't be reading Tony's story because I made a 2011 New Year's Resolution to not read Watchtower garbage. I am not so ridged that I won't look at a thing or two, but reading their articles or viewing their videos in their entirety just makes me upset, so I don't do it.
So those who children leave the "truth" look bad?
I am sure that statement is intentional. It is a way to belittle anyone they wish to whose children did not stay in the religion, and it further emphasizes the need to make your children follow the rules and to break their spirit of "independence."
I was told that I SHOULD NEVER HAVE KIDS in this worldly system, Woe the pregnant women and yad, yad, yad. I was only about 12 years old in 1975 but I clearly remember the warning about not having kids.
You were correct in your understanding, but they must embrace those that didn't obey as fully as you because children are the only recruits they seem to get these days.
You are experiencing the two-faced speaking of Jehovah's Witnesses and their leaders. They can elevate themselves with the same actions that demote others. You and your husband were low-level members. Perhaps, at the congregation level, you could have experienced double standard blessings if you remained seemingly in line with the leaders, but you must not question them for even that to happen. -
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BART EHRMAN answers my question
by TerryWalstrom inas a member on bart ehrman's blog, i am able to ask him direct questions.is jehovah in the bible?.
question:.
how firmly grounded in reality is the claim of jehovahs witnesses that the divine name (jehovah) belongs in the new testament?.
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OnTheWayOut
He writes stuff like a child throwing a tantrum:
I immediately thought of what Perry writes when I read that.
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Red Bull punted in baptismal talk
by Vidqun inan acquaintance reported that the brother giving the baptismal talk at a regional assembly recently punted red bull a few times.
he never mentioned red bull by name, but he referred to the drink that "gives you wings" more than once.
this sounds like subliminal advertising.
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OnTheWayOut
If it were said that baptism or taking life's water from Jehovah's Witnesses is comparable to a drink whose slogan is "gives you wings," then it was a horrible illustration that will confuse all those converted Catholics that it is part of the path to heaven- getting your angel wings. It will contribute (in some small way) in that area to partakers at the Memorial.
Either that, or it's just something that was said and 99% weren't really listening.