Posts by OnTheWayOut

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When the WT study goes beyond what is written in the Bible.

by skin in

in today's wt study, 9th sept 2018, para 14. we learnt that jesus mother, mary, is one of the 144.000 anointed at penticost.

just another classic, we know more than what is contained in scripture..

OnTheWayOut

Don't they go beyond the written Bible when they even mention the 144,000 and what that means?
Don't they go beyond the written Bible whenever they say anything?

19

Big news today

by former2free in

for you who have read my bio you will know i have been working on my wife to wake her up.

now i won’t call her awake yet but through a series of long conversations this week i revealed to her my dissenting toward the jw faith.

she was totally supportive of me assured me she would never think differently of me because of how i feel.

Advice on my JW Mother

by InjusticeSystem in

i need the advice of those of you who are exjw's on what to do about my still in mother.

briefly, here's the situation: i am a born-in, never got baptised (thank the fsm), became an athiest about 2015 but haven't come out to anyone but my wife and some trusted friends.

my mother was raised in the society and is a true believer, but was never as strict about it as some parents are when i was growing up.

My mother is so sure that Armageddon will come around some next corner any minute now. But we have found a middle ground where we are not supposed to talk about it. My situation is different as I am inactive and baptized. My mother violates our agreement not to talk about it, but just a little bit here and there.

I suck it up, as I see she is not ready at all to hear about how it is a dangerous mind control cult.

I wish I had a better story for you, but that's how I deal with it.

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Joined a church, now im getting love bombed.

by greenhornet in

about a year ago i started going to a local christain church.

they were good to me.

i missed the the jw type of always find some one to hang around with.

OnTheWayOut

If you are so adamant that you don't go someplace without your gun, why the hell can't you just say that to these people?

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Interpretation often takes you away from truth

by Ireneus in

yesterday, my classmate was giving an example from her homeland on how people can give various interpretations which have nothing to do with truth.

though studying in the us, she was closely monitoring what was happening in kerala (a small southern state of india), her birth place.

last month saw unprecedent heavy rains wreaking widespread havoc in this small state with huge population (which is much more than australia’s population).

OnTheWayOut

Using desired interpretations is not limited to Christianity and the Bible. That's my biggest take from this.

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(How) Will The Slow and Subtle WT Internal Shift Affect Us?

by Solzhenitsyn in

as a "deep pimo" i can say that there is a confirmed re-branding.

the coordinators committee formed a focus group from service and teaching committees.

the results of that group roughly three+ years ago, with gb approval, trickled down to the other committees and eventually into what we have been seeing before our eyes in the org and local congs.. pick an organizational level and see the shift.

OnTheWayOut

Publisher statistics are for a giant printing company making profits from free distributors and near slave-labor costs, while it is profitting from such. No more true profit from the field from literature, so forget the PRC and convince them they need to be reaching out for JW titles.

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2018/19 new light

by Ray Frankz in

hi guys, long time without paying a visit to this site.

today i returned to check a 'gossip' that is running around in brazilian exjw forums.. they are stating that is almost certain they will make a big change in their doctrine maybe this year yet in the annual meeting.

they say people in warwick were commenting on this.

OnTheWayOut

When they went to the 1995 change for "this generation," I thought it was huge and they didn't do such major adjustments so often. Well, I just happened to join the cult after the 1975 and Ray Franz debacles, so they were low key with changes. But 1995 ended that.

I have seen "the end isn't so near," "education with a purpose," "OMG, the end is very near," "overlapping generation," "the Governing Body are the only FDS," and money-grabbing changes along with other stuff so numerous, I tire of listing them.

The election of Obama, the real estate market drop of 2008, the fall of the Soviet Union, good news, bad news, hurricanes, etc. all indicated the end was close.

I don't doubt they will announce something that seems big. They do it all the time now.

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Who wrote the Bible?

by Ireneus in

the wordings suggest much of the bible is written by false friends of god.

to mention a few:.

1) god planted a special tree to pay the way for suffering and death into the lives of his children.. 2) god protected cain who murdered his innocent brother out of sheer jealousy.

OnTheWayOut

To ask "Who wrote the Bible?" and question so much of it- that is the beginning of wisdom.

All should take their own spiritual journey about this question.

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Did the jw's leadership ever apologize for 1975?

by dugout in

jw
friends

talking to my friend who's an elder, when i asked him did the leadership ever attempt to apologize for the 1975 prediction fiasco he said they did.

and he was going to show me.

i'm still waiting..................................................tic toc did they???

OnTheWayOut

Basically, Watchtower "implied" very heavily that the end was coming in 1975. They left just barely enough room to say "We never DIRECTLY SAID THAT." Then later, Watchtower totally blamed the members for believing they said this.

Much later, when there was murmuring in the membership about whether they should take the blame or if Watchtower did indeed lead the people to believe they said the end was coming in 1975, they came out with "Okay, we did mention the possibility and we encouraged caution, but many focused on the possibility and we didn't really stop you from being wrong."

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Dec 2018 Watchtower Third Heaven & Paradise

by Listener in

a qfr in the watchtower asks ".

n what sense was the apostle paul “caught away to the third heaven” and “into paradise”?—2 cor.

they've been flip flopping regarding this, stating that it is paul talking about himself to paul talking about the congregation and back again to paul talking about himself.it appears that three years ago david splane gave a talk during the convention explaining their latest ideas and it has taken all this time for it to get into print.

OnTheWayOut

It is sad that so many "geeks" will waste their time learning to speak Klingon. I wish Star Trek had put the Navajo language into their Klingons and then a dead language would have been revived.

I feel similarly now with complicated doctrines from the Bible, including but not limited to Jehovah's Witnesses.

Enjoy this stuff if you must. I will tackle understanding things that actually add up to something.

Sorry to flame this thread. Go back to what you were doing.