Posts by OnTheWayOut

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What Do You Think Will Be The Next Big Change In The Watchtower?

by minimus in

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friends

i think there will be a change in the 144000 belief.

too many witnesses think they have a heavenly hope.

maybe 1914 will be discarded too.. what is your watchtower prediction?

OnTheWayOut

Take your food trash with you when you leave assemblies, bring your own toilet paper, soap and towels. Hell, how about bringing back the coin-operated doors for washrooms? Maybe an automated credit card gate to leave the parking lot. Maybe empty auditoriums without carpet or chairs where you bring your own folding chairs. Suggested donation amounts for borrowing their folding chairs. The speakers at assemblies have to pay for the privilege of speaking.

Watchtower will start doing everyone's taxes for free, and you will be marked if you don't use them. (.....and we know why they wanna do your taxes.)

And not in my lifetime, but soon after- more than the one overlap to the generation.

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The End of World War 1 was Exactly 100 Years Ago

by ILoveTTATT2 in

jw
friends

it is so amazing that the end of wwi was signed exactly 100 years ago!

and in just a few more hours, at 11:00am on 11 november 2018, paris time, the combat actually stopped!

(the war wasn´t officially over until 1919).it is such a historic moment, for the entire world, but also for jw´s, and for exjw´s.for almost the entire length of the war, the witnesses thought that the war was the prelude to armageddon.

OnTheWayOut

Yes, the Bible Students (not JW's yet) were told not that 1914 was the beginning of some long end-time, but rather that it was the end. And barring some last-minute "new light" that it was to be the start of Armageddon or a great tribulation, they expected the world war to develop into the great war of Satan vs. Jehovah.

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Why is the watchtower tight fisted

by pepperheart in

why when i can get many books and magazines sent through the post from many other cults does the watchtower make a big fuss about a little 16 page magazine.

OnTheWayOut

Watchtower was accustomed to making money from most literature placements, so the thought of free mail-outs is just too much for them.

They are probably right in that mail-outs won't lead to much money.

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The Biggest Issue Is Not Guns—It Is Mental Health!

by minimus in

jw
friends

crazy people shoot up places and kill people.

take away guns and they will find knives, poison, bombs , etc.. seriously, there are a lot of mentally unhealthy people!

they need professional long term help..

OnTheWayOut

I could go on a tangent about funding mental health issues.
But on the subject at hand, you have been provided some great answers.

Guns are easy to obtain in the USA and easy to go on a rampage with. Multiple victims with a knife-wielding assailant are rare because 1) it's hard to do and 2) the person will probably be stopped before it becomes multiple victims.

I am not against reasonable gun ownership for people who are capable responsible people. Screen them. Tax their license like they tax our gasoline or my kayak use on Illinois waters and use the money to provide them with mandatory training. And set reasonable limits on what people can own. Otherwise, why can't I drive a tank with a cannon and carry a grenade launcher?

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Keeping Track Of The Brothers During The Great Tribulation

by new boy in

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friends

i couldn’t help but watch the “bunker video “again.

i learned that once they are in the bunkers they will need to get the attendance numbers from the different groups that are in hiding during the “great tribulation.” chris and wife risked their lives going to the different groups and getting the numbers and putting them on slip of paper which he then handed to brother brown.

of course these numbers would have to be kept track of so they could make a full report back to the headquarters.

OnTheWayOut

The bunker video is all nonsense as they never expect such a time to actually arrive but to remain "just around the corner."

And if it did arrive, yes- they would be paranoid about the ones not at their meeting last week going over to the dark side. They would forget that Jehovah is supposed to protect them and take it upon themselves to keep their secret handshake and/or bunker location away from "Kevin."

Imagine if they could "count their time" visiting faithful JW's in the nursing home, and could not "count their time" standing in front of a cart. That faithful elderly JW woman would be visited all day every day.

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Why don't JWs have problems with board games involving dice?

by cognisonance in

so i don't really care about these things anymore, but i was reading this article (and it's a very good one): gamified life.. in the article it mentions (without references):.

dice-based games of chance are thought to have originated with ancient divination practices involving thrown knucklebones.. .

so it's okay to play yahtzee but not okay to go trick-or-treat.

OnTheWayOut

Watchtower "demonized" things that encouraged interaction with outsiders. Birthday cake at school or the office led to normalized relations with worldly people. (Certainly, trick-or-treating did that, and Halloween is clearly an easy target to demonize.)

Board games would most likely bring JW kids and family together. No need to poison the idea.

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What Are The Differences Between JWs Born In and Converted?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i tend to think that many jws who joined the religion in their later years feel foolish or are embarrassed by their decision to become one of jehovah’s witnesses.

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i’m not embarrassed by my years “in the truth “ because i was raised from infancy to believe everything was god’s word and who are we to question jehovah and his organization?

OnTheWayOut

I tend to think that many JWs who joined the religion in their later years feel foolish or are embarrassed by their decision to become one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Well, yeah. I was exposed to it, stayed clear of it, then let it fully into my young adult life willingly.

But I figured it all out through therapy.

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TV TRAILER: ‘Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath: The Jehovah’s Witnesses' Two Hour Special Event - A&E

by MaybeSo in

tv trailer: ‘leah remini: scientology and the aftermath: the jehovah’s witnesses' two hour special event - a&e, 9pm et/pt, tues, nov 13, 2018. https://youtu.be/yzdege5im90.

didn't see a post about it yet.

will you be tuning in?

OnTheWayOut

I greatly appreciate the exposure. Having been a JW, I can say that we believed some ultra-wacky stuff too.

On the lighter side, if this causes any arguments about Lloyd, he will be the first to say in his non-apology that although he said nothing wrong, he is sorry that people are upset because of their own shortcomings.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body Member Stephen Lett explains "Doing it"

by Not_Culty in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7yrcya_ym8.

OnTheWayOut

When I click on the video, and any of John Cedars' videos, it says "This video requires payment to watch."

So forget about it.

Editing to add:

Oh, now it's working. Not a Cedars video. Well, okay.

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Bible's flaws

by LostAdam in

what are some flaws of the bible that convince you that its not god's word.

for example what about prophecies like babylon or prophecies about jesus birth and life that jw use to make you believe bible is god originated?

i'd appreciate your comments.

OnTheWayOut

The impossible FLOOD
Chronology vs. archaeology
The whole idea of live sacrifice
Silly rules about food and land and boiling baby goats

But mostly, God choosing a certain group of people to have insider information, deciding not to interfere with people figuring out they need to choose proper worship, but interfering all the time like at Babel, the flood, various battles.