I imagine the age-cap will come about if necessary. They can always have a campaign to convince older ones that they can be more valuable as examples of submissiveness to the "young" elders.
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What happens to the elders?
by Worldling9 inwith so many khs closing and congos consolidating, what happens to the elders?
clearly there won't be a place for all of them.
would the older ones be the first to go, losing their long held positions of 'power'?.
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I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
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JW Comedy By An Ex-JW
by Joe Grundy indeborah frances white 30 min radio show 14 oct.. highly recommended.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07x6mf3.
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That was funny. I liked this other one from her even better, where she described being a teen JW. There, toward the end, she said something profound. When you leave JW's, you do everything you've given up on. Leaving a cult is like waking up from a coma- you have to live every year after that as if it's 3....and you spend a lot of time trying to live the year you should have been 18, because when I was 18, I lived like I was auditioning for the Wizard Of OZ.
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JW Comedy By An Ex-JW
by Joe Grundy indeborah frances white 30 min radio show 14 oct.. highly recommended.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07x6mf3.
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I am listening right now. This is pretty good.
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Webster tells us that truth is “that which is true,” but that isn't very helpful. I could make a statement and say that it is a true statement, but that just leads to questions such as these; What is a true statement? Is it different from a statement made truthfully? Such highly abstract discussions will get us nowhere.
Some feel that truth is subjective and personal, that one man’s truth comes from his inner feelings and
thinking, his viewpoint. Many add that truth is relative, only defined by its comparison to something else. This would be similar to the abstract question, “What is beauty?” In subjective truth, different persons would
have different truths. Outside of philosophy, truth is not generally thought of in subjective terms. Truth is determined by existing realities, based on facts independent of the mind. Most people think that truth is objective. Some go so far as to say that only absolute truth matters."Absolute truth" is defined as inflexible reality: fixed, invariable, unalterable facts.Even here, truth can be a perception. Absolute truth requires an absolute standard. If I make the objective statement that “Earth is the third planet out from the sun,” it seems like a fixed unalterable fact. But another person could ask, “Whose definition of ‘planet’ are you using?” “Is it possible that there are other undiscovered planets between the earth and sun?” “When you say ‘out from the sun,’ do you mean in distance or a straight line?”
But to the original question, the definition of objective "truth" is generally that which is accepted by the vast majority as factual. Not a simple majority, but the VAST majority. So it's mostly boring uncontroversial facts. As soon as someone objects to the subject or the conclusions, they also decide to question whether something is "truth." Examples are things like global warming, or facts that fly in the face of beliefs.
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Article: Are There Contradictions in the Bible?
by ttdtt inwhen online looking at the recent wt there was a link to this..https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/are-there-contradictions-in-the-bible/.
here are the "big" ones they disproved - though not really:).
if god rested on the seventh day, how has he continued working?where did jesus heal the blind man?will the earth be destroyed?in capernaum, who brought the centurion’s request to jesus?do we all sin?is jesus equal to god or lesser than god?.
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Are There Contradictions in the Bible?
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Impact of NWT
by menrov inhi all, just recently i was thinking about the period of my study and eventual baptism as jw.
it took many years, i guess in all about 10 years.
various times i stopped the study but after a while it started again.
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There have been many who have become JW when the NWT was not available in their language. That's all I got to say about that.
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Hey everyone
by coffee_black inpopping in to say hi.... been away from the forum for a long time.... had some serious health issues starting at the beginning of this year.
on the mend now, and getting back into the swing of things.... great to be alive!.
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Great to hear you are alive and on the mend. Power to you.
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The Great October 2016 Invite to the Sunday Meeting campaign ...
by freddo inwell how's it going round your way?
massive increase of interested ones?
did you even know it was supposed to be happening?
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Hey, I am an inactive one. Nobody invited me. I knew nothing of a campaign.
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Can Someone Explain To Me, Are The Org In Debt Or Rich?
by pale.emperor inhi guys.. im aware of the orgs blatant hints to donate, donate, donate to the org, the sacking of bethel staff, selling of buildings, reducing mags and books, emphasis on digital rather than physical books etc which is obviously a money saver - but are the wt org in money difficulty?
because elsewhere on here and on youtube there's stories of the watchtower being mega rich, one even called it "a billion dollar organization".
and if there is any money in there, who's benefiting off it?
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OnTheWayOut
When you are a giant publishing company, and all publications from newspapers to magazines to books are yesterday's profits and today's burden, it's hard to change and stay profitable. And then there are lawsuits galore.
Borders book stores were forced to start selling e-readers. It was the beginning of their end. No point in buying a $25 book at Borders when you can buy it on Amazon for a download fee less than half of that. No point in even going to Borders if that's the case. Watchtower is heading that way right now. But even worse, their "product" is laughable to young people, so while some members won't be "buying" literature, others are heading away from the religion and never going back.
But just as the Wall Street Journal is still around, it takes awhile to get rid of a giant. After Brooklyn, there's still all those Kingdom Halls and Assembly Halls. There's still some profit in annual conventions and there's still many ways they can cut costs until it's just the Governing Body and a few internet gurus running the company. I think they are doomed, but I think they will be around for my lifetime. I hope I am wrong.
