Posts by OnTheWayOut

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If the Bible is truly the word of God then why are their so many different Translations ?

by smiddy3 in

not only are their different translations from different denominations ,like the greek orthodox ,russian orthodox ,roman catholic .various protestant versions and others as well as the nwt of jw`s.. however various denominations print different versions of the bible which fair enough may only be minor differences yet at the same time they are differences to what they previously printed .?.

and some have serious discrepancies .. as if they are trying to get to the true meaning of what god or jesus christ actually said or meant ?.

are they for real ?

OnTheWayOut

Watchtower has said both that God protected "His Word" and that a great apostasy crept in and removed His name.

Because the words were written so long ago in times where the words literally could mean something else and the way the phrases were said could literally mean different things than would be expected, and because men edited the words later to fit their agendas (both in ancient times and in more modern times), we have the mess we have today.

The Bible is used to hate, excuse, and justify.

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The effect Crisis of Conscience has...

by pleaseresearch in

would love to read this book one day and give it to my mum and brother who are both in the organisation.. so many people i see on videos claim that this book was the nail in the coffin.

but do you know anyone where it had no effect on them?.

OnTheWayOut

There are probably plenty who read CofC but were not ready to consider it seriously. And you can bet many upper echelon members have read it.

You have to be prepared to actually consider the material, then it devastates one's faith in Watchtower. Similar with pedophile news reports.

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Those awkward magazines

by Addison0998 in

i’m sure we all remember those really weird, awkward magazines we were expected to place in service.

and it was before we are had the website or the thing on the back to fall back on.

imagine being a 12 year old girl, and having to place magazines on god’s view of pornography, sex, homosexuality.

OnTheWayOut

I never did magazine distribution as a kid. But as an adult, if I did not care for the subject matter, I highlighted the other magazine (Awake! vs. Watchtower) or some other article within. I typically focused on positive nature stuff from Awake!

But the term, "Those awkward magazines" really makes me think of articles that Watchtower corporation printed and now the articles are glaring reminders of their lies, contradictions, changes.

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What Is Your Opinion Of Melania Trump?

by minimus in

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friends

i think she’s very intelligent and dignified.

plus, in my humble opinion, i rate her as the most attractive first lady ever..

OnTheWayOut

She speaks simple and straightforward. I don't think she is dumb, but as far as 'most attractive ever,' I have to go with Abigail Adams who never had cosmetic surgery of any kind.

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Watchtower attempts 997 mind trick segue to 1914

by Darth FayDehr in

fancy a mind trick?

here’s 2 for the price of 1; if you only want watchtower’s trick, skip to the next paragraph.

you may need to write this down or use a calculator:.

OnTheWayOut

I debated which name you would not guess, but ultimately wrote "Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz."

I will not bother with the Watchtower Biblical gymnastics, but your point is well received. They baffle with bullshit, and the average baffled member assumes they are brilliant.

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Belief in God

by jdash in

when did you guys start to doubt your faith in god?'.

what made you doubt your faith in god?.

thanks !.

OnTheWayOut

I got up the nerve to google "Jehovah's Witnesses" and was enlightened as I followed all links in all directions.

As the lies about "the truth" came out, I assumed that "Christendom" would prove to be right and God existed.

After assuring myself that Watchtower was a dangerous mind-control cult, I wanted to know about the book they used to get their doctrine- the Bible. So my research expanded to history of and origins of the Bible and various Jesus theories. One fact stood out to me that made me look more- no group of Jews or anybody else ever actually lived under "the law" found in the Bible. True fact. (But I am telling you- not proving to you. I truly believe all people need to go on their own spiritual journey.)

I started including science in my study. The impossibility of the worldwide flood was fascinating. and THE BIBLE UNEARTHED (hxxps://www.amazon.com/Bible-Unearthed-Archaeologys-Vision-Ancient/dp/0684869136) was huge in helping me.

I took a couple of turns here and there. I added eastern thought to my studies and loved the philosophies. But I saw how the myths were similar. I really enjoyed videos on secrets of the Bible and books by atheists.

One huge factor for me was the philosophy found in THE BROTHERS KARAMAZOV (hxxps://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Karamazov-Fyodor-Dostoevsky/dp/0374528373)
The price God has us pay is too high. Looking at that along with the Haiti earthquake and the Indonesian Tsunami that took roughly 100,000 children away from their parents, I was confirmed as an atheist.

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King of The North: circular news top?

by Gorbatchov in

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friends

friends,.

with the circular speading of my satire tread about the annual meeting on many different ways, even informal across the jw organization, i'm pretty sure that the news about russia (new king of the north) is not real.. there was a moment i thought that it was a coïncidence that incoming messages mentioned it also.. now i suppose it started all with my op, went trending through the organization (even through bethel belgium) and became a story on it's own.. this is not realy my style and i'm not proud of it.. g..

OnTheWayOut

Don't know if you all got this. "Johnny the Bethelite" has the reaction of JW's to the news that Russia is the King of the North-

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2175774472435047&set=a.178896675456180&type=3&theater

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John Ceder used my satire about annual meeting for real

by Gorbatchov in

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sorry guys,.

the gorby satire fake report of the annual meeting with the coincidence about russia, is used for real in john cedars yt channel.. please concider it for well prepared satire.. and not much more.. g..

OnTheWayOut

....oh, once again I read "It's not my fault." At least Lloyd is consistent at passing on blame.

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John Ceder used my satire about annual meeting for real

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

sorry guys,.

the gorby satire fake report of the annual meeting with the coincidence about russia, is used for real in john cedars yt channel.. please concider it for well prepared satire.. and not much more.. g..

OnTheWayOut

Gorby, like his books, you have to pay Lloyd for him to honor your material by publishing it with his stuff (or youtubing it.)

You retroactively owe money. Lloyd is trying to be the first ex-JW to live entirely on ex-JW income. Don't cheat him.

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Disaster Relief Funds

by StephaneLaliberte in

if the need for relief is beyond what the congregations in the area can provide, the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses arranges to supply what is needed.

[...] since the work is performed by unpaid volunteers, the funds that are allocated go toward actual relief, not administrative expenses.

- jw site.

OnTheWayOut

"tree removal crews", under direction of the branch(es).

Ha. I imagined the tree branches directing the workers.

Seriously, despite most everything being done by local brothers, I still bet they readca letter about donating for relief in congregations across the country.